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Pedophilia Guide Author Arrested

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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I don't remember this guy getting arrested. Murder trumps child touching.





Does anyone here think that this book will cause people to start touching kids? Personally, I don't.

They should keep it up for sale, and keep a record of the people buying it. Compile all of those people into a database, and presto.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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Genetic or environmental conditioning ..is irrellevant...we cannot and must not allow these people any where near our children.....we cannot allow for mistakes when the future of our children is at stake!!...



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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And the normal person would not be reading about this in the first place..so why buy it!!..personally anyone that defends this as far as I am concerned ..is ..suspect!!



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:29 PM
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And I am sick of ignorant mouth pieces, thinking they know what is right and wrong, based on a very old set of rules.. Are you too "slow" to adjust to the times? Are you such a self absorbed human, you can't see, it isn't my children's decisions that I am worried about.. A grown man can erase all of that teaching with one bad decision.

It is obvious you do not have children.. And for that I am thankful... God knows we don't need anymore children raised by self absorbed blind followers! Hopefully, if you beat the odds and find a suitor.. he will care more about your kids than you are capable of. But, I have a feeling, once you have your own... Your thoughts will change.. Dont worry.. Your selfishness and arrogance will not allow you to agree to this..

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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You sound a little emotionally unhinged.

Perhaps its time to talk a walk outside for a while.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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I'm sorry, but I do educate my children and do have talks with them about the evils of this world. I do not shelter them and they do know right from wrong. I'm a firm believer in tough love and they are punished for inapropriate behavior. But when it comes to scum bags like that guy their rights should be thrown out the window. I can't beleive people are standing up for this creep. Is it because they are pedophiles themselves? We don't know and will never know. I hope not.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:32 PM
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So people who defend freedom of speech are paedophiles? There are many subjects that i would defend that i may not like or agree with, but my personal feelings on the material itself are irrelevant as are yours. Freedom of speech is exactly that...not freedom of speech as long as i agree with what you are saying/writing. There is no victim here or crime being committed.
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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I see. So, non-specific threats that target huge swathes of the population are fine, but specific threats are not? I'm afraid this kind of juggling is beyond me. There's no sense comparing this book to fiction. It's a non-fiction book. When a work comes under trial for obscenity, it must prove some societal/artistic worth. There is none of that here. It is a how-to book for pedofiles. It's not Nabokov.

"Nobody is going to be compelled to become a pedofile by reading this."
I hear this one a lot. But, it misses the point entirely. The author makes the claim himself, that the book is intended to show pedofiles how to a) not get caught, and b) get pleasure and c) receive a lighter sentence for their crimes. That's his own stated purpose for this work. It has nothing to do with converting people. It has everything to do with empowering existing pedofiles and propell those who may have never acted on their instincts out of fear, to act now because they can get away with it.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:35 PM
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Oh the old fire in the theater argument.

Don't you understand that the law that was broken was not him screaming "fire", but it was the immediate reaction of the audience that caused the infraction.
What if everyone just ignored the guy?

His words caused no social grievances.

They were merely words.

Now if he can be prosecuted for what he supposedly said that he supposedly did in this book to other children, then fine. Collect VICTIMS.

Just as in the case of screaming "Fire".
Victims were present and directly effected.
That is not a case of freedom of speech.

I agree with your idea of going after what he has actually done and leave the book out of it, because he will more than likely get off on the charge.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:35 PM
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how is it irrelevant if its the source of the evil?

i would think that be the most relevant, if you want to solve the problem.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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Unhinged??? lol ...please provide information why you think my comments give the immpression of "unhinged"
Let me read between your lines !!



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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Of course he was arrested and tried.
Did you manage to miss that whole media circus of a trial?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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Dude, let me tell you. There's some screwed up things that happen in society, and in the U.S. And a lot of things I dont agree with. But that is the cost of liberty and freedom, which is why we fought the Revolutionary War.

Voltaire said it best
"though i may not agree with what you say, i will defend to the death your right to say it"



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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Correct ..We all should have freedom of speach...except those that defend evil...this is probably why the world is in such a state ..as there are those that will stand up for those that do wrong!!....however, you one day will become a victim...and you will stand up in righteous indignation ...and no one will stand up for you ..as you are a victim...this will come to you!!



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:44 PM
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Here is a little bit of advice... Stop using kids as scapegoats to shove you agendas down other people's throats. If you really cared about your kids, you would be thinking about their future, and how much it is going to suck for them when they enter into the orwellian world you helped create for them. If they have any brains, they will hate you for helping create a less free world for them to live in. Of course with a parent like you, chances are they will be good little sheep that fall in line and do what they are told by authority.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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I was with you, up until the strawman lol. Good job there.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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lol... This coming from you is humor!.. Grow up and learn to address people without insults.. You'll find that their reaction is much more friendly.

If wanting this guy strung up for being a broken human.. is somehow conforming to TPTB... then sign me up..

Thats a really neato Avatar you have..



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by shuck
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Unhinged??? lol ...please provide information why you think my comments give the immpression of "unhinged"
Let me read between your lines !!



Quotes like this would be a good place to start:



And the normal person would not be reading about this in the first place..so why buy it!!..personally anyone that defends this as far as I am concerned ..is ..suspect!!


Defenders are the first amendment and freedom. Thats who you would deem as "suspect"?

As for reading between my lines.....Not sure if you are hitting on me or not, but I'm married, so uh no thanks.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:49 PM
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It's a shame to see a lesser evil used and sacrificed so the luke warm masses can hand over power to the greater evils.
I don't agree with the pedophile being prosecuted for exercising a right. Set up a sting operation at least rely on entrapment rather than trampling on all of our freedoms.



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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We can't threaten people, we can't harrass them with written letters or emails, we can't slander or lible them. No one is crying over those laws. So, why, are you defending what is obviously obscene illegal material? No, he's not allowed to write this revolting treatise, any more than I am able to write threatening letters or emails.


youve clearly stated your understanding to the legalities of these crimes

if i write a letter directed at you, and commit any of these crimes, you become a victim.

writing a book is not a crime and there is no victim.

the two are completely different.



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