Fox News reported OBL's death DAYS EARLIER!!!

reply to post by megneverlands


Have a nice rest, thanks for the thread and hope you come back to find someone has found the video with the ticker!

Edit to add: Finally get a top of the page post & that ^^^ is what I post? haha, maybe I can find something good to add before I can no longer edit

Originally posted by LosLobos
I can't believe this thread is 28 pages long based what the OP claimed he or she saw. Not one piece of evidence has been brought forth that proves Fake News ran a ticker of Bin Laden's death a full day before he was killed.

So, are you saying Bin Laden was killed on the 29th?
Please clarify, and show some proof of your statement.

For the sake of being thorough, I just thought of this...

It's also possible that "Osama bin Laden Killed" was accidental, if someone had accidentally removed the first half of the "Al-Qaeda planned to unleash a nuclear disaster in Europe if Osama bin Laden killed". I've certainly seen typos in the ticker (and everywhere else) before... I've never seen a typo involving the absence of an entire section of a headline, but I suppose it's possible.

I read through the entire thread, but I can't remember if it's been stated if the actual wording was that bin Laden was "killed" or that he was "dead"...because "dead" would seem to make this possibility less likely, if that were the case.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
On a side note, why did this thread title all of a sudden change?

Did someone edit it? Meg?

I think the title was

Fox News reported OBL's death DAYS EARLY!

and now it's

Fox News reported Bin Laden

which makes no sense?

edit on 5/8/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)

The OP changed their title:

edit on 7-5-2011 by megneverlands because: Title didn't fit

reply to post by greeneyedleo


Thanks...she probably can't change it back now. Sigh...this one isn't very descriptive.

reply to post by CLPrime


But even under that logic it would open a whole new can of worms if a statement like that was released and then he gets killed a few days later, like a little too convenient if ya know what I mean. Whats the word I am looking for? Foreshadowing perhaps.

reply to post by Mikey84


I'm gonna have to go with Mikey84 on this one. I have looked through the massive backlog of tweets using Google Real-time (thanks Mikey84 for showing that to me) and I haven't found any other tweets that corroborate the OP's story.

In other words, The fox news ticker is watched by a minimum of thousands of people at any given moment. An announcement this massive would undoubtedly have sent shock-waves amongst "Tweeters" throughout the "Twitter world".

Also, Twitter aside, one of the over one hundred thousand ATS members surly would have seen it and made a thread about it? Come on people use your common sense.

This case is closed in my book, peace out.

-Alien

reply to post by CLPrime


This is what she said:, "The Fox News ticker is saying Osama bin Laden is dead. No breaking news & no other channels reporting. How odd.."

reply to post by Alien Abduct

Almost dead, I agree. But not quite. I think there are a few outstanding things some people are checking up on.A

Also, someone who saw that tweet may well have just checked the news, seen nothing on about it, and dropped it. At least that's what I would have instinctively done.

reply to post by jaynkeel


True...but it mostly makes the original headline suspicious. But, of course, it does anyway, because, with or without the typo, the promise of retaliation to bin Laden's death came just days before his death. The typo would just be a bit of an intriguing "coincidence".

Even if we did track down video of the original airing with the ticker and the headline in question, and it was confirmed that it did say "Osama bin Laden Killed," we would still have the possibility of it being an accidental misstatement of the retaliation headline. The only way we can really confirm Fox's foreknowledge is for the headline to be completely removed from the retaliation headlines... mainly by reading, instead, something like "Osama bin Laden dead." Of course, if the ticker for that time period makes no mention of the retaliation headline, then we can also assume it's not a typo, because there would be no headline for it to be a typo of.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


That, I did remember (and read it again before I posted, just to make sure). Granted, it's not a direct quote, but is it more likely that the headline, itself, said "dead" considering she used the word "dead"? I think, possibly.

ETA: Back on page 14, MentalPriapism mentioned possibly seeing the same headline, but used the word "killed".

Originally posted by Mikey84

Originally posted by Under Water
reply to post by LosLobos

 

A twitter date stamp is what makes it evidence....

It doesn't prove anything or give evidence to anything. Someone tweeted on December 29th and 30th that Osama was dead, and what?

