A man will be punished by dripping acid into his eyes in Tehran on Saturday May 14- Norway condemns

Ok when I read that she had acid thrown on her which caused her to be blind in one eye, I pictured she had some scars on one side of her face and a lost eye, and that the total blindness of the man was a little unjustified. But then I saw the pictures of her before and after, and really it looks like her face melted off. So I see how the punishment is in some ways justified, and really he deserves it.

But lets look at this thing a little closer, her life is totally ruined basically because of this criminals actions, but what would blinding and possible disfiguring of him actually achieve other then she is satisfied in her grievance for whatever period of time.

But now you would be left with a totally disfigured woman with problems and issues which she or the state or her family would have to deal with, or however things work in Iran. And I am guessing her family would have to deal with it mostly. And not only that now you have a blind man and what would you do with him? He would have to depend on the state or his family as well, or he would be out on the streets were he would die in short order.

As you can see a death sentence would be much more merciful and a better solution in this case then blinding a man then either letting him die in a ditch, or dealing with him by some sort of state run charity, or program, or whatever which somebody else such as tax payers, who have nothing to do with it will have to pay for and support it. And his misery though deserved would only just increase to the overall misery of the whole thing.

So no I don't think blinding him is the way to go, the way I see it either force him to pay for his crimes by supporting the victim with money and back breaking work. Or just give him a death sentence and that would be that, the jail thing might work in some cases but I don't think this case will do, plus the whole jailing system has it's own problems as well, first is that it really does not work all that well in rehabilitation of anybody, and second the whole privatization thing and for profit cheep labor direction it's going in will just lead to more and different problems.

But I read that she pushed for this punishment and she wants to be the one to do the blinding as well, so she is after revenge which is justifiable, but like I said the outcome would not be all that much better. If anything if she wants some revenge and to bring some pain to this guy, why not come to some sort of compromise, how about this.

Tie this guy to a chair in a supervised room, give her a bat and let her take out her frustration and anger on him for about 30 min or till she gets tired of fed up or gets some of her hatred out of her system. Then force him to pay for his crime with money throughout his life, and with rules that limits his lot in life. And I know what some of you all are thinking that tying somebody to a chair and taking a beating is cruel and evil.

But no in this case it's not, all that would happen he would feel some pain and suffer some bruises and possibly broken bones, all of which would be healed within a month or a couple of months, and the pain eventually forgotten. She would be able to let some steam out, but would still be disfigured for the rest of her life which wont go aways and she will be reminded of it every time she look's at a reflective surface, so ultimately a beating does not even add up. And thats were getting him to pay financially in some way to her for his crime, would come in.

But only if she agrees to it, if not! and she wants to blind this man, and it goes trough and everybody agrees to it the judges and such or whatever they have in Iran. Then you might as well just give him the death sentence because most likely he would be as good as dead, and the whole drawn out causing of suffering thing really does nothing much but add to the cycle of suffering. So death sentence and then wash your hand of the whole thing.

Because really there is no perfect answer or any ruling which would fix anything, or make things better. Only a appeasing to the victims involved in this case the woman who got disfigured for life. So I see these options as better then forced blinding. Either death, or life in prison, or some sort of compensation punishment construct if agreed upon by the victim, it would still be better then blinding him for life, because it would still most likely end up in death or prison for him eventually if blinded. Really he deserves what he gets because if he does not get a punishment it would just encourage him to do as he did again.

This one is a tough call for me as it conflicts on a few levels. An eye for an eye or turn the other cheek. What would Gandhi do? What kind of person would have done this in the first place? Instead of gravitating to the eye for an eye thing, would it not be wise to get to the bottom of what caused it. Is this man mentally ill? Was he abused? Along with many more questions. Then there's the story itself which goes sorta like "Man throws acid in woman's face for not dating him" Maybe the rest of the story could not provide any more detail because that's the entire nut. Then again there maybe more at stake. maybe she slept with his brother or whatever, the dynamics of the back story may make this sentance totally insane...So yeah, tough call!

Oooh, this poor poor man!! How can we let this happen? This world is so horrible!! Where is their humanity? Wah Wah Wah

This P.O.S. fully deserves the punishment that has been handed down to him!! That poor woman is scarred for life and she did not deserve it at all!! Anybody who feels sorry for this man, or thinks that he should be forgiven is sadly mistaken. If she won't do it, I'll gladly step in and drop acid in this jerk's eyes, after I rough him up first!! I do not beleive in Iran's policies, and see them as an enemy to the US, but in this instance, they are correct.

Eye for an eye, that's exactly how it should be!!

reply to post by Mindsmog


i think an "eye for an eye" goes the whole 9 yards.

not just a sterile chemical castration, for pedo's or rapists, for example or doing it in a hospital with doctors while under a general A.

the pain and terror should be felt by the perps of these horrendous crimes, like the victims.

otherwise what's the point? lol.

Originally posted by Nobama
That's such a crazy punishment

I wonder if they have a group that sits around a table and comes up with all these legal punishments? It wouldn't be so far fetch to think about, after all America pretty much does the same thing only with war and civilians..

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not hard really, if you rape and beat a woman, tie her to the bed and set her on fire,

no brainer there, don't ya think?

Originally posted by Caji316
Even though I don't hold for the bibles "an eye for an eye" for punishment, it sure would get America straitened out really quick....The jails and prisons would be quickly emptied....save us a lot of money also....

The jails and prisons would not be quickly emptied. We could not touch drug crimes with the eye for an eye approach and these make up a huge % of prisoners.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


Who in their rightful mind could do this to another human being?

I use to think David Ice was crazy............now I am not so sure.

reply to post by galadofwarthethird


I have two words for this..............crazy, insane.

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The problem with this system is that you could very easily end up putting acid in an innocent man's eye.

If an innocent man is wrongly convicted and locked up, at least he can be freed. You can't give a man his sight back.

Iran's judges must be supremely confident of their infallibility to work in a system that allows no mistakes.

Originally posted by skepticalofskeptics

Originally posted by Caji316
Even though I don't hold for the bibles "an eye for an eye" for punishment, it sure would get America straitened out really quick....The jails and prisons would be quickly emptied....save us a lot of money also....

The jails and prisons would not be quickly emptied. We could not touch drug crimes with the eye for an eye approach and these make up a huge % of prisoners.

There's no such thing as drug crimes. Drugs are a medical problem, not a criminal problem. It's too bad this country can't realize that.

Eye for an eye, I guess they would have to sit there sober and watch somebody else get high!!

Good for this lady. I see zero issue with this. He was tried in court found guilty now the sentence will be carried out I'm sorry but for all the people in this thread crying about how its unfair punishment take a step back and think about how you would feel if this was your daughter,mother,sister,wife. Her life has been ruined by some crazy bastard all because she refused his marriage offer!! How exactly would you be feeling. Its all fine and good to condemn someone for wanting what she wants until you've walked a mile in her shoes. Why shouldn't she be allowed to do as such to him? They need to go a step further once this over. Throw him back into society now he can share her fate and understand what exactly he has done to her.

The world has gone soft as far as crime and punishment goes. The punishment rarely fits the crime if ever. People get thrown in prison and guess who pays for their 3 squares a day and education. You and me. The death penalty is a joke. They go to death row for decades, most die of old age long before they ever eat their last meal. If it was up to me once you were found guilty and sentenced to death. The victims family would decide the method of death and it would be carried out within 24 hours. None of this 30 years of waiting. Next morning the killers life ends. End of story.

The same would go for all brutal crimes. You raped someone and beat them...guess what your getting a cavity search and it aint gonna be the nice kind with a rubber glove and some lube. Then your getting beat however you beat the victim, etc, etc

Originally posted by pityocamptes
Lawyers have made our legal system soft. No one cares and in fact the flaunt the system because they know nothing will happen to them. We need to go back to public hangings where little Johnny got to see someone get their neck stretched and thought twice about committing an illegal act against his fellow human/civilization.

