6 Year Old Girl groped by New Orleans TSA.This Has To Stop...

Originally posted by lastrebel
I wonder how many of you will be defending them when they start full boy cavity searches on 6 yearolds...........after all they might be hiding a nuke in there.........ummmmmm.....you know.....body

That's ridiculous.. but also a good reason to start a thread and actually label it correctly unlike these 2 videos, especially the guy who attacks a standard procedure and not being discriminative just because it's a little girl. Groping is a lot like massaging.

Great, conditioning the younger generations to believe that limiting liberties and rights is okay.

reply to post by LooseLipsSinkShips


Most likely yes. It was implemented after people began objecting to the backscatter machines on grounds of invasion of privacy and health concerns over the whole body dose radiation. I just posted some sites on that as well. I personally believe that it is intended as part of the de-population agenda. Chertoff also stood to gain financially from the production and implementation of the machines.

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reply to post by 31Bravo


True enough, but honestly my question is why search this family? My first thought while watching this video is "whats this little girl going to have on her person?" I mean even in terms of physical space. What could she possibly be carrying onto a plane? an M80?

TSA always just confuses me with their decision making. Coming out of San Diego with my brother after his Marine induction (in full dress blues straight from the base) the TSA searched him for 15 minutes making him take off his uniform and everything, whilst I stood next to him having gone through the check totally fine with A QUARTER OF CHRONIC IN MY FRONT POCKET! I mean seriously! it was one of the most bizarre things I've witnessed at the airport in all my years lol.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Forgive me if this has been brought up already but flying is neither a "privilege" nor a "right".
It is a contract between yourself and an air carrier company.
Therefore it is a violation of your rights to be searched unless by purchase of your ticket you have consented to whatever stipulations are included in the ticket.
I haven't flown in years and I certainly will not as long as we have to go through the same thing convicts do whenever being transported.
All of this because of an "Underwear bomber" who only succeeded in burning himself?
It's like calling in an airstrike because you have an ant problem.

Word for word you are right. This is exactly how convicts are treated before transportation and/or general movement in the prison. They still manage to hide contraband too...

Also you are right that flying is not a privilege or right. (However, entering other countries could be viewed as a privilege-depending on the country)

To add to your ant problem metaphor: This may stop an underwear bomber, but what about someone who stores something in an internal cavity?

Given that the whole thing is a waste of money and an inconvenience to all who travel... It seems like the only real effect that will come out of this are reduced numbers of air travelers. Is that the purpose of it all?

Or is it solely to give the illusion of security?

Forgot to mention that if someone wants to blow up an airplane the best way to do it is to pay the cleaning staff or baggage handlers a few grand and KABOOM. Thats how pros do it! Not sneaking a quarter stick in your underwear and HOPING to pass security.

Seriously its all smoke&mirrors people. Not only do they not care about security but they are testing peoples' reaction to tyranny. This nwo stuff is as real as it gets I am afraid and the fema camps(with coffins) did not get built for luxury travel. Far from it indeed!

I think we need Criminal Profiling experts at airports. It would be better and more efficient than a policy of what in my yes amounts to molestation of the general public by the government.

I can't imagine the TSA people are fond of this policy either.

reply to post by 31Bravo


Although, I would think if your child's elementary school or something like that, would say they needed to feel your daughter's body a bit before they let her inside, most people would have MAJOR issues.

It's not a question of if they were fondling your child, but the fact that a grown adult stranger is putting their hands on areas of children that would never be permitted in any other place in society!!

"oh theyre using the back of their hands so its OK for them to feel the inside of my 6 year olds thighs" yeaaaaahhhh......

reply to post by DaGremlin


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Guess who has money to gain from the naked body scanners you guessed it! They made the frisking necessary to all passengers who refused naked body scanners. Its either let your daughter be scanned child pornography or let her be molested by some stranger you sick $&%*#. You people are messed in the head.

Also i never said i knew anything for absolute truth anyone can be wrong about anything. Where are you coming up with these assumptions ?

reply to post by projectvxn


exactlyyyyy. someone who can judge based on reasonable suspicion rather than random feel-ups for the peace of mind of those around them

reply to post by Caji316


Hey Canadian guy in Video. How Stupid are you? You don't have to answer that, your video proved it.

They didn't boo the Female TSA agent because She was just doing Her Job. She searched the girl just like she searches adults. This is NOT Molestation. This is checking for drugs or weapons for everyone's Safety. It would not be the first time children were used to smuggle drugs or weapons into places!

Now, Do I think this is overkill and scanners are enough instead of TSA agents doing physical contact. You bet I do, but molestation.. No Sir not in any way shape or form.

People like you lie and use tricks like that to insight riots. Mr. you should be ashamed of yourself.

Originally posted by XRaDiiX
reply to post by DaGremlin

 

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Guess who has money to gain from the naked body scanners you guessed it! They made the frisking necessary to all passengers who refused naked body scanners. Its either let your daughter be scanned child pornography or let her be molested by some stranger you sick $&%*#. You people are messed in the head.

Also i never said i knew anything for absolute truth anyone can be wrong about anything. Where are you coming up with these assumptions ?