"judyth_piazza‎ RT @newsblaze Osama Bin Laden is Dead?
Osama Bin Laden is Dead?‎ - newsblaze.com
Twitter - Dec 30, 2010 4:38:31 AM"

"KJKinLA‎ Osama bin Laden is dead - Washington Times
Osama bin Laden is dead - Washington Times‎ - washingtontimes.com
Twitter - Dec 29, 2010 5:46:25 PM"

OMG

Mikey

edit on 8/5/2011 by Mikey84 because: (no reason given)

Oh come on, look at the timing. And the fact that fox's first report said he was killed a week before the announcement. Are you suggesting she just made it all up, and by some crazy streak of luck, after 10 f'ng years, they just happen to kill him days after she "made it up"?
OMG

You know what, for me it's a matter of deduction. Eliminate the least likely scenarios, and the one that's left is most likely the truth. I believe her. I think the fact that she tweeted this on the 28th is very telling. And I think that the fact the gov and msm changed their stories so many times in less than a week is also telling. Sometimes you need to learn to accept the obvious when it's starring you in the face.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


Surly someone besides her and her grandmother seen this? I mean its FOX NEWS not some local backwoods TV news station. It is absurd to believe that there is not one other person to corroborate this if in fact this had happened, NOT ONE.

-Alien

I really like this thread. I know many of us find this very strange, but only a handful of us seem to be attempting to hypothesize, or theorize a likely scenario that would have led to this outcome, this mystery we are now staring down. So I will take a crack at it. I think it was CLprime, not sure, who made a great post regarding his theory, which is very plausible. I will expand on one of his ideas as well.

I trust the OP's tweet, first and foremost, and will take into consideration the tweet about Bin Laden being killed by a missile one week earlier, as well as the guy who live-tweeted the event in Abottabad as it unfolded. So if Osama was killed one week prior to the announcement, and was indeed killed by a missile, obviously the gov. sat on it. My guess is that the body was too mangled to be 100% sure it was him, so DNA testing was done...It would have been done anyway most likely.

So they sit on it for a week, waiting for results and trying to decide what to do. They realize that they have already broken Muslim law regarding the body, so they cannot tell the truth without upsetting a lot of people. So they need a cover story.

This may not be the reason they sat on the news, but it is plausible. Assuming the raid did go down, according to the live-tweeter, what or who were they really after? Would they go through all that just to create a cover story?

It was said that OBL rarely, if ever, left the compound. Could it be possible that the US got intelligence that someone had seen him about a week ago if he indeed did leave the compound? Maybe they got his vehicle or his immediate location with a predator drone. Maybe it took them awhile to get boots on the ground to recover the body.

IF that were the case, then the raid itself may have been simply to recover any intelligence that would most likely still have remained at the compound. But that means they would had to have known he was there beforehand anyway, so why wait?

Now, if the tweet about him being killed by a missile is incorrect, which it probably is, there could have been some different scenarios. I will assume that the media knew the announcement would be made. The White House probably wouldn't have prepared such a release if they hadn't already accomplished their mission of killing Bin Laden, and I am trying to figure out what that means.

Here is my best guess, and my personal theory. OBL could have been killed at any time during the past. There had probably been talk at the White House of an upcoming release of info that OBL was dead, therefore a few ears in Washington heard this, and it spread a little bit, finding its way onto the ticker bar and some Fox guy's Twitter account. There was probably confusion considering if people were hearing rumors, they would assume that if OBL was killed it would be announced immediately. So maybe Fox jumped the gun and aired it accidentally, or assumed they would be given confirmation, and the go ahead to release later that day, so they just stuck that tidbit of info on the ticker, while planning to report all the details when they were given to them.

So it was either accidentally put there, or Fox just jumped the gun thinking it wasn't that big of a deal, assuming the official confirmation would come shortly.

The main problem with my theory however, is that the entire raiding of the compound doesn't make sense. UNLESS, since they lost a chopper they couldn't deny they were there, and had to cover it up. They probably weren't going after Osama at all. I mean, no one knew he was there right? All of this is just so speculative, and I hope that at least a piece of my theory is correct, and that we can piece together what likely happened.

I think the majority of the main pieces of info are floating around the site, but no one has brought them all together into a convincing thread/post that I am aware of. That is what I attempted to do here, although I was really just rambling and thinking out loud because I am really sleepy, lol.

Originally posted by Under Water
Oh come on, look at the timing. And the fact that fox's first report said he was killed a week before the announcement. Are you suggesting she just made it all up, and by some crazy streak of luck, after 10 f'ng years, they just happen to kill him days after she "made it up"?

If you actually read, you would see that I don't at all think she made it up, I think she honestly believes that is what she seen on the ticker, I just think she may have misread it.

