Breast-feeding mother 'told to leave council headquarters because she would offend Muslim visitors

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by beezzer
A problem needs to be addressed.

And it was. What's the problem then?

That someone did it in the first place! That someone felt that cultual sensitivities trumped British law.

Originally posted by beezzer
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No. Of couse the council wouldn't state that it was policy, but the intent was to protect Islamic sensibilities.
Even when it is law that allows women to breastfeed in public.

Sensibilities = Intolerance

Originally posted by beezzer
BH, why are you assuming it wasn't muslim?

Why were they so quick to ASSUME it was? Forgive me but aren't newspapers suppose to report the news? Not make it up?

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The fact that they stoppedher in the first place should be the main focus of the story

I agree. What did you make of this, from the town of Forest Park, Atlanta:

A group of Georgia "lactivists" have successfully put the squeeze on a law restricting public breast-feeding. On Monday night, city council officials in Forest Park, Ga. voted to drop the age limit from a public indecency ordinance that previously outlawed open breast-feeding of children above age two, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports

Source: www.huffingtonpost.com...

Anti Breastfeeding law enacted in May and dropped in June...Local Councils, ay.

Originally posted by beezzer
BH, why are you assuming it wasn't muslim?

I'm not. I'm not the one making the assumptions.

They must have had a reason why they titled the article that way. Could it be the large muslim population in that area?

Sure, it COULD be. It could be sensationalistic anti-Islamic BS, since this RAG is known for it.

As quick as "we" are to jump on the islamic bandwagon *cough*, some are equally "quick" to rush to their defense.

I'm not defending ANYONE. I'm calling out a BS source. There's NO indication that this was about Muslim sensitivities. You feed this crap all the time and I find it sickening.

In doing some reading for this thread, I was surprised at how many people and places still find it uncomfortable. People need to grow up.

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Yes people do need to grow up, it should be the most natural thing in the world, not something to feel ashamed or embarrassed about. Maybe it has something to do with the sexualisation of our own societies, that a breast is equated with sex rather than the feeding of a child.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by beezzer
BH, why are you assuming it wasn't muslim?

Why were they so quick to ASSUME it was? Forgive me but aren't newspapers suppose to report the news? Not make it up?

Demograhic studies indicate a large population of people of South Asian heritage, particularly those with roots in Pakistan and Bangladesh in the Oldham area. I based my "assumption" on data.

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Thank you for your input. While I have yet to find a reason to invalidate the story based on the publication, I will keep that in mind.

Originally posted by beezzer
I based my "assumption" on data.

No, you extrapolated from that data. Chose the aspects you wanted and discarded the rest. Let's look at your data:

Foreign born 15% 8.2% 9.2%
White British 71% 86% 92%

92% of the people in that area are "White British." What was that about your data again?

Originally posted by beezzer
[Demograhic studies indicate a large population of people of South Asian heritage, particularly those with roots in Pakistan and Bangladesh in the Oldham area. I based my "assumption" on data.

According to your Wiki source:
71% of the residents of Oldham are White British people and 58% are Christian.

Only 25% are Muslim.

I would think you would assume a white Christian complained, with those statistics.

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ONLY 25%. Okay. They don't have an influence. Apologies. *cough*

sure breast feeding is better as well as natural. as for doing it in public? well......i'm of two minds. when it is done with say a blanket over the breast it doesn't bother me in the least. what DOES bother me is when a female just whips out her boob if full sight of everyone and starts feeding.

yet again it comes down to respect for others. there is absolutely nothing wrong with breast feeding in public, provided the mother does her best to not make others feel rather uncomfortable, (by say having something to cover with, it's not as if this doesn't need to be done all the time, be prepared for it). as for the mother just whipping out her boob, well she shows no respect for anyone but herself and child, and that's where i'm sure many would agree the problem is. when you respect others it's not surprising that they will also respect you.

seriously how many people would get upset if i whipped out my penis in public to take a leak? most i would suspect, in fact there are laws about it. this is also a normal, healthy thing to do, just not in public, just as a woman should not just whip out her breast in public, without out at least trying to make sure she will not offend others. makes sense to me. like i said it's all about respecting others and not just yourself.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by beezzer
BH, why are you assuming it wasn't muslim?

Why were they so quick to ASSUME it was? Forgive me but aren't newspapers suppose to report the news? Not make it up?

Demograhic studies indicate a large population of people of South Asian heritage, particularly those with roots in Pakistan and Bangladesh in the Oldham area. I based my "assumption" on data.

I live in Atlanta where according to statistics, 26% of unemployed men are white. So am I right to assume that the guy coming in to fill out an application is white? No, because it's 3 times as likely to be a black, hispanic, or asian male....

You sound like a class A muslim hater right now. The reason the counselor guy didn't address it until she complained, WAS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW IT HAPPENED UNTIL SHE COMPLAINED!! Assumptions like yours are what make certain topics on ATS complete laughing stocks. Your source is complete bull. And as far as you had to reach to invent a "problem" that needs to be "dealt with" involving sharia law, or muslims, I'm surprised you didn't pull a muscle..

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

I live in Atlanta where according to statistics, 26% of unemployed men are white. So am I right to assume that the guy coming in to fill out an application is white? No, because it's 3 times as likely to be a black, hispanic, or asian male....

You sound like a class A muslim hater right now. The reason the director guy didn't address it until she complained, WAS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW IT HAPPENED UNTIL SHE COMPLAINED!! Assumptions like yours are what make certain topics on ATS complete laughing stocks. Your source is complete bull. And as far as you had to reach to invent a "problem" that needs to be "dealt with" involving sharia law, or muslims, I'm surprised you didn't pull a muscle..

Thank you for your valuable input. I appreciate such level headed discourse from folks like yourself. Of course this story is completely isolated and there is no indication ANYWHERE on the planet where Sharia Law is encroaching itself onto western cultures. There is no indication of islamic fundamentalists imposing theirown beliefs on others.

Originally posted by beezzer
Of course this story is completely isolated and there is no indication ANYWHERE on the planet where Sharia Law is encroaching itself onto western cultures. There is no indication of islamic fundamentalists imposing theirown beliefs on others.

There's your problem. You've assumed one thing, tried, and failed, to find something to back it up. Your own data has shown that this is incorrect. This is looking more like hate speech all the more.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by beezzer
Of course this story is completely isolated and there is no indication ANYWHERE on the planet where Sharia Law is encroaching itself onto western cultures. There is no indication of islamic fundamentalists imposing theirown beliefs on others.

There's your problem. You've assumed one thing, tried, and failed, to find something to back it up. Your own data has shown that this is incorrect. This is looking more like hate speech all the more.

No sir. Just simply pointing out that this is not an isolated event.
How many singular issues does it take to create a trend?

How immature of the person to go up to a woman about to feed her son and tell her to stop because A BREAST IS INVOLVED???

This person must put a sheet round their legs when sitting down to poo. Oh the horrors of nature.. noit to mention nurturing your child...

How could someone even for second think they were doing anyone a favor by interveining over a possibly breast exposure??

Even though this article may come from a questionable source, this does indeed happen more often than you might think. My brother in law works in a recreation complex and told me that a woman was feeding her baby on the side of the pool and was told to stop by an ignorant lifeguard because there were children around! HELLO???

Needless to say there are now big signs everywhere that say Breastfeeding is Permitted.

Originally posted by beezzer
No sir. Just simply pointing out that this is not an isolated event.

What? Government employees doing something wrong? That doesn't qualify as news. We're the worst. Trying to pin this on Muslims? :shk: