Who was inside flight 11? Is this an Israeli Hebrew accent?

Originally posted by BRAVO949
reply to post by TrickoftheShade

 

Is there such a thing as anti-Gentile Jews?

Yes, I expect so. Just as some black people don't like white people.

It's just that, historically, the real pain has been felt mostly one way. Slavery, holocaust, things like that...

Which is why some of us politically correct socialist crazies get a bit more worried by anti-semitism than "anti-gentilism".

Originally posted by BRAVO949
reply to post by Alfie1

 

Alfie - you are the person who is making a big deal out of the fact that the Hebrew accent on the 9/11 Commission hearing

indicts Israel in the terrorist crime of September 11, 2011,

not me.

It certainly looks that way.

I mean, he's the one who keeps mentioning it in massive headline type, using the words zionist and terrorist in almost every sentence, and insisting that despite there being no evidence, we all agree that the man who hijacked the plane is a Jew.

Yep, old Alfie is obsessed.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade

Originally posted by BRAVO949
reply to post by Alfie1

 

Alfie - you are the person who is making a big deal out of the fact that the Hebrew accent on the 9/11 Commission hearing

indicts Israel in the terrorist crime of September 11, 2011,

not me.

It certainly looks that way.

I mean, he's the one who keeps mentioning it in massive headline type, using the words zionist and terrorist in almost every sentence, and insisting that despite there being no evidence, we all agree that the man who hijacked the plane is a Jew.

Yep, old Alfie is obsessed.

Thank you for the support.

I knew at least one of you would come around to my way of thinking eventually.

The accent so obvious in the video is of a native Hebrew speaker and it may well be yet another case of Zionist terrorism as you suggest.

Some people say about Israelis is they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity and that all they understand is violence but you prove that wrong.

Thanks for bringing up slavery too. I know there are lots of Jews who are sorry for their part in slavery. I don't think it is fair to say Jews dominated the African slave trade but in proporation to their numbers in general society they were very much over represented. Very much like the porn industry and human trafficing today.

Did you get a chance to watch the video in which Hebrew speakers and Arabic speakers talk about the hundreds of tanks Israel lost because the Israeli leaders were so arrogant?

I think you did watch that and it made you face the fact that the lead hijacker, who also had that arrogant Israeli tone to his voice matched the Hebrew accent on the Israel lost hundreds of tanks videos.

Thanks again.

From your post I discern that you think Jews are arrogant, violent and prone to exploiting others.

Would that be fair to say?

The objective of this thread is not to make Israel look bad but just to resolve the issue of the Hebrew accent on the recording the 9/11 Commission tells us is the lead hijacker of Flight 11 on September 11, 2001.

If any of you feel the Hebrew accent indicts Israel in the terrorist crime of 9/11 unfairly then please provide proof that the accent we hear so clearly is not a Hebrew accent.

Some supporters of Zionism and the official story, which do seemed to be linked, claim that we are requesting they prove a negative.

This of course is a false claim because any of you can prove the accent is another specific accent.

The fact that Israel is pure evil need not be part of this discussion.

Dear Thick,

Why do you insist on defaming Jews instead of addressing the linguistic question?

The root of the issue is that the voice on the recording is Hebrew.

If one Hebrew speaking Israel was the lead hijacker on September 11, 2001 that does not mean all Jews are bad.

How in the world do you make that connection.

That is like saying the Congressman Anthony Weiner is a sexual pervert so all Jews are sexual perverts.

That is just not fair.

Please stop it.

I submitted the video in which Hebrew and Arabic native speakers speak English on the subject of Israel and its problem with its military tank program to provide examples that everyone can use to match with the 9/11 recording of the Hebrew native speaker.

However, one of my goals was to show how the leaders of Israel do not know when to stop. They don't know when to quit doing something because it is not working.

The root of this problem that Israelis have, is based in arrogance.

Interestingly we see that same issue in those who post here and argue. No abliity to know when they are losing, that is.

