Beijing develops pulse weapons

Originally posted by zookey
So the US can have HAARP and more but we cannot have EMP.

US has nuclear power and weapons but we cannot have nuclear power or weapons.

I can go on and on about the hyprocricy and double standards.

Let's be very clear, the US has detonated 2 (TWO) NUCLEAR weapons in anger, in another country plus uses DEPLETED URANIUM weapons in other countries daily by the Metric TONNE daily.

But we cannot use such weapons, right?

For all we know (and is speculated) that the US uses low yield weapons today.

Seriously, while you maybe able to blow smoke and hot air up american's jacksies, you cannot blow it up ours.

edit on 23-7-2011 by zookey because: (no reason given)

Detonated them in anger?

I believe it was a horrible and calculated decision to stop even more death.

Now, if the first bomb we had dropped on Japan was a nuke after Pearl Harbor - THAT would have been out of anger!

Originally posted by TheOneYouFearIsRight
reply to post by hp1229

 

I don't feel it gives ownership, but then again... I am not woed 2 trillion dollars!

China is an empire. For an empire to progress it must grow. Wouldn't be that much of a leap for them to decide to attack the united states in the event of a default.

Attack and then do what?

The TPTB will not let it happen since Chinese banks are not controlled by International Banking Cartel

Don't forget EMP works only on powered devices. Its not that far fetched to find farmers with their combines unpowered or otherwise not on. Though immediate production will slow down, food production can and will continue. Its not like EMP will slay the cattle or the crops.

As for the rest, most cities will evacuate as urban transportation fails. While there will be death and panic, I suspect that most folk will end up figuring out that they have to go and gathering outside the cities. Technology that was unpowered at the EMP blast will still work. its not a lasting effect.

Those of use with post-apocalyptic skills will still be able to do what we need. Hunters will still hunt food. the US may take a step back for a while, but there is nothing here that can't be rebuilt and improved.

What could that do to our nuclear arsenal? Aren't those electronic devices that are powered up?

That is such a poor argument.. America is far from perfect but we have helped out so many countries when they needed help. You hate us when we help, and hate us when we don't want to.. being the so called "big brother" to the world it's hard being in this position.. IMO if America stayed out of all the worlds drama and concentrated on our own you would be sorry.. you can argue that point all you want but you know it's true. Stop bashing America because even though I don't know where you're from i'm 200% sure you are probably worse off than we are.

Lol,you think i was arguing from my post? it was only a statement of my opinion.

America is far from perfect,like most if not all countrys,i agree.
Its the government that gives you that image,i see america as a terrorist country,your government are terrorists,your military are terrorists,like most if not all western allies.

And yes i can argue your point that if america stayed out of everyone elses buisness we would be sorry.What examples can you use that america has saved another western allies bacon?

And please dont use the wars that america created,"war on terrorism"(includes all wars in the middle east),WW1 and WW2.Even if them wars were legit and justifyed(which they arent).Excluding them two examples what else have you got to say that america has done for the benefit of another western allie,or any other country for that matter?

Ill be waiting for a response from you,but i doubt you will be able to produce anything because there isnt anything to produce.

But go on,give it a crack and try to prove me wrong.

Cheers

Originally posted by BillyBoBBizWorth

That is such a poor argument.. America is far from perfect but we have helped out so many countries when they needed help. You hate us when we help, and hate us when we don't want to.. being the so called "big brother" to the world it's hard being in this position.. IMO if America stayed out of all the worlds drama and concentrated on our own you would be sorry.. you can argue that point all you want but you know it's true. Stop bashing America because even though I don't know where you're from i'm 200% sure you are probably worse off than we are.

Lol,you think i was arguing from my post? it was only a statement of my opinion.

America is far from perfect,like most if not all countrys,i agree.
Its the government that gives you that image,i see america as a terrorist country,your government are terrorists,your military are terrorists,like most if not all western allies.

And yes i can argue your point that if america stayed out of everyone elses buisness we would be sorry.What examples can you use that america has saved another western allies bacon?

And please dont use the wars that america created,"war on terrorism"(includes all wars in the middle east),WW1 and WW2.Even if them wars were legit and justifyed(which they arent).Excluding them two examples what else have you got to say that america has done for the benefit of another western allie,or any other country for that matter?

Ill be waiting for a response from you,but i doubt you will be able to produce anything because there isnt anything to produce.

