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Is reincarnation possible?

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posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 08:24 AM
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This is what i have learned in life, and i will share it with you.
i have learned that human life is given after you have passed all the life stages such as ants, bugs, animal, trees, and than finally you were given a life as human, from this point, you can now advance into a higher being. To achieve those higher stages one must meditate.

Reincarnation is deff possible, i am saying yes because i had an older brother who was born before i did, he died at age 8, i was born right after a year so , after he passed away. My religion is Hindu so people actually go to a guru to get a astronomical chart. What the guru does is writes a small booklet about your future and draws out the astronomical chart you were born in. Astronomical chart shows how and when each planets in your life will affect you, it also is used for marriage purposes. Well when my mom took me to see the guru, he said your son who passed away, is given another life as meaning i am basically a reincarnation of my brother. Guru said , from what i see, god had mistakenly taken your son away before and now he is giving it back to you. Its amazing right, and he also said this son of yours is going to be well protected under God. so yes reincarnation is possible.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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From some things I have read, yes, you live to learn, and when you die, you meet The Creation, and you get a choice of existing at that level, experiencing what there is to experience, or choose to come back...if you choose to come back, you get to come back as a teacher, imparted with far more knowledge than before.

I have an 18mnth old son who struts around like he knows everything, and owns the house and is completely enamoured by the moon and stars.

I have a 5 year old son who told ME that the purpose of life was to remember the ones you did before. I was so shocked I had to clarify THAT statement...I asked "You mean, thats what we have to do? We have to remember? Thats what life is about? (Far more confusing than his statement) He said "Yep" with all the assurance of an elder, but the enthusiasm of a child.

I have a 7 yr old son who immediately jumped in on the topic and said "This is my only life, I have no memories of ones before" and the scary thing is he truly behaves like he doesnt understand the laws of this universe yet. He doesnt get the learning through making mistakes instinct most of us have too.

Some things are strange. But, I think, the idea of trying to perfect a soul, or a spirit, by behaving accordingly, and living in harmony with nature around us, sounds and feels to me like what this whole thing is about.
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posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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The establishment and preservation of inimitable Identity is the primordial survival effort of all that exists, and the concept of reincarnation directly violates the concept of inimitable Identity. There are other explanations for what has been pointed to as being proof of reincarnation, and given the immutable nature of the existential requirement that only consistent and permanently established Identity satisfies, the idea of exchanging one full conscious personality for another doesn't fair very well when critically examined.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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When moving from a lower frequency into a higher frequency, it is easy to retain the memories of that life, and of course remembering every single one before that too.

Moving back down into a lower frequency doesnt allow the same transition of those memories, probably for that precise purpose, otherwise the spirit wouldn't learn anew, and no doubt abuse that knowledge in the frequency of matter.


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posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by seabhac-rua

Originally posted by nightbringr
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'___' has never been proven to be produced naturally in our bodies. The old myth of our brains releasing it upon death is exactly that, a myth.

After my own "experimentations" with '___' I'm more convinced than ever that the things we see and feel on it are simply figments of our imagination. We see what we want or more importantly, expect to see.


What about the pineal gland? Doesn't that produce '___'?


The pineal gland produces seratonin and melatonin. Again, natural '___' production in the human body is a myth. Wikipedias link:

en.wikipedia.org...

I was (am) a psychonaut for many years, and one thing I believe i have discovered is that the things we feed our brains affect our perceptions. They do not give us magic new perceptions, or open up new dimensions to us. While we are under the influence, we may see or believe all kinds of fantastic things, but this is no different than how a mentally deranged patient may have delusions that are not real.

The idea of reincarnation is a terrifying one to me, and i prefer not to believe in it. There is so much suffering and pain in life. My current existance most likely being about as good as it gets. I was born into a modest but comfortable existance in the West with all the opportunities that affords us. I do not want to be born again. I do not want to forget the lessons i learned in this life. I could easily be born into a life of slavery or torment in my next life and i dont want it.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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Good reply, Lynda101. My own thoughts reflect yours. I went through past life regression a long time ago, after a time of many visions and supernatural happenings in my life that were freaking me out. Today I have memories of events and time place events. I often meet new people that I know from a previous life, and little kids are always staring at me, and smiling. I too think, based on many sources, that reincarnation was actually taught by Christians before the Council of Nicaea brought an end to it, and, in time, and end to a great many people who did not agree with the teachings.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Quite a few people responded to my post so ill try to give some answers the best I can.

'___' is not only found in humans but in thousands of species of plants and animals. I don't usually like using only one piece of reference material for a discussion (in this case the film) but I do think that it has some very good points which need to be touched upon.