Originally posted by BRAVO949
Dear Thick,

Why do you insist on defaming Jews instead of addressing the linguistic question?

The root of the issue is that the voice on the recording is Hebrew.

If one Hebrew speaking Israel was the lead hijacker on September 11, 2001 that does not mean all Jews are bad.

How in the world do you make that connection.

That is like saying the Congressman Anthony Weiner is a sexual pervert so all Jews are sexual perverts.

That is just not fair.

Please stop it.

You've brought this curious allegation, so in the absence of you providing any evidence I'm examining your motives.

I'm aware that if one person from a group does something bad that doesn't implicate the entire group. Indeed I think I learned this when I was about six years old. And your assertion that I'm defaming jewish people is, as you well know, facetious.

Your post seems to imply that you think that although not all Jews are arrogant, violent and exploitative, Jewish people are in some way given to such behaviours. Is that fair to say?

Israel is pure evil

Hmmm. Is it?

reply to post by BRAVO949


It is now obvious that your ghost Israeli hi-jacker, for whom you have zero evidence, has become an irrelevance. You plainly just want to vent your spleen about Jews/Israel. So polish up your photos of Adolf and Heinrich and let it go, you will feel much better. However, I would suggest not on this forum but I am sure you know several where you can exchange dreams about cattle trucks and camps.

Anyway, turning to linguistics, which I don't believe you know anything about, I found this video in which the speaker points out differences even when the first language is the same :-

www.youtube.com...

And I wondered what regional Israeli accent you had identified. Was it Tel Aviv for example, or elsewhere ?

I'll say this about the accent:

I am Jewish, I grew up in a mostly Jewish neighborhood where many were immigrants from Israel and had thick Hebrew accents. I was surrounded by that accent for almost as long as I can remember. I now live in New York and on a daily basis I interact with Arab immigrants with thick Arabic accents, as well as still interacting with those having thick Hebrew accents quite regularly. I usually cannot tell the difference between them. They are very, very similar. The two languages are so close they often share very many of the same words, or words that are very nearly the same.

Assuming that is Atta in that audio clip, he apparently speaks English very fluently (he was highly educated). The more fluently someone speaks English with one of these accents, the harder it probably would be to determine which accent it is.

Originally posted by LifeInDeath
I'll say this about the accent:

I am Jewish, I grew up in a mostly Jewish neighborhood where many were immigrants from Israel and had thick Hebrew accents. I was surrounded by that accent for almost as long as I can remember. I now live in New York and on a daily basis I interact with Arab immigrants with thick Arabic accents, as well as still interacting with those having thick Hebrew accents quite regularly. I usually cannot tell the difference between them. They are very, very similar. The two languages are so close they often share very many of the same words, or words that are very nearly the same.

Assuming that is Atta in that audio clip, he apparently speaks English very fluently (he was highly educated). The more fluently someone speaks English with one of these accents, the harder it probably would be to determine which accent it is.

edit on 6/15/2011 by LifeInDeath because: (no reason given)

Well, LifeInDeath, I very much appreciate your contribution.

You give your opinion and you back up your opinion with background information and reasoning.

That is all anyone can ask from a post.

I don't totally agree with you but I certainly understand you point and it is a reasonable point.

I wish others would have at least talked about language, accents and why they feel the way they do.

reply to post by BRAVO949


Ok, I've identified the voice :-

www.youtube.com...

My belief it that Cassius and Bravo are in the midst of turning the events of September 11 into a hit Broadway musical called SpamtheNetalot.
The only problem is you won't succeed on Broadway if you don't have any ...

Originally posted by BRAVO949
Well, LifeInDeath, I very much appreciate your contribution.

You give your opinion and you back up your opinion with background information and reasoning.

That is all anyone can ask from a post.

I don't totally agree with you but I certainly understand you point and it is a reasonable point.

I wish others would have at least talked about language, accents and why they feel the way they do.

