ELEnin Comet Is A NASA Psyop Cover For Incoming Dwarf Star

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I saw on RSOE EDIS site that June 2nd, 2011 there is an object approaching with a LD of 0.9. This object is 72 m to 160 m in diameter. The distance from Earth was posted in red. Can anyone tell me if this object will pose a threat to life here on Earth? I do not mean to disrupt your thread, but was not sure where to post this question. I did a search for a thread relating to this but couldn't find one.

Tomorrow it's supposed to be clear and 37 degrees here at Wright-Patt AFB. If I look toward Orion with my Nikon Binoculars, will I be able to see it?

Originally posted by Violater1
Tomorrow it's supposed to be clear and 37 degrees here at Wright-Patt AFB. If I look toward Orion with my Nikon Binoculars, will I be able to see it?

Nope. Even some huge 25x150 binoculars, it's too dim to see and would be less than 1/2000th the total field of view in size.

PlanetXGuy, you did a great job laying out the case for the flyby this summer and fall, covered it all, and I could have saved myself a lot of hours of research if I had hit your thread first. So I see where you are coming from. I was caught up with Astropatriot's videos and sent them all around to my friends. Then when I found he was tied in with Lucus and that he had been found a registered child molester and that he just disappeared and his channel came down -- I started looking at the whole thing in a different light, the whole celestial onslaught event.

I have listened to JR Moore's talk. I do believe that the government does expect something to happen.

But I have a lot of questions. The alignments with Elenin that produced the three earthquakes, supposedly, were not Elenin, Sun, Earth, but had the earth in the middle, so how does that produce an earthquake? And we are told this comet is small and that if it weren't for the fact that it is named Elenin nobody would notice or care about it.

But the Japanese earthquake has left us all stunned, and we are helpless as we watch the New Madrid get HAARPed and Weather Warred, and who knows what kind of manipulating is being done to get that thing to blow. We know the Illuminati has announced its plans to have the U.S. split in two, with a new capital in Denver, moved from Washington, DC. We know the Illuminati has planned since the inception of this country that when it had outlived its purpose to bring on the NWO that it would be brought down, destroyed.

So bottom line, I see this Elenin thing as a cover for Weather Wars. Man-made catastrophes, done under cover of a comet. Another NASAscam. It will be perfect, because this comet will probably drop a lot of meteors and provide a fabulous cover for all kinds of mischief by some very evil people at the top of the pyramid who are looking to bring down the world's population to a more manageable size in their New World Order tyranny.

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But I have a lot of questions. The alignments with Elenin that produced the three earthquakes, supposedly, were not Elenin, Sun, Earth, but had the earth in the middle, so how does that produce an earthquake? And we are told this comet is small and that if it weren't for the fact that it is named Elenin nobody would notice or care about it.

The Moon which is quite large compared to any comet and also much closer than any comet has been is correlated only with a few rare types of low magnitude earthquakes.

Also, any 3 points in space can be made to look like they are aligned when shown in a 2d projection. Just get the right viewpoint and voila, a fake alignment is shown as was done here. The alignment claim is a hoax.

It will be perfect, because this comet will probably drop a lot of meteors

Comets don't drop meteors. We only see the meteors if we pass through the path a comet took. Since we are not on such a path it means that there will be no meteors.

Originally posted by stereologist
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But I have a lot of questions. The alignments with Elenin that produced the three earthquakes, supposedly, were not Elenin, Sun, Earth, but had the earth in the middle, so how does that produce an earthquake? And we are told this comet is small and that if it weren't for the fact that it is named Elenin nobody would notice or care about it.

The Moon which is quite large compared to any comet and also much closer than any comet has been is correlated only with a few rare types of low magnitude earthquakes.

Also, any 3 points in space can be made to look like they are aligned when shown in a 2d projection. Just get the right viewpoint and voila, a fake alignment is shown as was done here. The alignment claim is a hoax.

It will be perfect, because this comet will probably drop a lot of meteors

Comets don't drop meteors. We only see the meteors if we pass through the path a comet took. Since we are not on such a path it means that there will be no meteors.

