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Australia proposes ban on 1000s of plants including national flower

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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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Why not really p**s them off and do a How 2 on how to process it..

Can't be that hard to bang up a tutorial..



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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The vault at erowid.com is a good place to start.




posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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Hmmmm, sound like they are afraid of more people having experiences...or coming into contact with something? God maybe? Aliens? What could it be? It sure isn't being done to protect anyone. Well...whose gonna do something about it? Are you guys gonna fight back with civil disobedience?
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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Aussies --> We can use this proposed legislation to our advantage.
If we can inform enough people, and get enough people to send emails and show their disapproval of this, IT WONT HAPPEN.

Garden enthusiasts, nature folk, drug users etc. etc. all will be appalled at this. Send your own calls for help to everybody on your email/fb list. We can put a stop to this, and at the same time make a great deal of the general public aware of the pineal gland.

Beware that this may cause people to realise you give a crap about something other then day to day life, which may cause you to be flamed. I have already been accused of wearing a tin foil hat for bringing awareness to the pineal gland, dmt and flouride.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Seekeye2

Originally posted by captainbitter
reply to post by moonpie86
 


I have some very high conspiratorial feelings about this as well... it really seems this is to prevent the few people that know about '___' from exploring their mind.



This makes me wonder what the h..l is going on. Is it that they know people are latching on to the fact that these plants have healing qualities and going against the Big Pharmas it's funny they're also banning alternative medications in the UK.
Take a look at the other secrets Australia appear to be hiding - wish I knew more about this one.
www.rense.com...


A Little off topic, but... This could be why the states of Tasmania, NSW & Qld are advertising to recruit a new wave of PFF (Project Fire Fighter), personel, just a few weeks before the fire season is due to finish..!!

This year, the PFF's didn't do a great deal of firefighting, they were mostly re-shuffled out to the flood areas for emergency response. They did an amazing job this year too, eventhough it wasn't what they were trained for.

If the AU Govt. is expecting massive floods this year it would account for the sudden unschedualed recruitment of new PFF positions around the eastern states. On top of that they appear to also be keeping all the existing crews on for much longer, eventhough it's been a crappy summer as far as fires go.

I have acctually applied to NSW myself wth this new intake...lol



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by polarwarrior


Don't they realize they will only make people like us want to try it more than ever before?





this might be the whole point.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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I've just added my name onto the email petition and forwarded it around via facebook etc.

Whilst i'm not a major gardener, my fiance and I do grow lots of different plants and veggies and it seems to me like there are a lot of really stupid things happening here in Oz lately regarding plants.

First there was that idiot in WA saying that Organic certification should be more lenient and include some GM crops, now this....

Morons...



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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How are they going to banned this?

Natural plants grow wild in the woods and fields . They have for 443 million years . Give or take an Ice age or 2

All drugs that are natural and not legal are growing someplace wild right now .
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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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Can you tell us more about this?
I have to be honest in saying that I haven't kept up to date in nature news... You would think that since they designate all that time to weather, sport and murder, they could give us a 5 minute nature update on the nightly news!



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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No need for the tinfoil hat, you nailed it, that's exactly about right.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Will it be legal to collect the seeds?



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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Access

There are as far as I know, only three possible ways to access this, let's say if you're avarage American Joe.

One - though a certified laboratory who can order it, either molecule, whether '___' or its close cousin 5MEO-'___' (the God-drug), from a couple of the major chemical companies, under the premise of doing humane euthenasia work for animals, in particular farm animals or..

Two - travel to a town called Ashland in Oregon and insinuate yourself into the local hippy culture (use the codeword of "TOAD") and someone will know someone who knows someone if you know what I mean.. or

Three - collect your own by "milking" the Sonoran Desert Toad, Bufo Alvarius, found during certain times of the year in certain places in Arzona and New Mexico, which encompasses the Sonoran Desert Region

www.desertmuseum.org...

The large glands on each side of the head of the animal are gently squeezed (it doesn't mind apparently) and the milky substance captured on a piece of glass, left to dry, with the dried powder later scraped into a vial.

The only place you CANNOT get it, is from ANY supplier on the Internet, they are ALL, each and every one, to a one, scam artists willing to take your money, but who provide either nothing or nothing but garbage in return.

10 years ago, it was a different story and you could get it from certain sources on the net, not any more.

I also think there was some religious group, situated either in California or in Oregon who obtained the legal right to utilize it for religious purposes. So in theory, that would represent a fourth way.

So not only does nobody or very few know about this, it is next to impossible to get a hold of.

Oh and down at the annual "Burning Man" festival - you ought to be able to find it SOMEWHERE there, or maybe not.

Edit: I'm sorry, there is ONE other way - you can make your own with all the right plants, with something on the level of a chemical lab of your own. It's doable, but not easy, and so I guess that's what the proposed law then is all about, to say that if you're caught working with these plants to produce it, then they can nail you for possession of a controlled substance.

More info and research

www.erowid.org...


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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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So if they DO go ahead with this preposterous ban, then by God they just might end up having to deal, head on, with a whole contingent and FLEET of '___'-Sorcerers, moving, within the sphere or domain of non-ordinary reality as an "omegapoint" of orchestrated simultaneity; an arrow of Civilized progress directed with high precision and unrelenting persistence, at the machiavellian imbeciles which comprise the PTB.
I tell you they won't know what HIT them!



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:23 PM
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LOL man, i was just thinking exactly this , too much.

This is likely to be quite interesting indeed. Consider me part of this "Fleet".

In fact the last 5 years have been all about such statements like you just made



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Terrance McKenna would be proud, and is, whereever he is..



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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A very interesting and entertaining discussion about '___' by Joe Rogan:




posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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...there is ONE other way - you can make your own with all the right plants, with something on the level of a chemical lab of your own. It's doable, but not easy...

I beg to differ. Very basic chemistry is involved... You only need 3 "ingredients", which you can pick up from most grocery or hardware stores (minus the plant material containing the alkaloid, which is readily and cheaply available online).

If anyone were so inclined to extract '___' from plant material, it requires minimal skill and materials. Generally, '___' isn't available from traditional drug dealers - most people just make their own. I guess that's why the feds would need to ban 1000s of plants, just so some savvy hippie can't pick up some "drugs" on their nature walk
... But I'm still scratching my head as to why bother banning it? I don't see any '___'-junkies running around raping and pillaging the Australian countryside. Why are open minds so dangerous to the gov't, huh??



Why not really p**s them off and do a How 2 on how to process it.. Can't be that hard to bang up a tutorial..


There's a '___' Wiki, a collaborative attempt to create an online '___' handbook. Obviously, it's for informational purposes only, since '___' is a controlled substance in many parts of the world... So get informed.
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posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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I just finished watching a lot of Terrence McKenna, and reading up on the natural plants containing '___'. And i am furious that these mason who think they're angels (I also just watched the omega code project last night) and the blloodlines, really think they're going to survive the disasters as they do in every cycle and kill off everyone with any memories of the old era, and knowledge, but it looks like they're really trying to create a new generation of mind controlled zombie trolls or something as their slaves.

Really, say NO. Write in. Plant everything in your back yard and SEED THE FORESTS.



posted on Feb, 28 2011 @ 11:45 PM
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Ive always wanted to try some of that '___' now that you mention it....



posted on Mar, 1 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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Go to the website to stop this and help by emailing the minister.
The gov are the CRIMS trying to take another freedom from us!
www.gardenfreedom.com...




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