I went back and checked your original post about the linguistics. While I can't argue with someone on points about that area of expertise (I have no special training in that arena), I will address one point you make about the lack of a "P" sound in Arabic:

Again, I mention that whoever is speaking on the recording does not have an overly strong accent - they sound to me like someone who has either spent a lot of time in the West or who is well educated and possibly trained in the language (or another Western language) extensively. I think that both were true of Atta, just going by the Wikepedia bio of his (yeah I know, easily messed with, but that's all I've got). It says he was a top student at Cairo University, which is pretty much the top University in the Muslim world, if I'm not mistaken. He then studied English at the American University in Cairo. Then, he of course spent many years in Germany, which would have given him immersion in a culture that speaks a language that has that particular sound. So to me it seems not at all unreasonable that he would easily be able to use that particular sound in his speech.

Who is doing the spamming here? I didnt post any unrelated speeches of Churchill.

Everybody else can look up the Audio in the OP, the audio of hebrew accents provided on PAGE 2 and that of arab accents provided on PAGE 5 and draw their own conclusions.

reply to post by Cassius666


If you truly want to understand what happened on that horrific day, look into the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair, and the King David Hotel to name only a few events.


Never forget the five dancing Israelis across the river on that day. While someone's father fell 80 stories to his death, they were laughing. When someone's mother was engulfed in flames and burned alive, these Israelis were "high-fiving" each other. Who benefited from this terror attack?

Here is just an impartial list that only goes up until 2004 of hostility committed against the United States of America and the American people by what the media calls "our greatest ally:"

1947. Information collected by the ADL in its spy operations on US citizens is used by the House Select Committee on Unamerican Activities. Subcommittee Chair Clare Hoffman dismisses the ADL's reports on suspected communists as hearsay."

1950 John Davitt, former chief of the Justice Department's internal security section notes that the Israeli intelligence service is the second most active in the United States after the Soviets.

1954 A hidden microphone planted by the Israelis is discovered in the Office of the US Ambassador in Tel Aviv.

1956 Telephone taps are found connected to two telephones in the residence of the US military attach in Tel Aviv.

1954 "The Lavon Affair". Israeli agents recruit Egyptian citizens of Jewish descent to bomb Western targets in Egypt, and plant evidence to frame Arabs, in an apparent attempt to upset US-Egyptian relations. Israeli defense minister Pinchas Lavon is eventually removed from office, though many think real responsibility lay with David Ben-Gurion.

1965 Israel apparently illegally obtains enriched uranium from NUMEC Corporation. ( Washington Post, 6/5/86, Charles R. Babcock, "US an Intelligence Target of the Israelis, Officials Say.")

1967 Israel attacks the USS Liberty, an intelligence gathering vessel flying a US flag, killing 34 crew members. See "Assault on the Liberty," by James M. Ennes, Jr. (Random House). In 2004, Captain Ward Boston, Senior Legal Counsel for the Navy's Court of Inquiry into the attack swears under oath that President Lyndon Johnson ordered the investigation to conclude accident, even though the evidence indicates the attack was deliberate. Given the use by Israel of unmarked boats and planes, and the machine-gunning of USS Liberty's lifeboats, the most likely explanation is that USS Liberty was to be sunk with all hands, with evidence left to frame Egypt for the sinking. This would have dragged the US into the war on Israel's side.

1970 While working for Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson, Richard Perle is caught by the FBI giving classified information to Israel. Nothing is done.

1978, Stephen Bryen, then a Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffer, is overheard in a DC hotel offering confidential documents to top Israeli military officials. Bryen obtains a lawyer, Nathan Lewin, and the case heads for the grand jury, but is mysteriously dropped. Bryen later goes to work for Richard Perle.

1979 Shin Beth [the Israeli internal security agency] tries to penetrate the US Consulate General in Jerusalem through a "Honey Trap", using a clerical employee who was having an affair with a Jerusalem girl.

