I agree with the Inuit people , The sun is definetly moving over a different path in the sky . See M

Originally posted by bourbon2nite
There are far too many people noticing the more northerly sunset. Question is , since its pretty much established the sun has not changed WHY are we noticing?

Well, there are two main possibilities:

1) People are seeing a sort of optical illusion due to pollution, atmospheric warming, cosmic goo, or some other as-yet-unproven factor.

2)People are basing their claims on a false memory of where it used to set, or are merely forgetting that the sun sets higher in the North in the summer.

It seems completely absurd...but I've noticed a change as well.
It defies common sense, but I look at the sky, specifically the position of the sun, and I feel like it's not right.
Can I explain it? Absolutely not.
Do the reasonable answers and evidence convince me? Nope, I still feel like something is off.
Knowing that others have been feeling like myself is validating. I feel less out there.
S&F

Im sorry but as a farm boy, at least where I lived it has changed. I used to roam the woods and fields and explore and always used the sun for time and direction. Our swings were in the shade in the afternoon and would not be now. My mothers patio did not have direct sunlight in the afternoon and does now. The old farm house on the hill that the sun set behind has not moved. There has to be a reason, but bad memory at least in my case is not it.

Originally posted by ZIPMATT

Originally posted by DriftingAway
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If the sun stayed in place for an extra day, the earth would have stopped rotating.

Had the earth done the impossible and suddenly stopped rotating, all the people on the surface would continue to travel eastward at speeds up to 1000 miles per hour and go flying. Those near the equator would have traveled the fastest. The only people that would have survived would have lived at the frozen poles.

"Would not a sudden stop by the earth , rotating at over 100 miles an hour at its equator, mean a complete destructionof the world ? Since the world survived, there must have been a mecghanism to cushion tye slowing down of terrestrial rotation , if it really occureed, or another escape for the energy of motion besides transformation to heat, or both . Or if rotation persisted undisturbed, the terrestrial axis may have tilted in the presence of a strong magnetic field , so theat the sun appeared to lose its diurnal movement. These problems are kept in sight and are faced in the epilogue of this volume " - from "Worlds In Collision" Immanuel Velikovsky

Questions answered here : "Or if rotation persisted undisturbed, the terrestial axis may have tilted in the presence of a strong magnetic field , so that the sun appeared to lose its diurnal movement "

I think its less of a sudden tide than you anticipate. Velikovsky clearly felt the 'presence of a strong magnetic field' was a possible explanation . I am inclined to agree , the argument carries weight and i will contribute towards it . What is your take on the 'presence'

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We've had this pool for several years. It has always been a topic for discussion because 'somebody' (who shall remain nameless) decided it should sit on the far side of the yard practically underneath a forest, instead of putting it in the middle of the yard to get the best sun (where I wanted it to go). So, I pay attention to where the sun is and what time it is, so I can remind 'somebody' fairly often that I was right

Could it be due to the trees growing? I don't know. I'm sure they grow every year, but this is the first year I noticed something different.

Originally posted by iTzKeMuSaBi
I understand this post is about the suns path being seemingly different. I have not really noticed the suns path related to the earth. I have however, noticed something is up with the moon's orbit. Some nights here in Oklahoma, I do not see the moon at all It seems to happen a few times a month. It even happened 2 nights in a row. I cannot recall not seeing the moon at all any night, up until a few weeks ago. I have even seen a full moon 3 nights in row recently.

The moon goes through cycles. You cant see it when it is `new`for about 3-5 days. Also, the moon comes up an hour later every day. When it is full, it comes up at about sunset, and an hour later each day after that until it is `new`and blocked from view due to its proximity to the sun. This is all quite basic astronomy. How anyone could have starred your posts blows my mind, even for ATS standards.

Scientists have said that the earths axis shifted during the Haiti, Japan, and Chili earthquakes. Japan's earthquake alone shortened our day by 6.8 microseconds. I presume these axis shifts are the culprit of whats occuring. I just hope this doesn't effect our orbit around the sun.

The teeny, tiny amount that these earthquakes shifted the axis of the planet would be imperceptabe in relation to the orbit of heavenly bodies.

Yup, I would agree the sun is not setting right where it's suppose to, also down here in PNG aswell.

I live on the hilltops, facing west and I enjoy the sunset every afternoon.

Over the years I have also noticed the sun setting rather more South-Westley than it's usually westley setting.

I don't know as why this has occurred other than based the reason behind, physicists. Michio Kaku's explanation of the earth tilting as a result of the major earthquakes in Chile and than Japan recently.

Here's a video where he explains the tilt as a result of the recent earthquakes.