'___' produced within the human body is no myth, in the film and its experiments they do detect it in a number of cases where its naturally occurring. However its important to note that the amount being produced is minuscule, which is why its hard to detect even under the right conditions.

Again i would like to point out that im 50/50 on the whole thing. But the facts are the facts.

I also wanted to touch on a subject that someone responded on, about how it was just thier "imagination" while thier were on a '___' "trip". What is you imagination if not your mind/conciousness working in an alternate way? Thats the whole point of the film. To find out how to get a deeper understanding of what conciousness is. All the '___' is doing is simply expanding the process in which your mind works.

Of course its going to be "trippy" and wierd, your mind is experiencing things that it never has before.

On a personal note (and the conspiracy theorists will love this one) i think its entirely possible that mind altering substances (Drugs) are made illegal for that very reason. To stop you expanding your mind and seeing things that free you from the program that TPTB have put in place.

I just think its bizzar that if a substance alters your state of mind its instantly classed as an "Hulluncinogen". Simply because they cant figure out exactly what your mind is experiencing.

You only have to watch the film and see the results of the tests to see what im talking about.

On a final note i just want to put forward that this is not an advertisement to go out and get stoned on every illegal drug you can find. The tests on the film are done in a medical environment with qualified personnel on standby for emergencies.

The use of illegal drugs would be fine if it was monitored and done in a controlled enviorment. If drugs are abused and used purely for recreational purposes then it very damaging to youself. Im sure everyone reading this knows at least one drug addict thats in a right state all the time. Thats what happens when you abuse it. When used properly i can open doorways to things you never thought were possible.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Again, the '___' issues brought up in these videos have been debunked. The tiny amount of '___' if any that has been discovered has also been shown to be incapable of causing a "trip". In order for '___' to be bio-available, you are required to partake in a MAOI restricted diet for up to several days. If this is not careful done, your natural stomach acids neutralize any '___' that might be present. It has never been proven to be dumped directly into our bloodstream, and i have read many reports debunking the '___' myth.

The vast majority of '___' in the body seems to be in the spinal cord, with no way to make it to the brain.

A good read on the problems of '___' effecting humans who lack a MAOI restricted diet:

www.erowid.org...

Im not sure if you have had experiences like i have, but I have had dozens of trips on '___' and hundreds on other substances. The one thing i can tell you after all the experimentation is that our mind does what it wants to. One thing that stands out, especially with '___', is how our histories and beliefs can influence what we experience. A Hindu might experience Nirvana, a Christian heaven, and an atheist might journey the universe. This tends to tell me that our minds our what we make of them. I honestly do not see the connection with this substances and some spirit world, and yes, that is exactly why i started my experiementations. To try and open my mind to new possibilities.

After all this time i am more convinced than ever that we never truely know what exists after our death until that moment we leave this world and move onto the next (if any) existance.

Ps. Just had to add this. While yes, taking '___' might give us a what we feel to be a spiritual experience, it is a drug acting on our brains. A simple chemical process. What does this tell us about our universe and existance at large? Nothing. When we die, our spirIts, if any, are seperated from our brains. Why do we draw a conclusion that a chemical process on our physical brain is anything like what we would experience after death? It really is quite a leap in logic.

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posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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Yes, it exists, just not in the way you would think. If were are re-incarnated into actual human form after death, then what happens when humans go extinct? Think about that! Why are we just limited to re-incarnation here on Earth? Why can't I be re-incarnated, into a highly intelligent alien race, from the other side of the universe? OR why not re-incarnated as a God in another dimension or another universe?