1985 The New York Times reports the FBI is aware of at least a dozen incidents in which American officials transferred classified information to the Israelis, quoting [former Assistant Director of the F.B.I.] Mr. [Raymond] Wannal. The Justice Department does not prosecute.

1985 Richard Smyth, the owner of MILCO, is indicted on charges of smuggling nuclear timing devices to Israel ( Washington Post, 10/31/86).

1987 April 24 Wall Street Journal headline: "Role of Israel in Iran-Contra Scandal Won't be Explored in Detail by Panels"

1992 The Wall Street Journal reports that Israeli agents apparently tried to steal Recon Optical Inc's top-secret airborne spy-camera system.

1992 Stephen Bryen, caught offering confidential documents to Israel in 1978, is serving on board of the pro-Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs while continuing as a paid consultant -- with security clearance -- on exports of sensitive US technology.

1992 "The Samson Option," by Seymour M. Hersh reports, illicitly obtained intelligence was flying so voluminously from LAKAM into Israeli intelligence that a special code name, JUMBO, was added to the security markings already on the documents. There were strict orders, Ari Ben-Menashe recalled: "Anything marked JUMBO was not supposed to be discussed with your American counterparts."

1993. The ADL is caught operating a massive spying operation on critics of Israel, Arab-Americans, the San Francisco Labor Council, ILWU Local 10, Oakland Educational Association, NAACP, Irish Northern Aid, International Indian Treaty Council, the Asian Law Caucus and the San Francisco police. Data collected was sent to Israel and in some cases to South Africa. Pressure from Jewish organizations forces the city to drop the criminal case, but the ADL settles a civil lawsuit for an undisclosed sum of cash.

1995 The Defense Investigative Service circulates a memo warning US military contractors that " Israel aggressively collects [ US] military and industrial technology." The report stated that Israel obtains information using "ethnic targeting, financial aggrandizement, and identification and exploitation of individual frailties" of US citizens.

1996 A General Accounting Office report "Defense Industrial Security: Weaknesses in US Security Arrangements With Foreign-Owned Defense Contractors" found that according to intelligence sources "Country A" (identified by intelligence sources as Israel, Washington Times, 2/22/96) "conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally." The Jerusalem Post (8/30/96) quoted the report, "Classified military information and sensitive military technologies are high-priority targets for the intelligence agencies of this country." The report described "An espionage operation run by the intelligence organization responsible for collecting scientific and technologic information for [ Israel] paid a US government employee to obtain US classified military intelligence documents." The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (Shawn L. Twing, April 1996) noted that this was "a reference to the 1985 arrest of Jonathan Pollard, a civilian US naval intelligence analyst who provided Israel's LAKAM [Office of Special Tasks] espionage agency an estimated 800,000 pages of classified US intelligence information."

The GAO report also noted that "Several citizens of [ Israel] were caught in the United States stealing sensitive technology used in manufacturing artillery gun tubes."

1996 An Office of Naval Intelligence document, "Worldwide Challenges to Naval Strike Warfare" reported that " US technology has been acquired [by China] through Israel in the form of the Lavi fighter and possibly SAM [surface-to-air] missile technology." Jane's Defense Weekly (2/28/96) noted that "until now, the intelligence community has not openly confirmed the transfer of US technology [via Israel] to China." The report noted that this "represents a dramatic step forward for Chinese military aviation." (Flight International, 3/13/96)

1997 An Army mechanical engineer, David A. Tenenbaum, "inadvertently" gives classified military information on missile systems and armored vehicles to Israeli officials (New York Times, 2/20/97).

1997 The Washington Post reports US intelligence has intercepted a conversation in which two Israeli officials had discussed the possibility of getting a confidential letter that then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher had written to Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat. One of the Israelis, identified only as Dov, had commented that they may get the letter from Mega, the code name for Israel's top agent inside the United States.

1997 US ambassador to Israel, Martin Indyk, complains privately to the Israeli government about heavy-handed surveillance by Israeli intelligence agents.

