ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits & troublemakers, all you free-spirits & pioneers...

reply to post by KrypticCriminal


I'm not a kid. I have kids. I don't get the luxury of "rejecting the system," or whatever crap you are spewing here with your fake little anarchy cheeseburgers. I have to work inside the system, to reform it. I can't afford to collect guns and ammo and masturbate to disaster porn. I have a family that relies on me, in the here and now, to make THIS work for them.

I'd love a resource based economy, but it isn't going to happen until we all realize that "stealing from everyone who isn't like me" isn't going to kick start anything except a backlash.

I like the video, and believe what the video preaches is true;

however...it's all just marketing for a book. Don't be duped by stuff like this.

All these dismissals based on "money grubbing"
it makes me pity those ATS members.
Their mind is so colonized by their
corporate masters that any Joe
who tries to make any money
is automatically bad.

Good thing your blindness is not contagious.

I have a question.
If only professional musicians with corporate sponsers
have the right to charge money for their work

then tell me
Who is the artist that recorded this song?



Do you know.
Do you even care.
That high ground you think you're standing on
the one that gives you the right to condemn anyone for commoditizing their message
looks like quicksand to me.


David Grouchy

p.s. I'll be shocked if anyone can guess who sang this. Wanna talk about someone who was systematically erased for rebelling against the NWO. It doesn't get any better than this. And all the dismissals are classic cases of minds colonized by their masters.

reply to post by 0zzymand0s


So basicaly your a willing participant who flirts with the idea of something better. I dont get why you have be so aggressive in your reply. Whats the matter? Has the realisation that you dont have the balls to do anything, hit you. As for guns and masterbating over disater vids. i disagree with that whole aproach myself so what are you trying to imply. You cant fight fire with fire in this situation. Like i said before, either reject the system completely or forget it. Non of this changing the system from within BS is going to work. You would be a perfect example to that fact.

reply to post by de1111codEiT

I will check the link but while we struggle to get out of the box, the box is getting smaller. It's not enough to control anymore it is to make one consciousness. I am a definite power on all issues I think I can influence but that is too limiting. I need to influence more open minds to THE possibilities. Do not let your mind become a prison.Signed VERY FRUSTRATED !

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
All these dismissals based on "money grubbing"
it makes me pity those ATS members.
Their mind is so colonized by their
corporate masters that any Joe
who tries to make any money
is automatically bad.

Yes, anyone who tries to make money off of a message of spirituality IS bad. You cannot sell the spiritual for the material. Money is the corrupting factor of the system which enslaves mankind.

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
Good thing your blindness is not contagious.

It isn't blindness to see that you cannot throw down the system by perpetuating it for your own self gain. How can one speak of the division, selfishness, and oppression in the world while still remaining part of the very system that breeds division, selfishness, and oppression? That is called being a hypocrite.

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
I have a question.
If only professional musicians with corporate sponsers
have the right to charge money for their work

then tell me
Who is the artist that recorded this song?

I do not know who the artist is. That is a good thing. Who sends the message is not important in a sincere message.

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
p.s. I'll be shocked if anyone can guess who sang this. Wanna talk about someone who was systematically erased for rebelling against the NWO. It doesn't get any better than this. And all the dismissals are classic cases of minds colonized by their masters.

Wonderful, someone sacrificed in the battle against the NWO. That is what it is going to take my friend. You do not suppose they are going to say "Ok, we will leave since you do not want us!".

No, it is going to take people willing to sacrifice, not for personal gain, but for the collective gain of future generations.

They will go nameless, but they will be known by the fruits of their labors.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by davidgrouchy

p.s. I'll be shocked if anyone can guess who sang this. Wanna talk about someone who was systematically erased for rebelling against the NWO. It doesn't get any better than this. And all the dismissals are classic cases of minds colonized by their master

Sounds like Prince to me......perfect example of someone who had his career destoyed for fighting back against TPTB.....

p.s. I'll be shocked if anyone can guess who sang this. Wanna talk about someone who was systematically erased for rebelling against the NWO. It doesn't get any better than this. And all the dismissals are classic cases of minds colonized by their master

Originally posted by MountainLaurel

Sounds like [color=gold]Prince to me......perfect example of someone who had his career destoyed for fighting back against TPTB.....

We have a winner.

I have been empowered to grant you one wish.
What would you like.
U2U is fine.


David Grouchy

I was immediately taken in by the message of the Wayseer Manifesto. I found it inspiring. I remembered I had seen it talked about somewhere before. It was on the "signs of the times" website. The article was titled, "Wayseer Manifesto" - Selling Freedom or Selling Psychopathy? I was immediately disappointed that they were questioning the Wayseer's message, as I thought it was pretty awesome. But as I read their article, I began to see the logic of their points. I'm not sure if anyone already referenced this article, apologies if so.

Psychopaths seek to collect followers to feed their egos, and emotional manipulations of this sort are one of the chief ways they do it. The only defense is to employ your prefrontal cortex, the very thing this video is instructing you to ignore.

"Your impulsivity is a gift. Impulses are your key to the miraculous. Your distractibility is an artifact of your inspired creativity."

