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Pedophilia Guide Author Arrested

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:51 PM
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reply to post by Resurrectio
 


i think the irony will be in the future when your arrested for saying the wrong thing.

::and theres just as many pedos running around.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:52 PM
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The bottom line here is this: Freedom of speech is sacred, and nobody should be opposed to it, no matter how insane, disgusting, or offensive it might be.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:53 PM
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"Wouldn't normally do"...

Hmm so please explain how police stings work ..

Hooker stings?

Dateline NBC???

Gosh you are blinded by ignorance!

I understand sticking up for 1st amendment rights.. I want the laws changed to fit pedophile writings in.. That is my opinion.. THATS IT..

I want this guy dead!! ALSO my wants/opinion!

Where is the confusion here?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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wow.. Do you know anything of substance?

That book was sent to Fl correct?
The law they are charging him with is a Fl law?
The book was up for sale.. Offering to be shipped to any state correct?

Are you this stubborn or this ignorant?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:55 PM
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Certainly they'd investigate.

But an investigation is not a verdict of "guilty" in response to criminal charges in a trial.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Anttyk47
Pretty sure there's something call freedom of speech.
And i'm pretty sure that's all i have to say.
Although i don't agree.
He probably wrote this book knowing it was legal.
So shame on those who prosecute
And show the corruption
Because the law is clear
Yet we still go against it


Pretty sure freedom of speech was NEVER intended to protect predators such as this, there's defending our rights and than there's defending a pedophile.

I hope they lock him up and throw away the key.

The bill of rights were created as a foundation for which this country is built upon and allowed to be manipulated as we the people see fit, the intention of that was to allow us the people to pick and choose when we wish such things to apply, not blanket protection for scum bags such as the author of said book.That's why we have a court system in place.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
I understand sticking up for 1st amendment rights.. I want the laws changed to fit pedophile writings in.. That is my opinion.. THATS IT..

I want this guy dead!! ALSO my wants/opinion!

Where is the confusion here?


The irony of someone expressing moral outrage by screaming about wanting someone dead. You're like one of those dumbasses who call for the heads of danish cartoonists, aren't you?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by shuck
reply to post by jessejamesxx
 


And the normal person would not be reading about this in the first place..so why buy it!!..personally anyone that defends this as far as I am concerned ..is ..suspect!!



What does that have to do with my post? Anyone that defends "this", meaning writing a book about child touching? or the man going to jail for life for it? Those are two very different things.

They should get warrants on everything the man owns, tap his phones, watch what he's doing.. and then arrest him for what he's actually guilty for. And that's not writing a book.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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Nope... I just want a man that advocates the destruction of our youths fragile lives to writher in pain right before his last breathe.. Any more pointed questions? I can respond with an equally as ignorant answer!



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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Florida law [6]. The court stated that, "The essential element of the defense of entrapment is the absence of a predisposition of the defendant to commit the offense. The entrapment defense prohibits law enforcement officers from instigating a criminal act by persons otherwise innocent in order to lure them to its commission and to punish them. If the defendant seeks acquittal by reason of entrapment he cannot complain of an appropriate and searching inquiry into his own conduct and predisposition as bearing upon that issue." [7]


So there we have it.. This pedo had his book up for sale.. Offering shipping to Florida as well as all of the other US states..

Unless you are saying that they FORCED him to send this to Florida, this is NOT entrapment!



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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Your initial "bad example" pretty much tells it's own story. You don't really know what entrapment means.

Your second example isn't even a crime...LMAO. Drug dealers giving someone money isn't a crime. Again, you obviously don't really know what entrapment means proofed by your second "bad example".

Undercover cop prostitutes don't get busts unless they can prove that the customer is a repeat customer. If the "suspect" doesn't have a prior record, then it's entrapment because the "suspect" has never done it before. The officer encouraged the crime.

Chris Hanson gets away with his tactics because his team doesn't encourage people to commit a crime. They only act like kids, and then let the "suspects" approach them online. That is not encouragement. If his people did stuff like say "I'm a kid come and have sex with me", that would be encouragement. His people only say stuff like "I'm a kid, I just wanna chat", then they let the suspects talk them into meeting.

This BTW, is a third bad example from you.

I don't even know what point you are trying to make with everything you said after Hanson. To be frank, it's not well written and needs to be restated. You seem to be protecting the police and condemning them in virtually the same sentence.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:10 PM
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Please read previous post re ..such books and information point the way...and read the comments ,,thanks.