1997 Israeli agents place a tap on Monica Lewinsky's phone at the Watergate and record phone sex sessions between her and President Bill Clinton. The Ken Starr report confirms that Clinton warned Lewinsky their conversations were being taped and ended the affair. At the same time, the FBI's hunt forMega is called off.

2001 It is discovered that US drug agent's communications have been penetrated. Suspicion falls on two companies, AMDOCS and Comverse Infosys, both owned by Israelis. AMDOCS generates billing data for most US phone companies and is able to provide detailed logs of who is talking to whom. Comverse Infosys builds the tapping equipment used by law enforcement to eavesdrop on all American telephone calls, but suspicion forms that Comverse, which gets half of its research and development budget from the Israeli government, has built a back door into the system that is being exploited by Israeli intelligence and that the information gleaned on US drug interdiction efforts is finding its way to drug smugglers. The investigation by the FBI leads to the exposure of the largest foreign spy ring ever uncovered inside the United States, operated by Israel. Half of the suspected spies have been arrested when 9-11 happens. On 9-11, 5 Israelis are arrested for dancing and cheering while the World Trade Towers collapse. Supposedly employed by Urban Moving Systems, the Israelis are caught with multiple passports and a lot of cash. Two of them are later revealed to be Mossad. As witness reports track the activity of the Israelis, it emerges that they were seen at Liberty Park at the time of the first impact, suggesting a foreknowledge of what was to come. The Israelis are interrogated, and then eventually sent back to Israel. The owner of the moving company used as a cover by the Mossad agents abandons his business and flees to Israel. The United States Government then classifies all of the evidence related to the Israeli agents and their connections to 9-11. All of this is reported to the public via a four part story on Fox News by Carl Cameron. Pressure from Jewish groups, primarily AIPAC, forces Fox News to remove the story from their website. Two hours prior to the 9-11 attacks, Odigo, an Israeli company with offices just a few blocks from the World Trade Towers, receives an advance warning via the internet. The manager of the New York Office provides the FBI with the IP address of the sender of the message, but the FBI does not follow up.



www.whatreallyhappened.com...



2001 The FBI is investigating 5 Israeli moving companies as possible fronts for Israeli intelligence.

2001 JDL's Irv Rubin arrested for planning to bomb a US Congressman. He dies before he can be brought to trial.

2002 The DEA issues a report that Israeli spies, posing as art students, have been trying to penetrate US Government offices.

2002 police near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station in southern Washington State stop a suspicious truck and detain two Israelis, one of whom is illegally in the United States. The two men were driving at high speed in a Ryder rental truck, which they claimed had been used to "deliver furniture." The next day, police discovered traces of TNT and RDX military-grade plastic explosives inside the passenger cabin and on the steering wheel of the vehicle. The FBI then announces that the tests that showed explosives were false positives by cigarette smoke, a claim test experts say is ridiculous. Based on an alibi provided by a woman, the case is closed and the Israelis are handed over to INS to be sent back to Israel. One week later, the woman who provided the alibi vanishes.

2003 The Police Chief of Cloudcroft stops a truck speeding through a school zone. The drivers turn out to be Israelis with expired passports. Claiming to be movers, the truck contains junk furniture and several boxes. The Israelis are handed over to immigration. The contents of the boxers are not revealed to the public.

2003 Israel deploys assassination squads into other countries, including the United States. The US Government does not protest.

2004 Police near the Nuclear Fuel Services plant in Tennessee stop a truck after a three mile chase, during which the driver throws a bottle containing a strange liquid from the cab. The drivers turn out to be Israelis using fake Ids. The FBI refuses to investigate and the Israelis are released.

2004 Two Israelis try to enter Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, home to eight Trident submarines. The truck tests positive for explosives.