Originally posted by Alien Abduct
reply to post by ~Lucidity

 

Surly someone besides her and her grandmother seen this? I mean its FOX NEWS not some local backwoods TV news station. It is absurd to believe that there is not one other person to corroborate this if in fact this had happened, NOT ONE.

-Alien

Well just judging by how you normally get slammed on this site by linking anything to foxnews I would count on anyone from here watching it!!! Sorry couldn't resist.

reply to post by Alien Abduct


theres no one on ats. it may only have been on for 30 seconds, like i said earlier if only 25 people worldwide seen it, less than 1 in 25 visit ATS.statistically even the one thread about it is quite unlikely

Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
I really like this thread. I know many of us find this very strange, but only a handful of us seem to be attempting to hypothesize, or theorize a likely scenario that would have led to this outcome, this mystery we are now staring down. So I will take a crack at it. I think it was CLprime, not sure, who made a great post regarding his theory, which is very plausible. I will expand on one of his ideas as well.

I trust the OP's tweet, first and foremost, and will take into consideration the tweet about Bin Laden being killed by a missile one week earlier, as well as the guy who live-tweeted the event in Abottabad as it unfolded. So if Osama was killed one week prior to the announcement, and was indeed killed by a missile, obviously the gov. sat on it. My guess is that the body was too mangled to be 100% sure it was him, so DNA testing was done...It would have been done anyway most likely.

So they sit on it for a week, waiting for results and trying to decide what to do. They realize that they have already broken Muslim law regarding the body, so they cannot tell the truth without upsetting a lot of people. So they need a cover story.

This may not be the reason they sat on the news, but it is plausible. Assuming the raid did go down, according to the live-tweeter, what or who were they really after? Would they go through all that just to create a cover story?

It was said that OBL rarely, if ever, left the compound. Could it be possible that the US got intelligence that someone had seen him about a week ago if he indeed did leave the compound? Maybe they got his vehicle or his immediate location with a predator drone. Maybe it took them awhile to get boots on the ground to recover the body.

IF that were the case, then the raid itself may have been simply to recover any intelligence that would most likely still have remained at the compound. But that means they would had to have known he was there beforehand anyway, so why wait?

Now, if the tweet about him being killed by a missile is incorrect, which it probably is, there could have been some different scenarios. I will assume that the media knew the announcement would be made. The White House probably wouldn't have prepared such a release if they hadn't already accomplished their mission of killing Bin Laden, and I am trying to figure out what that means.

Here is my best guess, and my personal theory. OBL could have been killed at any time during the past. There had probably been talk at the White House of an upcoming release of info that OBL was dead, therefore a few ears in Washington heard this, and it spread a little bit, finding its way onto the ticker bar and some Fox guy's Twitter account. There was probably confusion considering if people were hearing rumors, they would assume that if OBL was killed it would be announced immediately. So maybe Fox jumped the gun and aired it accidentally, or assumed they would be given confirmation, and the go ahead to release later that day, so they just stuck that tidbit of info on the ticker, while planning to report all the details when they were given to them.

So it was either accidentally put there, or Fox just jumped the gun thinking it wasn't that big of a deal, assuming the official confirmation would come shortly.

The main problem with my theory however, is that the entire raiding of the compound doesn't make sense. UNLESS, since they lost a chopper they couldn't deny they were there, and had to cover it up. They probably weren't going after Osama at all. I mean, no one knew he was there right? All of this is just so speculative, and I hope that at least a piece of my theory is correct, and that we can piece together what likely happened.

I think the majority of the main pieces of info are floating around the site, but no one has brought them all together into a convincing thread/post that I am aware of. That is what I attempted to do here, although I was really just rambling and thinking out loud because I am really sleepy, lol.

what got me about bin laden's death straight away was the burial at sea. muslims are buried in the ground, not in coffins (except in the UK where a coffin is required by law) but wrapped in linen. their bodies face mecca. they never bury at sea

reply to post by Alien Abduct

You are totally correct. It's not likely, but stranger things have happened. To calculate the odds, you'd have to get numbers on the amount of viewers watching at that moment, see what percentage of them tweet, FB, post here, People generally ignore the ticker unless something catches their eye, and then, as someone said a few dozen times already in this thread, they may only see part of it. A percentage of these wait for it to scroll again. and so on, and so forth This story is spreading, so let's see if anyone speaks up to say they saw it to. .

reply to post by 00bil


FOX news has the highest ratings out every news channel in the entire world, you think that out of the MILLIONS of people that watch FOX news AND tweet on a daily basis that not one of them besides this person seen this????

I'm out of here this is absurd until I see at least ONE corroborating story.

-Alien