Impulsivity and distractibility are increasingly common traits among many people today, and this behavior can often be traced to an over-exposure to a toxic environment; toxic foods, toxic media, electromagnetic pollution, toxic building materials, toxic education, toxic medications. The world is filled with pollution that prevents our minds from working properly. But instead of advising you how to recognize and cut out these poisons, this video is instead telling you that these symptoms of toxicity are actually evidence that you are special and magical.

"These are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries, innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets, mavericks, philosophers, derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders, prophets and saints, mystics and change agents."

Nonsense. The narrator has just blended ADDers, psychopaths, sociopaths and other disturbed people into a single group, mixed desirable and undesirable traits together to come up with "a single type of personality". Sex addicts, alcoholics and procrastinators are not in the same league as Ghandi and JFK and our other visionaries. Why? Because being a visionary takes WORK and focus. This is just a cheap way to trick people into thinking that they have already achieved the best versions of themselves; that they do not have any work left to do on their bodies and minds. Why would somebody urge you to take the path of least resistance like that? Maybe it is because that by working on oneself, growing strong and aware, one is able to see through the illusions presented in this video.

The author of the article, who I know little about, makes many points such as these as she examines the words of the message step by step. I can't believe that I didn't see any of these points myself. I feel totally duped. There are a lot of things about the "wayseer manifesto" that really appeal to me. But there is also a lot of questionable content as well.

Link

reply to post by davidgrouchy


Hmmmm....a wish huh?

Well my wish would be that we all just refuse to play anymore, put all the play money back in the box, that game was always boring anyways. If you win what do you have "EVERYTHING" gee how fun, just crushed everyone else in the game!

I say take all your assets, liquidate, pay off everything or sell while you still can. Live a simpler life, grow your own food as much as possible. Trade for sevices as much as possible, educate, share and be an example to everyone around you.

That is a wish that could come true if enough people wanted it to....

Whew, I almost wasted close to 10 minutes of my life, but thankfully I hit the back button after about 25 seconds of that awful ass video attempt at raging against the machine.

Here is a gent who "Gets it"...





for FREE

reply to post by IAMIAM


I agree with you IAMIAM,

And don`t call us negative, because we do not agree with you

Originally posted by ShawHawk
I agree with you IAMIAM, the guy just spoken my thoughts.

And don`t call us negative, because we do not agree with you

I apologise if I insinuated anywhere that I was calling anyone "negative". I do not use such terminology for anyone as I do not believe in positive or negative. There are only different points of view, of which we can only share our own.

With Love,

Your Brother

If I had a powerful message to share that everyone needed to hear, I'd offer it as a free ebook, on a donation basis. I would encourage everyone to read it first, and then make a donation based on what it was worth to them. More people might read it, and I may even do better, overall, than trying to sell books @ $40 a pop.

Half the people in here could write such a book. Just update and rephrase the wisdom-literature from over the last 2,000 years, add a little humor, throw in a few anecdotes, juice it up with snazzy graphics and memorable catch-phrases, and away you go. So, make a buck. If it pays the bills, and numbs the pain and makes people feel better about themselves, and the world, so much the better.

Survival is not a moral dilemma.

Is it?

[Sarcasm Detector: ON/OFF]

reply to post by IAMIAM


True spoken, just wanted to clear up the matter:

I agree with what you have spoken IAMIAM, peace

This thread, is a intresting one, teaches many different perpectives and ways to vieuw such a video

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
All these dismissals based on "money grubbing"
it makes me pity those ATS members.
Their mind is so colonized by their
corporate masters that any Joe
who tries to make any money
is automatically bad.

Money is the root of all evil. Eliminate a monetary system, and we have peace. Everyone wants a buck, if we get rid of that mentality, we have progress. Until that's instilled (which it never will be, barring a celestial event that wipes out records of humanity), I turn my back to anyone who wants money.

People who do stuff like this play on the weaknesses of others. He makes you feel like you "belong" in order to get you to buy his book. I'd bet his book is chalk full of more of the same that's in his video, ableit his own spin on it.

If he's such a free-spirit, free-thinker, why doesn't he offer his book for free? Why did he kill millions of trees to print his book? There are alternatives, ebooks, PDF's, ways to publish without harming the environment.

Read between the lines, and you will get the BS.

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
All these dismissals based on "money grubbing"
it makes me pity those ATS members.
Their mind is so colonized by their
corporate masters that any Joe
who tries to make any money
is automatically bad.

Good thing your blindness is not contagious.

I have a question.
If only professional musicians with corporate sponsers
have the right to charge money for their work

then tell me
Who is the artist that recorded this song?

Do you know.
Do you even care.
That high ground you think you're standing on
the one that gives you the right to condemn anyone for commoditizing their message
looks like quicksand to me.

David Grouchy

p.s. I'll be shocked if anyone can guess who sang this. Wanna talk about someone who was systematically erased for rebelling against the NWO. It doesn't get any better than this. And all the dismissals are classic cases of minds colonized by their masters.

edit on 6-4-2011 by davidgrouchy because: spelling

Indeed.
Great song.
"Colonized Mind" by Prince.

Originally posted by DocEmrick

Money is the root of all evil.

Is it?
Do more research.
Quit spouting hearsay.
You have misquoted a famous saying.
And misquoted it very very badly, like an amature.


David grouchy

Originally posted by IAMIAM
Here is a gent who "Gets it"...

for FREE

I think this is probably worthy of a thread of its own. It actually contains some real insight that people really could benefit from.