Only if gender rights are downgraded like back in the "old days". The simple reality is in our societies women and girl's get off easy. A 12 year old boy is held to a higher standard then a grown woman. Combined with the rampant false rape accusations and false DV accusations, and the fact that men are given a stiffer sentence by 1,000% for same crime/criminal history. Such a system couldn't work because guy's/gal's like you would be quick to hang men and boy's but yet get squeamish when it comes to female criminals.

Heck your own post illustrates the fact that your a sexist man-hating, boy hating bigot. "illegal act against ""his"" fellow...". You do know that women and young women can do horrible things too right?

They are human beings to, and as such we should all be held to the same human standard.

But then again it wouldn't surprise me if your gun-ho on the whole idea of a Matriarchy where it is a death sentence for any male that refuses to put up with abuse from a female. And yet people are so quick to cast judgment on Sharia when they want the same thing just in reverse. Absolutely sickening.

Originally posted by deesul69
Oooh, this poor poor man!! How can we let this happen? This world is so horrible!! Where is their humanity? Wah Wah Wah

This P.O.S. fully deserves the punishment that has been handed down to him!! That poor woman is scarred for life and she did not deserve it at all!! Anybody who feels sorry for this man, or thinks that he should be forgiven is sadly mistaken. If she won't do it, I'll gladly step in and drop acid in this jerk's eyes, after I rough him up first!! I do not beleive in Iran's policies, and see them as an enemy to the US, but in this instance, they are correct.

Eye for an eye, that's exactly how it should be!!

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Yes for demons in a hellzone. Only the other path is graduation and going home. You like this hellzone? Everything here is a trap.

reply to post by Unity_99


Hell is living in an unjust world. Hopefully this experience will save his eternal soul to know that what he did was truly evil and he will never do it again. Let's hope he graduates after this.

Well an eye for an eye (or two in this case) i don't see what's wrong really. Who are you my dear puritan americans to criticize the law of a sovereign country... let alone Norway ?
Now if we're talking about emprisonned journalists, freedom of speech and such ok but not this am affraid. (as barabarian as it is for us western pseudo-democraties )

reply to post by AnteBellum



He threw acid on her face.

I find it quite suitable.

Originally posted by SlyingFaucers
People who are advocating eye for an eye justice are just as bad as the criminal in this instance. The problem here is a lack of respect for human life. Clearly the criminal in this case is wrong, but society as a whole will never get beyond these senseless crimes if this type of justice is endorsed. In fact, I think you would see more of it.

What would you have done then?

If someone can just walk up to anyone and throw acid in their face and get off free or just doing menial time, I'm sure that would make some people who wouldn't do it genuinely consider it.



Unfortunately this is a lose-lose scenario because we do need to move on from barbaric practices-- cause when one innocent person gets screwed over, then the law has utterly failed forever.
The only true way to win here is to remove the evil from planet earth, which there is no way to prove that they are that evil until they do the insane action-- whereby leaving us with someone who has to pay.

I hate how it's always lose lose

Originally posted by Caji316
Even though I don't hold for the bibles "an eye for an eye" for punishment, it sure would get America straitened out really quick....The jails and prisons would be quickly emptied....save us a lot of money also....

Oh come on!
The USA is the only 'developed' country that practices the death penalty.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans are in prison, I think, the highest proportion of population in the world!
You guys think your system is superior? Don't be absurd.

reply to post by Vicky32


I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume your against the death penalty?

Originally posted by MrB0B
This is completely horrific!

No-one is saying that this bloke is innocent, but to decide by law that he is to be blinded by the 'victim' is so far along the path of wrong I am surprised that anyone here could believe this 'sentence' to be just.

It's stories like this that make me wonder whether humanity stands any chance of making it.

Many of the people supporting this punishment also support bombing Iran into oblivion.

My conclusion: Some people just enjoy seeing others being hurt or killed, and will seek any validation for such "entertainment."

I'm with Norway