Afghan mob storms UN office, kills 8, beheads 2

Basically a free man in the west today is not allowed to draw cartoons or burn Korans or make fun of that religion in his own country. Does that mean people are no longer free in thier own free countries anymore, will they be blackmailed with death of non muslims throughout the world while people are free in their own land to express such extreamists views in their own form of protest?
If they arrest or make it law not to ridicule the Koan in America then the same must go for the Bible and all other religions, and where does that stop, because from a Christian point of view they can say evolution and calling the Bible a myth taught in education can be equally as offensive, so where do you draw the line here?

I am sure plenty of Churches and Christians have been killed because of Islam in pratically every muslim country today and yet no one in the West riots or protests for them, they are all forgotton in the West. How many years have the Coptic Christians been persecuted in Egypt, yes they protested now after blowing up a church of people and maybe God has put in the heart of the Egyptians that where there is a socially Koran controlled government there is no freedom and tolerance and just maybe this new generation of Arabs has woken up from it too.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
How do we know this wasn't CIA covert ops trying to make people more sympathetic for the current UN-backed mission in Libya?

I would bet more on ISI.

Sheesh--you people don't think very deep when you have the opportunity to generalize Muslims and display your unadulterated hatred of the entire culture.

It isn't about singling out muslims, for me anyway. It's about any organized religion that justifies violence when their religion is "insulted" or to attack those who don't follow their rules. Evil people use indoctrinated zombies to achieve their goals on both sides of this conflict.

reply to post by 27jd


Why am I still alive? I made a youtube video 3 years ago, I burnt a copy of the bible, and of the koran, both I bought. Then I pissed on the ashes. I told people where I lived at the time, I showed my face so people knew who to come after. If I could have found a copy of the torah that would have been in the bonfire too.

It had a whole lot of hits before it was deleted, four times I put it up. I didn't see a huge uprising from either religion, I had a few bible thumpers from my town talk some #, but no one did anything. Maybe one ran over my cat, that was suspicious, but it could have been anyone driving down my road.

reply to post by TKDRL


Well, they didn't kill the pastor either, yet anyway.But you're not a pastor of a church, who happened to get some press and national coverage of your ridiculous actions. You're just an average person. I'm sure youtube is full of people trying to piss other people off, and yours just didn't make headlines as most don't. Also, your statement was one that attacked all religions, so that doesn't really tie in with the holy war thing I guess. But, if you really want to test it, go to Afghanistan and burn the koran in the street, then come back and tell us how it goes.

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
I wonder what their motive was?... Revenge for the murder of those 7 Afghan boys gathering wood last week?

This will be looked upon, I'm sure, as "Islamists Jihadists with AlQueda ties with a religous motive".

-- Shrug--

edit on 1-4-2011 by CanadianDream420 because: (no reason given)

are you looking for justification for why they did it? are you serious dude? they said themselves they were protesting the burning of the koran. i'm sorry but this is ridiculous. these people are literally insane and you are trying to somehow justify their actions!!!! i'm more surprised by liberal pinko commies like you that justify this kind of stuff.

someone burns an object on another continent and they start chopping heads off and killing people. i believe the final death toll was 20. another example of the religion of peace in action. sorry canadianStonerBoy but we are in a religious war whether we acknowledge it, realize it or not! these people want YOU dead.

another problem I have is that the moderate muslim population never condemns this stuff. i can hear the crickets chirping.

when its one of yours who suffers a similar fate maybe you'll stop shrugging

ok. so they premeditated killing civilians instead of this just being a fit of rage. that makes it WORSE.

out of the 1.5 billion I didn't hear any of them condemning this atrocity. not a one. so read your own post again, if you were trying to make a point it backfired.

i think there is a good justification for being scared of a religion who states that either you convert or you are beheaded.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
For all the muslim-phobes who are using this as an excuse to find a soapbox for their irrational hatred of 1.5 billion people, from the article:

Afghan insurgents used mass protests against Quran burning as cover to launch an attack on the United Nations building in northern Mazar-i-Sharif city, in which at least seven foreigners were killed, the governor of Northern Balkh province said. Read more: www.calgaryherald.com...

(bold mine)

edit on 1-4-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Teabags

 

When is the last time a foreign country invaded the US? Hell, a certain state in the US got flack because they thought it was a great idea to see if people pulled over were even legal.... That invasion is not like what we are doing in the middle east though, now is it? If another country, invaded us with the UN's blessing, do you think we would just roll over and play dead? I don't, I hope that wouldn't happen.

Hypotheticals are BS. Lets get that straight. EVEN IF the US was invaded/occupied by another country/group of countries you certainly wouldn't see protests with people hopping up and down chanting hatred and chopping peoples heads off. You would see decisive do-or-die action not cowardly acts of violence by dudes hidden by womens clothing or trying people trying to blend in as "civilians" who are too cowardly to actually take a stand like a man,
You know why its never happened here? Because Americans have pride, integrity and don't put up with crap like that. Thats why we are a FIRST world country... because of the way we ACT, not what we have.