The star of David is the star of Rephan. They adhere to the Jewish Talmud which teaches Jesus is burning in hell in his own excrement and that it is their duty to cheat, rob, and steal from the goyim. Do not take my word for it. Investigate all of this thoroughly. God Bless!

reply to post by Cassius666


Have you not yet picked up on the idea yet that languages don't have accents as you are presenting them, people have accents. They are marked by regional, environmental, educational and socio-economic conditions and histories. The idea that you can listen to a few seconds of a poor recording of a person speaking a language other than their native language and pinpoint there native language, particularly when the two languages may be closely related is just ridiculous. "Arabic" and "Hebrew" accents is a movie concept.

This is the part now where you accuse me of calling you a nazi.

Originally posted by LifeInDeath

Originally posted by BRAVO949

Well, LifeInDeath, I very much appreciate your contribution.

You give your opinion and you back up your opinion with background information and reasoning.

That is all anyone can ask from a poster.

I don't totally agree with you but I certainly understand youy point and it is a reasonable point.

I wish others would have at least talked about language, accents and why they feel the way they do.

I went back and checked your original post about the linguistics. While I can't argue with someone on points about that area of expertise (I have no special training in that arena), I will address one point you make about the lack of a "P" sound in Arabic:

Again, I mention that whoever is speaking on the recording does not have an overly strong accent - they sound to me like someone who has either spent a lot of time in the West or who is well educated and possibly trained in the language (or another Western language) extensively. I think that both were true of Atta, just going by the Wikepedia bio of his (yeah I know, easily messed with, but that's all I've got). It says he was a top student at Cairo University, which is pretty much the top University in the Muslim world, if I'm not mistaken. He then studied English at the American University in Cairo. Then, he of course spent many years in Germany, which would have given him immersion in a culture that speaks a language that has that particular sound. So to me it seems not at all unreasonable that he would easily be able to use that particular sound in his speech.

Life - Again, I appeciate the fact you are addressing the actual issue and are providing thoughtful reasons for your claims.

With regard to Wiki. The less controversial a subject is the more you can rely on Wiki but I don't have much of an issue when it come to the Wiki description of the man the official story calls M. Atta. I just think they are talking about two different men. Two totally different men, in this case.

I mentioned this in an earlier post but I will repeat it here. If you read the description of the conservative loner M. Atta in Egypt and then in Germany who reads the Quran and never has a girlfriend compared to the description of him in Florida with a stripper girlfriend, gambling, using drugs and drinking it is hard to believe we are reading about the same person.

Life - Even if you look at the various pictures of the man they claim is M. Atta he does not look the same.

Now, let me bring this back to the accent. There is no trace of German in the accent on the recording, at all. If the person speaking was a man who had lived in Germany for almost all of his adult life you would be right that we should be able to hear something of a German influence but we don't.

Is the following true? I don't know.

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[Mohamed Atta] spoke excellent German - good enough to correct other students' texts - as well as fluent English and Arabic. [FT.com]

Atta and two other suspected hijackers reported their passports stolen in late 1999. [BBC News]

[Rudi Dekkers, owner of Huffman Aviation] knew that Atta had lived in Hamburg, Germany and one day [in 2000] spoke to him in German as a way of friendly communication. Atta was stunned and quickly walked away. [house.gov]

An imposter could pretend to be Atta, but he couldn't pretend to speak German.
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The above is from here... m911t.blogspot.com...

I have to add though that Rudi Dekkers was Dutch. Dutch is close to German and he may have been able to speak German. I am not saying that is true for sure but here is another story related to speaking to Atta in German.

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According to Renford, on the day after the attack a reporter from the New York Times asked Dekkers about reports that the two men (Atta and Al-Shehhi) were from Germany.

"Didn't it strike you as odd that they were from Germany? They didn't look German, did they?"

"Don't tell me what people tell you," Dekkers barked in response. "I have never heard that they're from Germany. I have never heard that they speak German." Renford wrote.