Look @ it like this, you're made of electrons, electrons never decay. They are a like a universal tape recorder of everything that has been experienced. After death, they are released back into the universe, with all your recorded information in them, only to be recycled into something else. So, do you live on after death, certainly, just depends on what form you take on afterwards.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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I’m not religious in any way but through some research I like the Buddha philosophy. He didn’t want to be worshiped as a god, he basically said we are all god.
Reincarnation makes as much or more sense than all the other religions that believe in a one god put together. If you believe in reincarnation than you should live your life as best you can. Reincarnation states (I’m not quoting so bear with my memories) if you live a good life, and not purposely harm others then you will go to another plain of existence, till a time when you are reborn. Reincarnation is like school you should learn from each life and strive for enlightenment, but once you reach enlightenment you still cannot stay on the higher plain forever.
Once there you will be shown the light so to speak and exist as all knowing, but since souls and the earth change you will still have to come back some day to learn more. Knowledge is never ending.
To those who say there aren’t enough souls for reincarnation to be real (there’s more people around today than ever before) perhaps you are more than one person at a time, the sales man and the customer. If we are a part of a whole and our souls interact when we are dead sharing knowledge and experience, then maybe after you begin this journey and became more experienced you can split, like a computer working on more than one problem at a time.
Murderers and people who chose to live evil lives go to the other plain where they are stripped of their humanity and are then made to no longer exist, in any plain. Basically your search is over and you are banned to nothing less. Or perhaps you are absorbed and used as a piece for a new soul. After all knowledge no matter how bad it is is, is still a type of knowledge and perhaps used in building a new soul, procreation.
If reincarnation exists then it would be a good thing and people should live their lives to their full potential and not purposely harm another, because perhaps when you go to the next plain you will live the lives of the people you harmed and feel what they did, (and I don’t mean literally, ever have your life flash before you, perhaps that’s what will happen) so be kind to others, help when you can and you will eventually reach nirvana, and isn’t that what we all want.
I like the idea of reincarnation because I think karma exists and why not? It isn’t hard to be kind and it feels good to help others. So peace be with all and knowledge is the key to freedom.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by chrismicha77
Look @ it like this, you're made of electrons, electrons never decay. They are a like a universal tape recorder of everything that has been experienced. After death, they are released back into the universe, with all your recorded information in them, only to be recycled into something else. So, do you live on after death, certainly, just depends on what form you take on afterwards.


Please explain to me the mechanics in which an electron "stores" our information on it.

Im not a particle physicist by any measure, but as far as i know, electrons can only store a positive or negative charge. I suppose enough electrons chained could store some kind of binary coding, but alas, our electrons will never stay together in such a pattern and somehow reconstitute into a new being as you say, possibly in another galaxie.

Any futher explaination into this theory?



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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Throughout history, dreams have been considered one way in which another reality can communicate with this reality. Although 99.999% percent of my dreams are what I consider normal, I’ve had a handful of dreams that I consider special. By special, I mean dreams I believe were given to me as a form of communication from an unseen reality. Three dreams I’ve had in particular have convinced me that reincarnation is real.

The first dream I had several years ago. I dreamt I was a bombardier in WWII. I had a different name and I was stationed in England. I dreamt my plane was shot down on a mission over occupied Europe and I died in the crash.

The second dream I had was about five months ago. I dreamt I was in a room with four or five other people. I felt the presence of my deceased father in the room with me but I didn’t see him. I and the other four or five people were told that we were about to be given a “gift.” Shortly thereafter I felt myself flying through blackness. I didn’t know where I was going but I knew I was being guided. I looked off to my right-hand side as I was flying and all I could see were two flashes of light. It didn’t take too long, but eventually we reached a place that I can only describe as an enormous place of light and pure energy. We then turned around and started to fly back through the darkness. After a short time the blackness turned to grey and then the grey parted. I could see the curvature of the Earth down below me. Soon, I woke back up in the room where we were originally and I understood what was meant when we were told were being given a gift. I knew then that there was life after death.

The third dream I had was about three months ago. I dreamt I was a young man in my early twenties and I had enlisted in the air force. I was being trained along with a young woman about my age on some kind of simulator. We were going to be stationed at a “Space City.” I was kind of amused by the term Space City because I knew that term was really more for public relations than an accurate description. I knew where I was going was to be difficult and the living conditions harsh, but I was looking forward to the experience.

I know this doesn’t amount to proof for any doubters. However for me these dreams are real experiences and I believe I have been given a communication of what my past life was, what will happen when I pass from this life, and a glimpse into what my next life might be.

 



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Everybody should watch this documentary, showed it to my boyfriend - i am his laughingstock when it comes to my general interests within the weird world - and he said it was the most beautiful documentary he had seen! This is about a swedish carpenter whom's body is ''borrowed'' by a 3000 year old soul who call's himself Ambres. Sture (the carpenter) is not so happy to be a medium as he has not chose to lend his body away. This documentary had me at once, no more speculating in what happens when we die. Ambres tell everything you need to know, including the concept of reincarnation. (dvd has extra interviews) Eng subs!

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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I would start here - www.esalenctr.org...

Also, computers are starting to use electrons for memory as well. So who's to say the electrons in our body do not?


In a development that could see major innovations being introduced to the computer industry, a team of investigators recently managed to produce the first plastic-based memory device that uses electrons to read and write data, rather the usual magnetic “1s” and “0s.”


news.softpedia.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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Have seen the documentary! And also went on to buying the book! Very interesting substance and i would recommend everybody to get some knowledge about this subject. Clearly this is the source to the ''magic'' and the answers we seek within us. I would recommend meditating to open the third eye!



