ELEnin Disinformation Coverup by NASA Now Apparent

reply to post by Gloster


You beat me to it!

Other line i suppose.

reply to post by Dystopiaphiliac


Hahaha good post!!

All of this speculation based on the display resolution of a comet tracking program? Dude, maybe there was a bandwidth problem that day.

The only thing the segmented line tells me is that there is a memory problem or something that is preventing the line from being rendered a smooth curve - that's ALL. You saw it rendered poorly one day and properly another. That for you is a big conspiracy? Wow.

if you turn around to see and stop to think dont you feel stupid?

34000 children die every day only in Africa

Originally posted by Gloster
if you turn around to see and stop to think dont you feel stupid?

34000 children die every day only in Africa

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it is also very likely they have not got any idea of this comet.

Was the extinction of the dinosaurs really caused by an asteroid?

Now that we know that our climate data, from 60 million years ago on back, is worthless because we have no idea how close we were to the sun at anytime prior to 60 million years ago (because of the

recently discovered chaotic gravitational effect of two giant asteroids in the asteroid belt) can we still say it was an asteroid that killed the great non reptiles off?

This is where this stream of thought starts to become particularly disturbing.

If it was NOT an asteroid that did in the dinosaurs, then could it have been our proximity to the sun?

If that WAS the cause of the great die off of the dinosaurs, what does that say about our future?

As the earth the heats up, could be already be in for the same catastrophe that killed them?

Consider -

Global implementation of global warming policies by governments has lagged to the point of absurdity, that is, unless they are already aware of what is in store for us. If they are, if they have been for some

time, certain government actions begin to make a hell of a lot more sense.

For instance, our response over the last decade to the 9/11 terrorist attacks has been, in many ways, odd.

Hundreds of thousands of radiation detectors have been distributed to police, fire and emergency agencies here in the US and in other countries the world over. These devices, though they certainly could

and will be used to detect radiological threats to population, military and commercial centers, they have very little chance of actually catching a threat before it can be carried out.

What they would excel at, however, is measuring ambient radiation increases from the sun.

Also, the various FEMA and homeland security coordination centers that have been set up in every state, although seemingly useful for the identification and coordination against terrorist plots and cells, they

would also be practically CUSTOM designed for this solar apocalypse scenario.

Here is a link to one of the articles about the study I referenced...I look forward to comments!

www.physorg.com...

I wish I have been keeping screen-caps. I do believe that I have been seeing the rounded curves on the java applet since June. I can not say for sure. I began to notice the difference when I was seeing the older videos with JPL screen-caps in them.

There is one thing that I did notice between the two images in the OP besides the lack of curved lines. Is the fact that Comet itself is not even on the plotted course. I am not sure what to tell you. It could be a number of things. A java error in your browser. IE FireFox, Chrome all render differently. Even different versions of IE render pages differently. There could be a number of reason given for the lack of a curved line and yes it could be a cover up.

But if it is an ELE then what can you do? Absolutely nothing, make your peace with God(that is if you believe in Him a topic for another thread) and spend as much time with your loved ones. There is no way provisions can be made for an event such as this. You can only prolong the inevitable..death. If TPTB aren't protecting you now do you think they will change their minds after the worst is over?

Are you hoping that they will change their minds and say "hey we should tell everyone" or "come stay with us" not a chance. I no longer fear death, instead of putting faith in myself or man, I have put my faith in a higher power. So until the end my friends live your life, love your family and God speed.

Originally posted by DaRAGE
LOL So if elenin is a brown dwarf were fraked to a cold existance in the outter edges of the system in an eliptical orbit. We'd all be dead by the gravitational pull.

I think it's just a load of bullocks if u ask me. We'd definately be feeling and seeing some gravitational effects by now.

We ARE.

Originally posted by DaRAGE
Elenin = brown dwarf = We'd sure as hell know by now.

Not necessarily.

I'm just glad to have confirmation on the Beatles breakup theory (the P.S. in the OP)! But in keeping with the conspiracy theme, didn't you mean "Faul"?

Originally posted by saturnus1962
reply to post by truthseekr1111

 

Otto Matic???? really??? you believe that is a real name??? Coincidently pronounced as "automatic""??

No, i never said or believed it was a real name of a person.

if thats what you believe, then you have zero critical thinking skills.

Now, do you believe its a coincidence (in context of all the other coincidence you failed to address), that the producer of the elenin orbit diagram is named OTTO MATIC and that the company that DESIGNS CGI type software is OTTO MATIC and just happens to have a major game program dealing with PLANETX, and containing unique references surrounding the ELENIN conspiracy theory thats been going on? en.wikipedia.org...

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OK...you got my attention with the ludicrous Otto Matic but my question, because I'm not quite as facile with the numbers as you are, is, what is J311. What does this signify? When did it first appear? Who coined it?...NASA, JPL or Otto Matic? How is it derived?

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Or, like I said, I could just feed it into a simulator.

Did you know that a simulator is just as real as reality with the right data?