You just seem so cock-sure. That's all. Like most, my assumptions come from my head.

Again, I'm not arguing for the use of back scatter x-ray.

My whole point with this whole post is that the girl isn't being groped. She's not being molested. She's not being tortured. That is all.

What do you mean by "you people?" Racist.

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
What exactly do you expect them to do? Three points:

1) Like it or not there are people who can and will use children and our sensitivities to them against us by hiding items on their bodies. There are a fair amount of people in the world who would do some very sick things to a child to accomplish the aims of the almighty god.

2) This is far from "groping", by definition.

3) If the issue is that it's the government doing it, fine, I tend to agree and I'm no government apologist. However, if we removed the government and required airport owners and airlines themselves to provide their own security (which would be fine with me) provided they took the burden should they miss anything, it would be whatever security company these companies would hire doing the exact same thing.

Would it be different if it was a private company?

Peace
KJ

Good points. Yes, no one wants children to have to endure this kind of thing. However, what is the alternative? Just let children go through unchecked? If so, then you know the first thing a terrorist is going to do is to exploit that and use children as carriers for their bombs. For everyone who cries out against this, if it's not done then we're going to have planes exploding and falling from the sky. Then, many of the people who scream against security are going to say that the government has to do something about the killing and destruction.

It's a sad, terrible thing to have to make people go through. The moment there is a hole in security measures, bad guys will do something completely insane and smuggle a bomb through. Booooom! Crash. People dead on the jet liner and then possibly people dead on the ground from the impact. Remember that one jet liner that crashed into a dense neighborhood almost 10 years ago? That example is pointed out because this DIRECTLY affects *everyone* who posts here on ATS. You might cry that security is wrong and make a big fuss about this and use it as one of your lightning rods against the current administration, and that's well and good. But, should they stop screening childrent and a bomb gets through, the next attack might result in an airliner crashing into any one of our neighborhoods. This DIRECTLY *IMPACTS* (pun intended) ***everyone.***

The world changed on 9-11. Security was increased to save lives. I loved the pre-9-11 world, especially when it came to commercial flying. The grim reality is that if there is no security, or obvious holes in it, there are evil people out there who will exploit it with deadly report. Innocents on the ground watching soap operas and posting on ATS might have a jetliner's engine crashing right on top of them and never know what hit them. A lack of security will most likely lead to an increase in funerals.

For me, I love road trips. Good old fashioned all-American road trips. There's nothing like that kind of bonding, and there's no forced decision between being irradiated or fondled.

Originally posted by kathael
Either there's too much security or when something happens there isn't enough. I agree that it is pretty much taboo for this. I work in this industry and we have been informed via internal memorandums that there was an incident in England where a mother had strapped an IED on her child, whether that's true or not or just created to condone additional screening, it's still terrible. It's really sad to see what this world is coming to..

However, I would like to add that this TSA agent went about her job very professionally and made every attempt to explain the procedure to the family and the girl as it continued, and no, it's not a drug test (like stated by the mother at 1:25). Anyways, that's just my 2 cents.

edit on 10-4-2011 by kathael because:

THE GOVERNMENT IS THE ONLY TERRORIST AND THOSE WHO WORK FOR GOVERMENT ARE TERRORISTS BY PROXY AND ASSOCIATION!!!

That being said, There never was and never has been a "terrorist" threat to ANY country other than from their government!!! When oh when will society wake up to this complete BS!!!!!!

Oh no! A pat-down! I'm gonna have an orgasm!
Seriously people. It's not just in the US. But people from all over the world get pat-downs. It's a freakin' pat-down.

reply to post by FoJAk


Dont use airplanes then, I would rather know my family were safe during the flight. So what if they pat you down, whats the big problem with that? You would probably rather noone be checked at all on these flights and when theres a bombing, or hijacking you can be there totally defenceless. I know my rights and I dont mind being pattyed down before a flight, I dont take anything illegal with me at having someone touch you isnt as awful as you seem to think. You seem to be paranoid and get all crazy if someone touches you, why do you care so much? They arnt doing you harm or causing you any distress so why do you care so much? What right dont you want to give up? The right to not be touched by someone? Please grow up, as a grown adult i'd hope that you can understand that a person can touch another without anything sinister occuring, you must be very paranoid

As i said in this thread, this post, to be exact,

I agree it's completely unnecessary and absurd and that our country is pretty screwed up, BUT.. All they are doing is conditioning him for when he grows up.

Conditioning, plain and simple.

Still disgusting, however.

Originally posted by Vanna
I have flown many times and encountered the evil TSA squad. I prevented getting groped by....walking through the metal detector

Am I missing something here? I have never once been searched, patted, groped, manhandled, or chastised by them. They don't even smile at me, let alone give me action! I have seen the lines for the metal detector walk-through and you can "opt out" of that, but by opting out, you're consenting to a search. So just...walk through. Seriously, am I missing something here?

Ummm.........Yes.....your missing the fact that those full body scanners are putting possibly lethal, (cumulatively) doses of radiation through your body.....TSA has already been forced to admit that the per session dose is tens of times greator than was advertised.......So being as you like to fly alot and are down with all the full body scanning.........dont wonder where the cancer came from.....................

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