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by chrismicha77
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I would start here - www.esalenctr.org...

Also, computers are starting to use electrons for memory as well. So who's to say the electrons in our body do not?


In a development that could see major innovations being introduced to the computer industry, a team of investigators recently managed to produce the first plastic-based memory device that uses electrons to read and write data, rather the usual magnetic “1s” and “0s.”


news.softpedia.com...



Thank you for proving my point.

Its a binary system. In order for the electrons to be used as a memory, the electrons are placed next to each other in a "string", and they are either charged "1", or not charged "0". Its brilliant! But also impossible to be used in the sense you are describing. In a human body, electrons are not "held together" in the manner required for this to work.

Complicating matters even more are the fact that, even if this could somehow work inside our physical bodies, electrons do not just float away from our bodies when we die. Decomposition takes time, and even still these will end up in the ground. If you want to take a metaphysical standpoint and say perhaps that when we die, these are released into the air to perhaps reconstitute into a new born baby, why would they "stick" in the order they were released in? And what mechanism would be used to "download" this information into your brain?

I just dont see how it would work.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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This is what i have learned in life, and i will share it with you.
i have learned that human life is given after you have passed all the life stages such as ants, bugs, animal, trees, and than finally you were given a life as human, from this point, you can now advance into a higher being.


Right on brotha!!


I had information along these line "downloaded" to me about a month ago while I was lying in bed. Its like I instantly understood it all.
The hard part is putting it down in a cognitive form. The paper I'm going to write will be called "We are all angels in training". I can analogise alittle bit about the part where you have to learn your lessons to progress to the next stage. It goes somthing like this: (Im gonna skip over the lower life stages ie- atoms, molecules, single cells)

An ant is born with the hive mentality way of life instilled into is brain, it was to learn its life lesson to upgrade
(possibley learning how to survive on its own). Next level is a life form that has survival instilled in its brain from birth such as a dog. Then for that dog to upgrade it has to learn that "energy level" lesson (most likey to learn SELF). like when you put a mirror infront of 2 dogs and one barks at its self while the other just looks at it and goes," So what?....Its me, " So the dog that barks at its reflection hasn't learned self and the dog that has will get to upgrade. Next up....Human beings- We are born with SELF instilled into us from birth and our lesson is to learn, probebly, that there is a creator. Or somthing along those lines.
Like I said, what was "downloaded" to me is hard to put into an understandable form.
So when the Bible says that you will never go to heaven (next level) unless you know God. That statment in the Bible would be correct concidering that you cant level up unless you learn your lessons, or you will just keep going round and round until your soul energy finds the right vessel to learn its lesson.

Its kinda like a video game with a twist. You can roam around the level forever trying to find the end, but you cant because its not the end. You can only level up once you realise that there is another level.





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posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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I'm about to go set an ant bed on fire, stomp on a bug, shoot an animal, and chop down a tree. They'll thank me for it!



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 03:18 PM
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I'm about to go set an ant bed on fire, stomp on a bug, shoot an animal, and chop down a tree. They'll thank me for it!

They wont unless they've already learned their lesson.

In that case you will know whether or not they learned their lesson when you trip over a dog, land in an ant bed and a tree limb falls on your head. You'll have your answer then.



posted on Jul, 7 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by creatureme
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Have seen the documentary! And also went on to buying the book! Very interesting substance and i would recommend everybody to get some knowledge about this subject. Clearly this is the source to the ''magic'' and the answers we seek within us. I would recommend meditating to open the third eye!


I totally agree. If your interested in the science behind the 3rd eye, take a look at David Wilkcox's work on the pineal gland.

2012 Event Horizon Part 1 - www.youtube.com...
2012 Event Horizon Part 2 - www.youtube.com...
2012 Event Horizon Part 3 - www.youtube.com...
2012 Event Horizon Part 4 - www.youtube.com...

The whole thing is about 3 1/2 hours but well worth a watch. If you liked the spirit molecule film you will certainly like this.

Just a quick note to the peeps advising me that the '___' theory has been debunked. I haven't heard that myself and my own personal research has led me further down the rabbit hole on this one.

However if it does turn out to be false then so be it. Its no biggie. But if nothing else its great to see people experimenting and exploring the possibilities of conciousness like this.

If by making thier movie they have convinced just one person to explore thier own conciousness and ask the right questions, then i would call that a sucess


Peace and love all



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