Meh, you are profoundly wrong in assuming that you, equipped with flawed knowledge afforded to you by flawed science can predict all workings in the universe with no deviation.

You were probably that guy running around in Spain yelling to burn the round earthers at the stake cause you just couldn't take any more of the "round earth" talk from the nut jobs.

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Interesting. The media is saying something about the comet having a "toxic tail?" And we hear that it has gone through the asteroid belt and that it is big enough to catch some debris to drag along with it.

Comet NEAT going by in 2003 was supposed to have a huge core. There are things on YouTube that say the core was as big as planet Mercury.

How is it that comets do not have meteors, or debris, they would drag behind them? I think these comets are more substantial than we've been led to believe.

You know the program, the JPL program, that is being used all over YouTube to portray alignments of Elenin with the sun and earth. I'm not sure what you mean by faking an alignment, other than that if you look down birds eye view the bodies can not really be in a straight line at all, but seem to be, but one is higher than the rest, you know? Is that what you meant?

And I missed the post ahead of me, but I don't know why you are taking up so much space with a comment that is only just a rude and childish insult to Stereologist, and against the posting rules I think.

Originally posted by Helious
Meh, you are profoundly wrong in assuming that you, equipped with flawed knowledge afforded to you by flawed science can predict all workings in the universe with no deviation.

I fail to see how wild speculation is somehow superior the systematic process of refinement science offers us. Elenin's orbit is well known at this point, thanks to the progressive refinement of our knowledge of orbital mechanics going all the way back to Copernicus.

Originally posted by Helious
You were probably that guy running around in Spain yelling to burn the round earthers at the stake cause you just couldn't take any more of the "round earth" talk from the nut jobs.

It's ironic that someone complaining about flawed knowledge offers up flawed history as example.

Originally posted by nataylor

Originally posted by Helious
Meh, you are profoundly wrong in assuming that you, equipped with flawed knowledge afforded to you by flawed science can predict all workings in the universe with no deviation.

I fail to see how wild speculation is somehow superior the systematic process of refinement science offers us. Elenin's orbit is well known at this point, thanks to the progressive refinement of our knowledge of orbital mechanics going all the way back to Copernicus.

Originally posted by Helious
You were probably that guy running around in Spain yelling to burn the round earthers at the stake cause you just couldn't take any more of the "round earth" talk from the nut jobs.

It's ironic that someone complaining about flawed knowledge offers up flawed history as example.

Ah, the easiest post of the day to lay waste too. The difference is I have nothing to defend as I, in my statements have made no claim.

Your position is that your knowledge about space and whats in it and how it behaves has all come from a controlled source, one that has been found to be profoundly flawed time after time after time throughout history every time we find something that doesn't fit into the current idea.

Science is good for mankind, it's a working knowledge and it has progressed us greatly but it is almost negligently criminal for anyone to state that there personal knowledge from government controlled media is true and present it as fact, that is just blatantly ignoring 1000 years of history.

Pick up a history book instead of a MSM science one and see what they hid in the past, see what the burned people at the stake for because they didn't want people to know and for gods sake........... Deny ignorance sometimes.

Originally posted by truthteller07

Interesting. The media is saying something about the comet having a "toxic tail?" And we hear that it has gone through the asteroid belt and that it is big enough to catch some debris to drag along with it.

where are "we" hearing these things? Certainly not from astronomers.

Comet NEAT going by in 2003 was supposed to have a huge core. There are things on YouTube that say the core was as big as planet Mercury.

I'm sure there are things on YouTube that say many things. What do actual scientists say? No comet has a nucleus as big as a planet.

How is it that comets do not have meteors, or debris, they would drag behind them? I think these comets are more substantial than we've been led to believe.

They do not attract debris for a couple reasons. First, they are relatively small and lack the gravity needed to collect debris. Second, due to their highly eliptical orbits, comets that pass through the asteroid belt do so at very significant relative speeds. Any significant debris simply could not be dragged along by such a weak gravitational field moving at such speed.

Originally posted by Helious
Deny ignorance sometimes.

I try to with every post. Especially the kind of ignorance that would make someone discount all of science due to profound misunderstandings of its processes and results.