"Dekkers gave a different answer on Larry King Live. Now he did know where they were from ... Dekkers now recalled that Atta told him he had come from Germany. But when Dekkers, a Dutch native, began speaking to Atta in German, the Middle Eastern man just got up and walked out of his office. Dekkers said he found it odd."

"Whereas on Wednesday he'd blasted a reporter for asking about a German connection," wrote Renford, "on Thursday he told me an anecdote about one of the suspects saying he was German."

"Dekkers wasn't just remembering new details," she concluded. "He was learning how to tell a story."
***

The above is from here... www.naderlibrary.com...

What does this mean? Either Dekkers is a liar and we should not believe anything he says or the man the FBI tells us is the M. Atta from Germany is not.

I have a feeling that if I said the voice did not sound like the accent of an Arabic speaker from Egypt but it sounded exactly like a Arabic speaker from Yemen and that the man on the plane was not the Egyptian who had lived in Germany but a Yemani who took the identity of the Egyptian and could show evidence for that nobody would argue with me.

Lots of people can tell a Dutch accent from a Danish accent from a South African accent after hearing just a few words even though there is a similartiy in each of them. On the other hand many Americans can not tell a German accent from a Scottish accent. It is like being color blind or not color blind. Some people just have no ear for languages.

The man we hear in the recording has a crisp clear voice. He has a distinct Hebrew accent and sounds like he was in the military. There are reports that claim that this man was a well trained pilot before he ever arrived in the US who was qualified to fly in several countries which does not match the M. Atta from Germany who was an introverted urban planner.

Remember, English is the international language of aviation. I would day this man has a strong accent but he is very easy to understand and his grammar is very good. He sure is not applying German grammar to English in the recording either.

reply to post by digginapony


Brilliant!

Thanks for the post.

If you have a moment get into the details of "The Samson Option" you mentioned.

It dawned on me that Israel may have actually launched the "The Samson Option" and 9/11 was the start of it.

I posted earlier that I did not think the Israeli goverment pulled off 9/11 but that even more radical elements in the Israeli intel / military did, backed by just as radical American Zionist ideologues like Willian Kristol, Donald Kagan, Richard Perle, Wurmser, Wolfowitz along with a few Americans sucked into the evil plot.

We know one thing. They are capable of a terrorist attack on the scale of 9/11. They will kill one innocent person or 3,000 without a second thought.

The reason I doubted that the Israeli government planned and executed 9/11 is because they have so much to lose.

However, contrary to the picture the American media paints, Israel is in serious trouble. Demographics are one issue and another is that is just does not have an economy that can pay for the military they have. In an era of free-trade zones Israel is left out because it has been attacking is neighbors for 60 years and the Europeans know what sort of human rights violators they are.

Maybe Israel did plan 9/11 because without it and without the US and half the world hammering the Muslim world into the ground on behalf of Israel, Israel would be finished. Well, it is anyway but they have stalled the final act of the play by 20 years or so.

Maybe Israel figured that even if it got caught carrying out 9/11 it would be no more wiped off the map than if it simply lost the demographic battle or went bankrupt financially.

I know the goofs who ask stupid questions and make amateurs claims on this thread think that people like me have an agenda so are trying to prove that the accent is Hebrew.

No, that is their M. O. I never even considered Israel as the main force behind 9/11 until I noticed that this recording is 100% an Israel accent then I found all the other evidence over several years.

Everything about 9/11 starts to make sense when you make Israel the prime suspect. Israel has been trying to get the US to attack Iraq since 1976 and the finally found away to do it.

"They" have to destroy the internet because "their" crimes are so obvious when individuals searching for the truth help each other find and fit together the bits and parts like you just did.

reply to post by BRAVO949


So the Mohamed Atta who was a member of the Hamburg Cell had metamorphosed into Israeli military by the time he boarded AA 11 ?

Sounds much more reasonable than that you just don't have a clue about the supposed accent in that recording !

The inevitable logic of your claim would be that all 18 other hi-jackers had also similarly metamorphosed would'nt it ?