Peace

Originally posted by InnerPeace2012


I don't know as why this has occurred other than based the reason behind, physicists. Michio Kaku's explanation of the earth tilting as a result of the major earthquakes in Chile and than Japan recently.

edit on 28-7-2011 by InnerPeace2012 because: (no reason given)

The teeny tiny amount of `shift`from those earthquakes would most certainly not be enough to account for the claims made in this thread, and the claims made by the Ìnuit`the title refers to were made years before the Japanese quake.

Originally posted by InnerPeace2012


I don't know as why this has occurred other than based the reason behind, physicists. Michio Kaku's explanation of the earth tilting as a result of the major earthquakes in Chile and than Japan recently.

Here's a video where he explains the tilt as a result of the recent earthquakes.

Did you actually listen to what Michio had to say ? I realise that the ditzy newswoman confused the subject matter but he did not give any scientific explanation for the huge discrepancies discussed by other posters, or your own experience for that matter.

I have noticed the sun higher and setting more in the north west higher towards the north this year. My room faces the west and the sun is way North now more than usual. Does anybody have DISH EARTH. I have noticed a large change in the amount of sun in the north and less in the south.

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I'm no professional in the area of physics, but from observation, the sun is not setting at it's usual location like others have stated.

Like I mentioned, I don't know for certain why the sun sets in such manner, but I'm leaning towards the "tilting as a result of earthquakes", but I could be wrong.

If logic serves me correctly, should the tilting of the earth cause a difference in the way the sun sets, just my 2 cents.

Nonetheless, my observation are as I have stated.

Whew I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed. The front of my house faces east, and comes over my neighbors chimney. but the other morning I was up with the sun, and noticed that the sun was coming up behind their big oak tree instead. which facing it is on the left side of their yard. so the house is laid out like so : Tree, left side of house, front door, right side with chimney, and garage. with probably about 20-25 feet from tree to chimney. I have seen many sunrises during the change of the seasons, and the sun never moves that much from over the chimney.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by InnerPeace2012


I don't know as why this has occurred other than based the reason behind, physicists. Michio Kaku's explanation of the earth tilting as a result of the major earthquakes in Chile and than Japan recently.

edit on 28-7-2011 by InnerPeace2012 because: (no reason given)

The teeny tiny amount of `shift`from those earthquakes would most certainly not be enough to account for the claims made in this thread, and the claims made by the Ìnuit`the title refers to were made years before the Japanese quake.

No I'm not saying for certain that it is a result of this that is causing the Sun not setting correctly...
However I'm leaning towards the tilting as a reason behind my observation...

That's just my observations

Peace

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According to some you and I and others noticing this are out of our minds. I would like they dont want to believe that so many of us are noticing this.

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I'm wondering if its not the sun or the earth that's shifted, but in fact the continents. I know this sounds like right out of 2012, and I'm trying really hard not to fear monger.. but could that really be a possibility? maybe not on the scale as presented in the movie, but just a little?

Originally posted by bourbon2nite
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According to some you and I and others noticing this are out of our minds. I would like they dont want to believe that so many of us are noticing this.

Perhaps they should pay more attention to nature than technology...

Peace

Originally posted by Kingbreaker
reply to post by InnerPeace2012

 

I'm wondering if its not the sun or the earth that's shifted, but in fact the continents. I know this sounds like right out of 2012, and I'm trying really hard not to fear monger.. but could that really be a possibility? maybe not on the scale as presented in the movie, but just a little?

I don't know for certain but who's knows why the reason behind this.

You couldn't be far fetched with your theory, the way things are happening lately...

Peace

This is interesting someone mentioned a "DISH".

Because the absurd notion of the Earth shifted, continents shifted etc. would also mean that all Satellites would need to be re-positioned etc..

In other words, if there was really a "shift" as you say "tend towards to believe" there should also have been major outages of TV/internet, GPS, air traffic etc. due to geostationary satellites no positioned right anymore...let alone other VERY obvious signs.

Originally posted by Misterlondon
It's good yourself and your father notice things in the world.. But common sense tells me that if the sun had changed position, this couldn't be hidden from the public.. It would be big news and wouldn't be broken to the world by a couple of guys in their back garden in Scotland..(no offence to you)
Alot of people still use the sun alot in their daily lives eg farmers.. Someone would have noticed this a long time ago..

And also what do you mean the elite derroying our planet? They may have control over money, media governments etc.. But the sun is one thing they will never control..

No, someone wouldn't have noticed long ago because it is something recent. I have noticed it in the last few weeks. The sun used to always cast a shadow on the back of my house, now it does not. Others have brought it up without me mentioning my own thoughts and perceptions.

Originally posted by InnerPeace2012

If logic serves me correctly, should the tilting of the earth cause a difference in the way the sun sets, just my 2 cents.

I am no expert either but the effect such quakes have on the position of the setting sun should be next to negligible to you or I. The anecdotal evidence presented by many of the posters on this thread suggest a massive aberration- this is not supported by anything Michio Kaku discussed.