Originally posted by nataylor

Originally posted by Helious
Deny ignorance sometimes.

I try to with every post. Especially the kind of ignorance that would make someone discount all of science due to profound misunderstandings of its processes and results.

Trust me bud, I know more about science than you most likely. Perhaps that is why I am so inclined to mistrust it. I unlike you have conceded that reality is a day to day affair and most of what we know and consider as scientific fact eventual changes as new circumstance emerge.

I am not discounting science though because it is an important part of who and what we are and it has in a way, made us who we are today. I just think it is irresponsible to make certain jumps within the genera without having a sample size.

Who knew that carbon dating after all these long years would essentially end up being possibly useless. Consider for a minute that with all our knowledge combined about how big the Universe actually is, we have almost 0 knowledge about our OWN solar system. I just wish you book heads could concede for one minute there may be something at work we can not accurately predict. Get your head out of your 8th grade science book for a second.

Science has come along way as far as compared to the history of the earth and slightly beyond but as far as our solar system is concerned, as far as our galaxy is concerned, as far as our universe is concerned, don't make me laugh.

We could be living on a flee of an interdenominational dog or be a computer simulation and the best minds in science would have no idea and you know it, so don't try and flex your MSM views on what you know about science..... You ever been to space?

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Meh, you are profoundly wrong in assuming that you, equipped with flawed knowledge afforded to you by flawed science can predict all workings in the universe with no deviation.

You were probably that guy running around in Spain yelling to burn the round earthers at the stake cause you just couldn't take any more of the "round earth" talk from the nut jobs.

Although at times you claim to have a good understanding of science and such we see that is false.

You are making a huge mistake here in thinking that Spain had flat earthers. By the time Spain was founded the notion of a round Earth was well established. Your comments are based on very mistaken ideas.

You also do not seem to understand science at all in your commentary.

It is very clear that you never addressed the issues in my post. Why is that? Is it because you are unable to see any problems with the issues I raised?

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Interesting. The media is saying something about the comet having a "toxic tail?" And we hear that it has gone through the asteroid belt and that it is big enough to catch some debris to drag along with it.

Can you show us where this toxic tail claim comes from?
The comet is not dragging material from the asteroid belt with it. Where did that idea come from?

The silly videos made by quacks and hoaxers are meaningless. They are vehicles used by charlatans.

How is it that comets do not have meteors, or debris, they would drag behind them? I think these comets are more substantial than we've been led to believe.

Why would a comet drag anything? Why do you think that should be the case.

BTW, to be correct a meteor is a flash of light we see in the sky. A meteorite is a lump of extraterrestrial material that falls to Earth.

Comets do not drag things around with them. They release material through outgassing as they are heated upon approach to the Sun. Should we pass through the path a comet took, then we see meteors at times.

I'm not sure what you mean by faking an alignment,

Take a triangle. Pick it up in your hands. See that the 3 corners of the triangle are NOT in a line. Now turn the triangle so that it appears to your eye that the 3 points are in a line. See what I mean? The videos adjust the position of the viewpoint to make it appear 3 points are in a line even when they are not.

If you want to show that things are aligned then you take a viewpoint along the line. Ever watch how a carpenter checks to see if a board is straight? They look along the length of the board.

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Ah, the easiest post of the day to lay waste too. The difference is I have nothing to defend as I, in my statements have made no claim.

Your position is that your knowledge about space and whats in it and how it behaves has all come from a controlled source, one that has been found to be profoundly flawed time after time after time throughout history every time we find something that doesn't fit into the current idea.

Science is good for mankind, it's a working knowledge and it has progressed us greatly but it is almost negligently criminal for anyone to state that there personal knowledge from government controlled media is true and present it as fact, that is just blatantly ignoring 1000 years of history.

Pick up a history book instead of a MSM science one and see what they hid in the past, see what the burned people at the stake for because they didn't want people to know and for gods sake........... Deny ignorance sometimes.

Everyone sees how your posts are vacuous, i.e., of no content.

The basis for your claims appears to be that YOU do not know much about this material and assume that no one else can or falsely claim that no one else does.

You also make the false statement that science is government controlled. Such a statement shows that you do not do science, have not done science, and probably have an aversion to science.