Also with regards these people being monitored...I think that would not be practical in todays economic situation..also I would like to mention in the UK ..they are monitored...yet some still manage to offend..



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:10 PM
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It can be argued for entrapment, because the police knew that the book might be seen to violate some obscure obscenity statute, while a normal person not from the state would not know. I would not have known a retarded statute like that existed without reading about it here. It is up to the consumer to know and follow the local statutes like that, not the seller.

And I will answer the last question briefly, since it is a bit off topic. Biggest issue the last generation is responsible for, is allowing the government to declare war on drugs.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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How can I be ignorant of the law, when I want the US Constitution upheld as the SUPREME law of the land?

You are the one who wants to skip a trial and have him killed in his holding cell. You are the one ignoring the law.

Yes, the book was sent to Florida. Because the police there encouraged him to send it by buying it.

I can see, more clearly than you apparently. You are so blinded by your hate, that you have given up justice for lynch-mob thinking.

Why don't you show me the laws that say it's okay for this man to be denied a trial, by being killed in his cell?

Loophole?
You claim there is a loophole, go ahead and quote the statutes/codes/laws that are being used to create this loophole. Go ahead and run us through your theory...start to finish.

Again, this is your thread...so you can feel free to prove your claims first.

If you can...



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Karma?

I'm not the one wishing that a man gets killed in his cell, and denied a trial.

I am the one wishing that a man gets his first amendment rights respected.

Innocent, until proven guilty.
Not the other way around, like you want it.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Byteman
 


Where is the confusion here?


The only confusion here is from you...

...erupting from your fingertips....

...regurgitating the same nonsensical tripe that has been disproven on your thread multiple times...

You are the beacon of ignorance.

And you seriously need to grow the hell up if you want to get any respect here.

You don't know what you're talking about at all, fact. So stop arguing against it like you know everything about it.... just like a 14 year old.

The only thing disgusting I find about this entire situation....

...is the fact that you don't have enough perspective to realize...

...that you could have been a pedophile, too, and your only option for survival would be chastity, and these desires are something you can never change for yourself...

...And based on this thing that is impossible for you to change... you are not allowed to seek help, because it has all been destroyed by people who get sensitive and let their emotions control the population...

Get some perspective, or kindly remove yourself from OUR country.

Your intolerance for unchangeable human attributes is nothing short of sociopathic, and this intolerance will not be tolerated.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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And he really got to make money off this evol. He should be robbed at gun point and left were he stood for trying to rob others of their childhood. UM just sayen how much bull is going to be excepted until we are just a planet of freaks......
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Mastermook
 


That is why Florida did it.. They have a specific law prohibiting the distribution of obscene material. He is not in jail for writing it.. He was set up by the one state where this is illegal, from what I have read about this.


Shouldnt the sheriff be charged for recieving obscene materials using TAXPAYER money for buying it?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by TheWalkingFox
 


Nope... I just want a man that advocates the destruction of our youths fragile lives to writher in pain right before his last breathe.. Any more pointed questions? I can respond with an equally as ignorant answer!


Are you describing yourself? Because the children that this book is written for are ALREADY IN THESE RELATIONSHIPS and this book HELPS THEM KEEP IT APPROPRIATE AND LEGAL IF NOT GET OUT OF IT.

YOU
DONT
KNOW
WHAT
YOU'RE
TALKING
ABOUT

YET
YOU
FIGHT
AGAINST
IT

IGNORANT
TOTALITARIAN
PIECE
OF
....
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:31 PM
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Yes, blow my statements out of proportion.

You are the one who side-stepped 90%+ of my post, to address one little section that you (incorrectly) thought you had right. Don't act like a victim when I ask (not demand) you to address all my points, and not obfuscate my entire point.

Wow, that's a clever excuse for hypocrisy. Whoever wrote the bible is dead. Wow, stunning.

Well, the publishers are still alive. So your excuse pretty much falls flat on it's face. The truth is that you want a man dead for writing a book, you don't want him to have a trial, you want him to be executed in his cell.

If you really believe in Karma, then you've condemned yourself or your descendants to a similar fate.

You are twice a hypocrite.
Once for only attacking this guy and his book, and not other books with related material.
Twice for claiming Karma, but not applying it to yourself.



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