But go on,give it a crack and try to prove me wrong.

Cheers

edit on 29-7-2011 by BillyBoBBizWorth because: (no reason given)

Wait, you are asking when America saved someone? Then you say we can't use WWI, WWII, the War on Terror?

Are you serious?

Ok... Kosovo.

There, we saved bacon.

Want more? Or aren't we allowed to cite them?

Want more? Or aren't we allowed to cite them?

Sure you can,but not conflicts that has been shown that amercia created.

Simple fact is,america is a terrorist country and influences other countrys,mainly allies of america,to participate in illegal actions on a global scale.

Other countrys make weapons,america doesnt like it,but its alright for america to build weapons.thats called double standards.

reply to post by MagoSA


I think thats a false assumption about what would happen. The power centres of government order are the cities. What would happen is that the authorities would use the military to impose order on the cities (or at least a subset) and use the military to divert resources from the countryside to the cities and the military/police to keep the centres of power under control.

People will be starving in the rural areas as the national distribution system dries up.

If you refuse to contribute you will be crushed by superior firepower in the name of the public good.

Could the wide release of China having a pulse weapon be the perfect situation to cause a false-flag in the United States?

(ie, an "attack" on us with an EMP)

why tell us now?
becouse if TPTB use them on usa.
then can say china did it!!!

and defencive wepons work best.
when the enemy knows about it,

Originally posted by mileysubet

Originally posted by Kokatsi
BTW aren't all HAARP-type weapons capable of blasting out EMP?
I think so, and then not only China, but several other countries - including even Norway - have experimented with it.

I think you should study up a little on what HAARP can and cant do. Here I can help you get started: www.haarp.alaska.edu...

I have studied their page many times - and also read Begich's book a decade ago. There is an obvious contradiction.

Quote from the HAARP web site FAQ:

"Can HAARP be used for military purposes?
HAARP is not designed to be an operational system for military purposes. The HAARP specifications were developed by a consortium of universities to meet the requirements for a world-class research facility and an expanded group of universities are playing a major role in the design of future research efforts.

The HAARP facility will be used for basic and applied plasma physics and Radio Science research related to the study of the Earth's ionosphere. Because the DoD operates numerous communication and navigation systems whose signals either depend on reflection from the ionosphere or must pass through the ionosphere to satellites, there is obvious DoD interest in understanding the ionosphere's effect on these systems to improve their reliability and performance. A greater understanding of the physics of the ionosphere is expected to result in improvements to commercial applications, such as GPS and LEO communication satellites whose performance is often significantly affected by random ionospheric variations.

Administratively, HAARP is restricted to operate only on a "not-to-interfere-basis" (NIB) by the NTIA and is categorized as an experimental station (XR) in the NTIA spectrum certification document."

End quote

However, it is still possible that they are doing the research part and other DoD facilities - not public - already use EM technology actively. If that is true, and if you know more about this, I would welcome your clarification of the issue. Then this info could be brought in any time someone mentions the facility here.

If you now more about this tech you probably know about the existence of similar facitilies in other countries.

When I worked for the US Army briefly, I saw some classifed tech that was only admitted years afterwards publicly. I will not tell you what it is because I signed a secrecy agreement.
However, I can tell you it was not EM tech. In fact, our foreign cell phones did not work inside the Army camp.

This was somewhere in Europe.

EMP weapons, very basic and not that hard to make
See " flux compression bomb " now I'm not sure about
chinas pulse weapon and it's power/range but most of the
Other countries that have any type of modern tech that is
crucial to keep one step ahead of an emp blast has there
hardware hardened to limit the effects and retaliate back.

IMO scaler weapons are far more advanced and these are
far more deadly than emp provided it's not just a by product
Of a nuclear weapon.
it's not the military hardware that is the problem with emp as
there toys are shielded, it's our infrastructure that is venerable
Like say hospital equipment, petrol cars, and computers in the
Public domain. I do think a lot of this is just fear mongering.
both EMP weapons and scaler weapons have been around for
some time. Why has this threat just hit the headlines?
What is the point? china just flexing it's muscles? Strange.
It's not like we don't know about the tech.
It's old tech! ok it may have been improved but why the big deal
all of a sudden?
Solar flares can and may have 1st strike with little warning then we
could be in trouble! just my two peneth on the topic.