Science is done by amateur astronomers some of whom have advanced degrees in the subject, but earn their living elsewhere. They can take measurements and independently verify the course of comets. There are free and public software packages developed by non-government people that simulate celestial mechanics.

Your claims of burning people at the stake are incorrect time and time again. You need to learn more about these issues and only you can determine where you have gone off the deep end.

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Trust me bud, I know more about science than you most likely.

Your posts scream this is not true. There is a nearly constant spew of mistakes; yes simple mistakes.
1. The myth of flat earth
2. The idea that government is the source of all science
3. Statistics - obvious you have no idea about sampling and sample size
4. Carbon dating - you clearly are mistaken there or have bought into some religious quackery
5. The no knowledge of our solar system falsehood

The latter comment is a typical argument from someone that understands very little of science and what we know and do not know. To claim that there is much we do not know has no bearing on what we do know. It is a logical fallacy that is very clearly a failure.

Originally posted by Helious
I unlike you have conceded that reality is a day to day affair and most of what we know and consider as scientific fact eventual changes as new circumstance emerge.

I'm well aware of the process of science. What science offers us is the best possible description and explanation of the natural world. It is that very process of change, review, and rethinking that gives science its strength.

Originally posted by Helious
I am not discounting science though because it is an important part of who and what we are and it has in a way, made us who we are today. I just think it is irresponsible to make certain jumps within the genera without having a sample size.

We've got a pretty good sample size on comets, and orbital mechanics in general.

Originally posted by Helious
I just wish you book heads could concede for one minute there may be something at work we can not accurately predict.

Science is about evidence. What evidence is there that this is anything but a regular old comet? Scientists are more than willing to look at new evidence. They love to prove each other wrong. That's what the process of science is. It's that form of "survival of the fittest" that lets the explanations science offers rise to the top. That's why we can say at any given point that that the explanations science offers are the best possible.

Can new evidence be found? Yes, of course. Do theories change? Again, yes. This is a strength of science, not a weakness. This is how our knowledge becomes refined, and how science continually improves. To somehow think that all knowledge that science offers should be ignored because of this process is ridiculous.

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Consider for a minute that with all our knowledge combined about how big the Universe actually is, we have almost 0 knowledge about our OWN solar system.

Correction; you apparently have no knowledge about our own solar system. You are stirring up fear around a comet; a comet! Do you know what a comet is? Let me show you some pictures:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b42634d4e093.jpg[/atsimg]NASA

This is the nucleus of Comet Tempel 1 as photographed by NASA's "Deep Impact" probe. It is a ball of dust and ice about 5 kilometers across.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/394e8ee08fcc.jpg[/atsimg]UCLA/NASA

This is the nucleus of comet 19/P Borrelly, as photographed by NASA's "Deep Space 1" probe. It is about 8 kilometers long.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7c5f1ce480e1.jpg[/atsimg]JAXA

This is the nucleus of comet 25143 Itokawa as photographed by Japan's Hayabusa sample return probe. It is about half a kilometer long. Data from the samples of the comet's nucleus returned by the probe is available here.

There really is no excuse for this sort of behavior:

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There is a lot of bickering and posturing here, not much getting settled.

How about some documentation for all these claims?

I just don't believe that comets are all tiny little non-entities, dirty snowballs, with no gravity. The thing that came by in 2003, shown on SOHO, was huge, big enough to attract a huge solar explosion from the sun, which knocked the comet off its orbit.

And when it comes to NASA and their science -- don't make me laugh.

Are any of the points I made worth discussing, or just the bickering to continue? If so, I won't be back here.

Originally posted by truthteller07

How about some documentation for all these claims?

I just don't believe that comets are all tiny little non-entities, dirty snowballs, with no gravity. The thing that came by in 2003, shown on SOHO, was huge, big enough to attract a huge solar explosion from the sun, which knocked the comet off its orbit.

Let's start with documention for these claims. I'd like to see some documentation that shows the diameter of a comet nucleus can be determined from SOHO imagery, or that the orbit of a comet's nucleus has ever been appreciably altered by any kind of solar particle event.