Man Jailed For Getting Underage Girl Pregnant . . . with a twist

What about the mother ? You're kidding , right ? She could be a dead head with no parenting skills or on crack but she did know what was going on was wrong , she did try to break them up and she involved the law . Doesn't matter if she doesn't have the good sense that God gave horses or has the IQ of Einstein it gives no 25 year old pedophile the right to rape her 15 year old daughter and get her pregnant as he was likely going out with her when she was 14 . As for carding a girl before having sex with her , this particular guy didn't , wouldn't have and knew her age . Yes girls seem to physically mature early but a 15 year old isn't on the emotion level to make critical decision while this creep was . 9.9 times out of 10 you should be able to tell a 14/15 year old from an 18/19 year old and if you can't , go ahead and card her or keep your pathetic perverted peck*r in your pants and move on to someone legal and within your own age group . Where does 14/15 put her , 9th grade maybe going into 10th when this 25 year old predator spotted her ? Would some of you condone that if she was your sister , forget it , you probably would . It's sick and it's criminal and to blame the mother is to dodge the real issue of a pervert taking control of the body of a young girl who is neither mentally nor emotionally prepared for the actions or the consequences .

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Pedophilia is sexual attraction for prepubescent children. At 15 years, it is not pedophilia, she is already well into puberty. Age of consent is 14-15 years in lots of developed countries.

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Whoa, man, calm down. Nobody here was condoning his actions.

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None of which are excuses for endagngering a child and accessory to a felony.




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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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None of which are excuses for endagngering a child and accessory to a felony.

I think your thread may have experienced less friction and bickering if you stated that this case is another example of how poor and broken the American Justice System is.

Just seems like you beat around the bush and sent mixed signals in my opinion.

how is this any different from a 70 year old bloke or golden girl picking a 40 year younger mate

if anything its age discrimination with a hypocrittical strawman twist

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For the second time.

She tried to keep them apart.

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Because they both would be consentual adults and it's no one's business at that point.

This girl was underage.

If they had had sex in Hawaii, she would have been legal at 15, so no,he is not a pedophile.it's STATE law not federal. When I lived in Hawaii, lots of 15 and 16 year old girls hit on me, I was 23 at the time, But I never had sex with them, not that they were "too young" or that it was illegal. I knew better then mess with the "natives" had it been white girls I would have in a heartbeat (If they were as cute). It took me a long time to become friends with them,and I valued their friendship and still do.

The law in Hawaii may have changed since 81-83 but back then it WAS legal, so that kinda blows the whole "moral" thing don't it????

Edit to add: I have no children, by choice, never had any either by any woman I've slept with, Parents, in the modern world, are all child abusers in my opinion, cause NO ONE gets out alive

I hate when people condem the mother with # like this without knowing anything about the case. She may or may not have done enough, but a 15 year old girl cant be tied up in her room by her mother. If the girl wants to get out then she'll find a way. The way you are talking about it its like you misread it and think the mother approved of it!

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a 23 year old wanting to get with a 15 year old even if the law states its legal is wrong imo and im a lot more open minded than most people in general. A girl at 15 is still a child, they might want to be more grown up and do more grown up things but that doesnt make them so. Why would a 23 year old want to do anything with a 15 year old no matter how 'cute' they are?!?!

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er becaue she is a child!?!? Age discrimination?!?! Does that mean a 40 year old should be able to date a 10 year old?!!? ofcoarse not!

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Clint ,what part of "they hit on me" confused you???

was that intentional on your part,or are you projecting? sound like you either lack reading skills or, you wish it would have been you. aside from the fact I already stated I didn't have sex with them, and the fact that it was NOT illegal even if I had.

You weren't there so how can you say you "wouldn't have" you say that now, way after the fact.but change a few parameters in your life and you would find nothing wrong with it at all..


Morality is not law as law is not moral

Perhaps the girl was mature, and the guy was an idiot.

I'd call that a match, not a crime.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
The article says nothing about any of that. The article DOES state that the mother knew of the relationship.

It doesn't say anything about the young mother being on Welfare, either, but it fit your agenda, so you added it in. I'm saying you can't legally blame people for something someone else does.

But I do say that the mother should be facing charges as well.

You're certainly free to have that opinion. I disagree with it.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
The twist is that the police and courts knee-jerk and goes off on the man, while saying nothing of the mother.

How do you know their reaction is "knee-jerk"? Another convenient 'fact' to add to the story?

Hell . . . the people who "deny ignorance" are sheeple after all. Look at this thread for proof. There is your twist.

So, you write a thread stating your unpopular opinion, and that makes the rest of us ignorant "sheeple".

OK.

The thing is, if the mother knew about their relationship, and it is illegal according to law, shouldnt she had informed police? If you know about crime happening and do not inform police, it may be punishable.

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Did she contact the authorities?

Logic would tell us no, as he has no criminal record.

Telling the guy not to be around her daughter is not "trying."

If she were serious about trying, this man would have been behind bars a year ago.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm saying you can't legally blame people for something someone else does.

Accessory to a Felony

Endangering a Child





End of argument.

Having read what was written and the story there are a few things that can be stated:
The suspect is guilty, of statutory rape, as the child, at the time is a minor, and in most states, the age of consent is 18. He does deserve to go to jail for that crime, along with all of the punishments that come up from such. The mother too is guilty, as she has an obligation to look after her child till that child turns 18. While she can not do the things, as they did in her time, she did have the means to stop this relationship before it got to the point of where the child is not pregnant. She could have called the police and could have had him arrested a long time before the girl got pregnant. While we can not determine if the girl or her mother will go on welfare, or what their circumstances are, the point is that this is a tragedy that is repeated over and over around the world, older man, younger underage female getting involved. And who is to blame? Society, the parents or the men who go after the younger women, or could it be all of the above. Ultimately the other question is what of the baby itself, what rights will it have once born, and who is going to take care of it. The childs mother is going to have to help raise that child, along with providing support for her daughter and her grandchild, and that is a real shame. While this is not a good situation, it does raise other questions that the article does not go into, such as how did the 2 of them meet and how did it progress? It is obvious that the child is sexually active, as is the guy, did he give her more than just a child, along with how many other girls has he done this too? Those kinds of things should be the real question at hand, not just the act itself. While he offered to take responsibility and care for both the child and the baby, that was rejected by the parent, that too is a real shame, as now the financial burden will be on the parent of the child, and the guy is not having to really pay for anything, beyond doing time in a jail or prison, with no real recourse for the parent. And who is too say he will not flee the country or take the girl with him somewhere else? This should be also of concern for the county and have they done a paternity test to verify it is his child? Too many questions that are not answered, and that leaves many questioning.

The guy is not a pedophile, it is only in recent years that many states have raised thier age of consent. Many states like Californian had age of consent at 14. What good does putting the guy in jail do? He is willing to take care of the child but now he won't be able to.

Not many years ago women married as early as 14, and on average 16 to 18. Not saying it is a good idea today however I do not see the point in putting him in jail now after the fact. If the mother was so worried she should have called the police right away.

And to those who say "if it was my daughter" I say then you failed to teach your daughter at an early age your values because this girl was a willing partner so it was not rape.