The Greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind

reply to post by TerribleTeam2


I'd like you to prove anything....anything at all to me because the truth is that you can't...

Well, technically you cna prove one thing and one thing only. All else is accepted on faith. Almost everything you believe to be true, you accept on faith.

Me, I am personally against most organized religion. I think that connection with totality is a personal experience, but you are a fool if you somehow think that religious texts are any less credible than modern historical texts or even modern scientific texts for the most part.

Jaden

reply to post by Masterjaden


Well mate, I can prove more than 1 thing. I can prove that I exist. I can prove that John F. Kennedy existed. I can prove that his brother, Robert Kennedy existed. I can prove that ALOT of elements exist, like Oxygen, Hydrogen, Sodium, Sulphur, Gold and Silver exist. I can also prove that Julius Caeser, Genghis Khan, Saddam Hussein, and many other exist. I can prove that the moon exists, as well as planets like Mars, Venus, Mercury, Jupiter etc exist.

Yet when it comes to Organised Religion, we go on texts that can't prove that Jesus Chrsit/Mohammed exists.

And that is the problem. When I am asked to prove something, I can, yet when others are asked to prove the Jesus/Mohammed exist, they can't. Care to take this debate further, or shall you just give up now?

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Dr. Steven Greer (head of the Disclosure Project and Cseti) talks about what is happening in the respective interviews I have linked to below. If anyone knows about this it makes sense it would be the folks who have compiled information through thousands of interviews and been called to brief military personal and even a president (this kind of information is actually above top secret in the government so unless you have clearance will have to get it where Admirals and other high ranking officials go). Excellent interview and talk, really everyone should see them both, they shed much light on the stories and reveal the the truth behind so many imaginings. I can't stop thinking about what I learned from Dr. Steven Greer, seriously, where else can you get the information? I have spent much time searching and this is from the horses lips, now I dream of cities of light.

Project Camelot interviews Dr Steven Greer
www.youtube.com...

Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequence"
www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by meathed
RELIGION is the BIGGEST hoax ever perpetrated on mankind.

You read my mind.

I do hope someday people will stop their petty bickering on these forums and get down to some real research and sharing information. I found people get most emotional and hateful when arguing topics which cannot be readily proven or cannot be proven at all; i.e. matters of faith.This attitude, at its extreme, has lead to death in the past, and even in or own times it still persists as a source of destruction and anguish. Whether you believe in a creator, a specific creator or no creator, it's all still a matter of faith. There will come a day when everyone, no exceptions, will find out what and who was right, if anyone; so until then, let's all calm down and get to work solving these mysteries we're all so interested in. Even if we never do find out what were trying to figure out, we should at least have some fun trying. Thanks!

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Folks we are being duped by the movies, the brainwashing and being led by the devils themselves to believe that aliens/greys are real when in fact they are demons/jinns. These demons/jinn are in communication with the highest power structure of the elite and it is all part of the master plan to put you into obedient little sheep.

So, you don't think that:

-Facebook
-Electronics such as laptops, smartphones, cameras....
-Basic Human Instincts such as: rage, selfishness, Ego:

Control the masses all on their own? I mean if this is true what you say...the Jinn are wasting their time!

Originally posted by Davian
*Sigh*

You honestly believe we're alone in this universe?

Wow...

...fail.

You said the B word sir: BELIEVE.

All YOU have to go on with respect to forming a mere "opinion" (which is just YOUR take on reality)
is anything BUT substantiated fact.

FAIL for ANYONE who conclusively bashes another person for voicing their "opinion."

Now, if you call *UN-identified flying objects" UFO's you would be correct.

Aliens, Jinn, Demons?

YOU would not be correct, nor would you be incorrect.
You: would be voicing your opinion. -Which, again, is NOT a provable position to have.

reply to post by Grimalkin


^^^ Exactly.

They get: (but not limited to)

Emotional
Irrational
Personal
Angry
Bitter
Butthurt

over the thought that their ASSERTION is somehow BETTER than another view that is different than their own.

Here name calling is not tolerated like it is on G L P.
Over there, (probably due to their obvious child abuse) have to first call you a name in order
to subsequently disagree with your opinion.

A discussion without different opinions is pointless.
Most people who get emotional love to hear themselves talk and love to control a discussion which
should in my opinion be fluid, organic and include all kinds of opinions to make things interesting and thought provoking.

reply to post by EL1A5


So if Religion is the greatest Hoax perpetrated on Mankind...
Please tell me is there anything ever perpetrated on Mankind that could be considered
to be the greatest legitimate thing?

reply to post by TerribleTeam2


^^^ Your argument is a pretty safe one, don't you think?
You already know the answer: Jesus' nor God's existence can be proven/pinpointed throughout history.

Do you have anything else you can debate with or is it solely based on evidence of existence?
(If it is the former then it is clear you should not debate religion because you are already biased) -meaning

you aren't legitimately seeking truth.
You are seeking to be right because your narrow minded position is based on playing it safe.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by skyjohn

 

All religious books belong with the fiction.