We have what we have because of the way we act. As soon as these animals realize that and act the same way they will see that too.

reply to post by Teabags


Keep telling yourself that garbage. If it was muslim armies taking over the US, backed by the UN, you would be cheering on resistance. Unless maybe you are a coward, if a foreign army was taking over north america, I would be part of the guerilla fighting, and the UN would be fair game. Maybe you are just a coward scared to fight, and condemn anyone that will fight.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


nobody said they were mine

reply to post by 27jd


Well testing the original theory, the FL guy supposedly is the cause *Cough BS Cough*, why was there no great beheading when I did it?

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Teabags

 

Keep telling yourself that garbage. If it was muslim armies taking over the US, backed by the UN, you would be cheering on resistance. Unless maybe you are a coward, if a foreign army was taking over north america, I would be part of the guerilla fighting, and the UN would be fair game. Maybe you are just a coward scared to fight, and condemn anyone that will fight.

edit on Sat, 02 Apr 2011 19:46:26 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

People acting with pride, integrity and civility is garbage? You keep telling yourself that and you will remain on the business end of a first world country.
Are you under the impression that I think I am better than those people? You should because I am.

reply to post by TKDRL


But, our country has been taken over. It is no longer a government for the people, by the people. Our government has been bought and paid for by corporate interests, many of them are foreign. And we have all rolled over and taken it, because we're thrown some of the scraps, but we have no real say anymore. The 2 party system is a scam, created to give the illusion of choice. Obama is no different than Bush. Our government has shown time and again that it ignores the will of the people. They don't give a rat's @ss if we want our soldiers out of the ME or SE Asia. Most Americans want our soldiers to come home, and defend OUR borders, but our government doesn't care. They are protecting their corporate handlers' interests in the region, and it doesn't matter if we agree or not.

reply to post by Teabags


Come play then. You willing to come play with me? Yeah I doubt it. You would not last, you would become fertilizer for next years crops.

reply to post by 27jd


Oh you will not hear me argue with that, maybe there was some misunderstanding. You are totally right.

Originally posted by searching4truth
reply to post by TKDRL

 

But would anyone be surprised that they were fed up with war and foreign occupation? I seriously doubt that.

Any other idea what they could be pissed about (that the story hasn't already broke ie random killings and such)?

edit on 2-4-2011 by searching4truth because: (no reason given)

Face it, they need and have many reasons to be angry at the West in general.
-We're bombing Afghanistan killing civilians and their livestock.
-We're bombing Pakistan.
-We have completely occupied Iraq.
-We're now bombing Libya.
-We're still aiding and supporting Israel.

Just Some of the reasons why some Islamic fighters might be a tad pissed.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Teabags

 

Come play then. You willing to come play with me? Yeah I doubt it. You would not last, you would become fertilizer for next years crops.

Thanks for supporting my point of view.
A coward acting tough over the internet making threats. No pride. No dignity. Just someone jumping up and down chanting hatred, just on a forum and not on a dirt road in Afghanistan.

Work to make yourself better.

reply to post by TKDRL


Again, nobody knows who you are. You're not a religious leader, you're just a dude. But if you have some evidence to show that the rioters weren't protesting the koran burning, any at all, please present it. I'm certainly open to that evidence. Otherwise, it's nothing but your speculation. The mobs were reportedly demanding that the pastor be prosecuted for the burning, and the timing does match up. Did they just find out about the occupation? Are they that slow on the uptake? And are you suggesting that muslims don't react this way to perceived attacks on their religion? Did the Danish cartoon incident NOT take place? The rioters have made it perfectly clear why they're pissed, but if you can prove that's a lie, by all means, do it.

I'm not justifying our occupation there, at all. I'm just saying that they are a deeply indoctrinated people and this is not something that is out of character for them. They are supposedly demanding we leave, unless we punish the pastor....

reply to post by Teabags


Blah blah, what makes you think a dirt road in afganistan is different from any other dirt road?

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Teabags

 

Blah blah, what makes you think a dirt road in afganistan is different from any other dirt road?

It doesn't matter what dirt road we are talking about. It doesnt matter if its paved. It doesn't matter if its Rodeo Drive... what matters is the extremist such as yourself hopping up and down chanting "Death to Teabags" wanting to cut my head off and use me as fertilizer (your words, not mine).

Get the point?

reply to post by 27jd


The mobs were maybe protesting a koran burning. Do you have proof of that? Can you read the signs they are carrying? I have caught MSM talking complete BS time and time again, their subtitles were a lie. I believe my neighbors over MSM 100% of the time. I have caught these scum lieing in many languages.