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Originally posted by Noviz
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
Originally posted by Noviz
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
What I'm trying to say is that even if currencies fall, it doesn't mean no one will ever again have any way of trade or entitlement to what they are used to.... and even if it DID get THAT bad where everything just STOPPED, there's actually food all over the place. some of it might not be to your tastes though, but there is a wealth of nutrition all over the place. Take grass for example. I'm learning to do sprouting of seeds right now. You can do that inside, don't even need a yard. You'll have some of the worlds most nutritious food in 3-5 days. The chinese are famous for their sprouts. maybe you should ask all those Chinese people who have lived on the brink of starvation off of next to nothing how to survive if YOU think YOU can not. Don't be so sure about everyone else.
There's a perfect system all around you, but some just insist on maintaining an inferior illusion. What has been built was built for a reason and it was built to completely collapse.
Oh no I am sure you can grow a good amount of food in the home... and yes there is a vast amount of food around.
But if millions of people all need food it'll go VERY quicky. Lets say you can live on one meal a day. 10 million people who need that. 10 million meals a day, 70 million meals a week. As you can see that is a lot of food and there will be a lot more than 10 million people looking for food. Just because it looks like we have a lot of food it doesn't mean it lasts long when everyone gets hungry.
Why would people all of the sudden start eating more than they already do?
why would the ground be any less capable of growing food than it is now?
The dirt doesn't give a DAMN what the dollar does. I hate to tell you this but you came from dirt, not money.
What on earth are you talking about? I never said people will suddenly start eating more than they do now. I was trying to show that if people eat one meal a day then that is a heck lot of food to be shared around. I was basically saying if there was social collapse food would not be produced for a while and it will therefore run out very quickly. The mass majority don't know how to do sprouting and will have no chance when all obvious sources of food run out.
I think you kinda misunderstood what I was trying to say.
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
There is absolutely no reason that food cannot be produced if there is a collapse of the current world financial system. No I did not misunderstand. I simply do not see what the point of sitting around with your thumbs up your butt if you don't have a job anymore. How can you say you are fit to live on this planet as a human if you have zero gumption to grow your own food on it?
You don't know how you do sprouting? You soak em. they get dry, you put more water on them. They sprout.
Any questions?
Originally posted by Noviz
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
There is absolutely no reason that food cannot be produced if there is a collapse of the current world financial system. No I did not misunderstand. I simply do not see what the point of sitting around with your thumbs up your butt if you don't have a job anymore. How can you say you are fit to live on this planet as a human if you have zero gumption to grow your own food on it?
You don't know how you do sprouting? You soak em. they get dry, you put more water on them. They sprout.
Any questions?
I didn't say I DIDNT KNOW how to do sprouting. I said the mass majority won't. It may seem trivial to you but many don't know the first thing about growing their own food. The majority rely on food produced for them and wouldn't know how to grow a potato. I think you give people way too much credit. Those that rely on fast food and processed stuff will have a very hard time to survive if there is social collapse. And for those people it will end in violence fighting over the food that is left.edit on 8-8-2011 by Noviz because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by guessing
reply to post by ChaosMagician
everyone has got what they have.
sprouts don't taste that good anyway
but you have a very , very good point
Originally posted by torsion
For those of you who think this is a new thing and a sign of the end times, look at this -
List of riots
These things happen. This will die down after a few more copycat incidents then it will be forgotten like those on the link above.
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
Originally posted by Noviz
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
There is absolutely no reason that food cannot be produced if there is a collapse of the current world financial system. No I did not misunderstand. I simply do not see what the point of sitting around with your thumbs up your butt if you don't have a job anymore. How can you say you are fit to live on this planet as a human if you have zero gumption to grow your own food on it?
You don't know how you do sprouting? You soak em. they get dry, you put more water on them. They sprout.
Any questions?
I didn't say I DIDNT KNOW how to do sprouting. I said the mass majority won't. It may seem trivial to you but many don't know the first thing about growing their own food. The majority rely on food produced for them and wouldn't know how to grow a potato. I think you give people way too much credit. Those that rely on fast food and processed stuff will have a very hard time to survive if there is social collapse. And for those people it will end in violence fighting over the food that is left.edit on 8-8-2011 by Noviz because: (no reason given)
You just don't get it. The vast majority do not know how to grow their own food.... which is why I said something.
It's not that complicated, freaking grass grows by itself. They will have to figure it out. I'm sorry ok... they will have to FIGURE OUT HOW TO FEED THEMSELVES.
Sorry, but I'm tired and this is getting very frustrating. The signs are all there.
This is the system we built. This is the sum of the equation. Once that part is established, we can move forward.
I don't know what else you could possibly expect other than just keep trying to shuffle around the fact that some have way more than what they should.