So you are saying the Koran is fiction? You must provide evidence that it is a work of fiction. Otherwise it is a fact.

You really have a hard time with the concept of logical fallacies don't you? Here let me try to explain this simple concept to you....Lets replace the Koran with a photograph of a figure standing in a shadow for this example. Now if I show you a photograph of the figure and say to you "I am telling you that I took a picture of Keanu Reeves.....prove that this photograph is not Keanu....if you cannot do so, then it is indeed true and it is an absolute fact that this is a real photograph of Keanu Reeves!" would I be speaking a true statement there?
Well as any halfway bright schoolboy who has taken a single class on the subject of logical deduction would be able to answer this with a very definitive NO. Not being able to conclusively prove something does not make the opposing idea to what is being proven any more or less valid. All this does is show that it is not possible to conclusively disprove the identity of the person in the photograph with the current information at hand. There are a myriad of other possibilities......the photographer could have been mistaken about the person's identity when he took the photo, or the photographer could even be lying about the person's identity outright.....after all even if one cannot prove a lie has been told, this does not mean that the truth has been told.

reply to post by TerribleTeam2


sorry no you can't.... You can't prove that you exist, or anything besides my own consciousness exists. You accept all of that on faith.

Hell, YOU accept that I exist on Faith.... because the only fact that you know is that YOUR consciousness exists.

Anyone who can't acknowledge this one and only fact, shows their lack of conceptual intelligence....

Jaden

reply to post by bhornbuckle75


Based on that same logic, you can only prove one thing to anyone, everything else is agreed upon belief....

Jaden

While I support your creative thought and I do accept the possibility you might be right, although I believe that the probability of that is very low.

Your argument was based on a website that has an extremely weak argument supported by little if any facts, basically its an opinion piece.

I disagree with the quote at the start of your post:

"However, there is enormous evidence to support the assumption that deceptive entities have masqueraded as extraterrestrials. And although deception appears to be a frequent trait of these "visitors", it is also true that we humans have encouraged the charade."
Offsite Source: www.thejinn.net/...

Where's the enormous evidence? Through all the enormous amounts of UFO/ET research I've done I can only say that I believe UFO/ET exist but how would we prove they are demons? How do we know your not a demon?

And by your definition of these demons, they can be invisible and do "magical" things. Suppose for a second that ETs could in fact possess technology that allows them to be invisible and perform feats that we believe to be impossible, does this then mean we automatically have to classify them as demons?

Perhaps its posts like yours that discourage ETs from revealing themselves openly and transparently, due to the fact that knuckle draggers would likely lynch them and maybe all the people of faith will call them "demons" and try to kill them with nukes. What faiths hold the power to the world's nuclear and advanced technologies?

With humanity unable to set aside simple differences such as belief, race, etc. I don't see us as being mature enough on the species level to deal with the real ramifications of ET contact (true for most sleeping masses considering UFO/ET material at this point is pretty much undebatable and is available to anyone with an internet connection and a sense of interest and open mind ie: NASA footage, NASA photos, Russian Space Agency photos, millions of witnesses, paintings on caves, carvings, and other forms of art depicting "ET" like figures).

Since we can't prove to the world they even exist in the first place good luck with your demon theory.

This thread is a joke. Not only is it now way off topic and on religion, but the original post for this thread was weak at best. I say big fail on this thread. Close it up. I'm outta here.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


I agree with your OP completely Professional. This not only shows up in the Bible to be accurate, but if you have even an ounce of common sense you can see satanic/devil/jinn handy work in almost every form of "entertainment" or secret club. Your right on here sir. Star and Flag

reply to post by bhornbuckle75


Muhammaed has been documented and verified by numerous historians and scholars. He saw something that science cannot prove today. Any harebrained ideas or claims put forth by anyone on this board such as space camels must be backed by documented verifiable scholars and historian accounts. There are more accounts of demons visiting earth than of Aliens.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by skyjohn

 

All religious books belong with the fiction.

So you are saying the Koran is fiction? You must provide evidence that it is a work of fiction. Otherwise it is a fact.

fail!
fail!
fail!

after edit: wow 23 pages. after this on page one ATS is full of lolz

reply to post by Anthony1138

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL You, a religious zealot have no say in the orgins of these beings, you do not know them, nor do any of your descendants live to their era, your entire family tree dies within 500 years, not one trace of your kind will exist. I am referring to those, who believe any and allnaliens are demons or devils, while claiming humans are gods favorite, how childish.

It was documented by the Koran. I did not claim it. The koran provided the evidence. No where did I claim that humans are better than these jinn. Where is my quote on that?

You as an individual, are racist. Believing that Arabs comes to America to dilute your soil, even though your kind stole it from another. I know everything about your kind, you fear change and differences, you live in the states, near mid southern area.

Where did I claim anything racist?
Where did I beleive that arabs came to america to dilute soil? Show my quote on it.
What is my kind?

reply to post by Aceofclubs


Prove it is a fail please. Saying fail three times doesn't make it so. I can call you gay three times...does it make it true? I wouldn't know. Does it?