I mean surely a man with your own proudly advertised background should know that.

Well, that was a big waste of time. Once again ANOTHER conspiracy based on ridiculous assumptions. *Sigh* is there any conspiracy on here that has enough evidence to actually be sound?

Originally posted by Mogget"Otto Matic", that is not a real name. Can't you guess what it actually means......?

Congratulations to the bright kid at the back! It actually stands for "Automatic", which means that the calculations were automatically made by the computer

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Oh right, of course, now that NASA does it, phonetic word codes and games are allowed because they're so professional and transparent when making such important diagrams for the public to measure and understand or learn from. Sorry, but the reference is clear to any rational thinking person and doesn't stand for Automatic. In fact, the producer of the diagram has the exact spelling of the game programmer that coincidently is a programmer of a cgi planetx space game.

oh brotha you people are in such denial and not too bright. I think the kid in the back has a dunce hat on.

Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by truthseekr1111

 

OK...you got my attention with the ludicrous Otto Matic but my question, because I'm not quite as facile with the numbers as you are, is, what is J311. What does this signify? When did it first appear? Who coined it?...NASA, JPL or Otto Matic? How is it derived?

what do you mean?

i admit i DON'T know why its there etc.

I'm only pointing out the anomaly of it being there...kinda strange dontcha think? so ya, I can't prove its more than a coincidence, however when taken in context with all the other references or "coincidences" programmed into the STORY of the game by the same programmer who created the Elenin Orbit diagram, you start to see a pattern appear that eerily correlates to some unique aspects and patterns/numbers/etc that are apart of the ELENIN conspiracy THEORY.

Japan - 3 11

J 3/11

Location (just happens to be a "J"and DATE 3/11 (what are the odds?) where the pattern BEGAN/APPEARED that imo was the event that started the viral interest in Elenin which i'm sure most agree has to do with the question about large mega quakes occurring during Elenin Alignments... JAPANS 3/11 Quake occurred on one of the 3 unique QUAKES in a row on or near 3 unique alleged alignments of ELENIN SUN & EARTH in a row.

what? you don't see the connection?

Originally posted by truthseekr1111
No, i never said or believed it was a real name of a person.

if thats what you believe, then you have zero critical thinking skills.

Now, do you believe its a coincidence (in context of all the other coincidence you failed to address), that the producer of the elenin orbit diagram is named OTTO MATIC and that the company that DESIGNS CGI type software is OTTO MATIC and just happens to have a major game program dealing with PLANETX, and containing unique references surrounding the ELENIN conspiracy theory thats been going on? en.wikipedia.org...

Just a slight correction. The name of the game is OTTO MATIC. The company that created the game (the developer) is called Pangea Software. The link you provided gives you this information.

For what it's worth, the subjects covered by 'conspiracy theories' are a very good source for story creation in the video game development community. Actually, anything remotely borderline sci-fi.

st.

As far as I can see, the "Otto Matic" that you kindly provide a wikipedia page for is the name of a computer game, not a games programmer.

Originally posted by MACchine
THEN I NOTICED ABOUT 5 TO 7 DAYS AGO THEY FIXED IT !!!!!!

That means that the fix showed up around July 11 and my thread in ATS headlines would have given the article high visibility July 8th to the 11th, A DIRECT RESPONSE FROM JPL to my thread.

Here is how it looks now, a nice smooth line showing comet ELEnin's path ...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a31a56ef7767.png[/atsimg]
So WHAT does this mean, WHY would they react in this way, consider the possibilities ?

You give yourself too much credit.

NASA always adjusts their images to accommodate new data. If there was an actual conspiracy, your images would have shown the same date. They don't. Your top image was created on July 6th, and the second image was created on July 17th.

Also, how many meteors (objects) move through the solar system in sharp angles? Lol... Someone may have goofed up on the original design, so they went back and made the changes. Not a big deal.

NASA didn't cover anything up. You are reading too much into this particular issue.

Note: Both images show Elenin completely missing Earth. Just as predicted.

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I'm agreeing with you! I'm as startled and amazed to see the connections as you are! I understand what the implications are and because tweakers and gamers and 'national security' have long been an equation I need to follow this through. My question is WHERE do I look to see J311?

There is a simple question each of you has to ask your self – “Who do you choose to believe?”

Maybe these guidelines will help you:

Fact: If ELENIN or any DOOM was headed our way the government would not tell us until the last minute, if at all, in order to prevent chaos and preserve order.

Fact: Based on de-classified material from the pentagon we have been at the brink of nuclear war several times other than the Cuban Missile Crisis that were concealed from the public by the government.

Fact: False flag attacks are a known and desire tactic of our and other governments of the world.

Ergo: EVERY DOOM event that comes along that has the POTENTIAL of an Extinction Level Event, a Global Nuclear War, a Complete Financial Collapse or a Solar Proton Storm MUST is considered a viable threat based on the facts stated above. To consider them a possibility (and prepare accordingly) in the current conditions seems more plausible than to write them off as mass hysteria or conspiracy.

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