The Future for American Youth: AMERICANS READ THIS

reply to post by 46ACE


well if we are called to die a martyr's death then die like martyrs we will do, but in the process the sheeple will amass out of pure detest. this battle has been raging long before we got here, but this battle will end with this generation, of that i know.

I hate these threads. Just a bunch of "Back in my day.." nonsense. Trust me, the youth of today will change this place for the better. Take anonymous, for example. I can assure you, most of them aren't even over 21, yet they are the driving force behind those DDOS attacks. Perhaps they are being reckless, but their intent is change for the better.

Technology brings knowledge, and with knowledge comes power. There is infinite amounts of knowledge on the web today, and it's at almost every youth in America's fingertips. It wasn't the same 30 years ago.

reply to post by W3RLIED2


A good idea would be to gather as many people as possible and all stand in front of the whitehouse on April 15th (tax day) and burn our 1040's (or whatever you file) on the front lawn! Even those that don't pay into it this year (You know the unemployed who can't find jobs) BUT we need to have some real taxpayers too, and not only burn them, really don't file your tax forms, if enough people did this, then the message would get across loud and clear. It would take all the entire working class to actually NOT pay this year at the very least to get our message across!!!! They cannot prosecute some 300 million people for tax evasion oh the nightmare of paperwork for the IRS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

If we could all stand together and do this beleive me, it'd be a very effective tool.
After all they would only get about 1% paying taxes (the highest earners) because of course, they would not join with the scoundrels(us) because we are beneath them but that is still a very small percentage of money the government would recieve.

I'm not a kid anymore, but in some ways I am still the "youth" of America -

I trust no one and feel everything is fake.

There is no such thing as sincerity, people just use you for their own devices.

There is no such thing as 'family' or even 'true love' as that is restricted to the good looking who have gigantic breasts and penises.

Intelligence is not an asset, it'll get you beat up. Or at best - used for your knowledge and tossed aside.

Everything sucks, all people suck, life sucks, and then you die.

I personally, from being a reasonably decent person who DID care - I do now feel that I have to be an asshole and step on others just to survive. Which I can't quite bring myself to do so I guess I am a failure then.

I am trying to scrape together $ for a boob job. Maybe things will be better then.........

Originally posted by W3RLIED2


The GOALS of action taken against our government should fall along these lines as follows.

Reduce the House of Representatives from the current 435 members to 218 members and Senate members from 100 to 50 (one per State). Also reduce remaining staff by 25%.

Why do you think the Census Data is not in the news? Even though Barrack gave citizenship to 1+million foreigners last year....America's population has declined.

California for example has lots of House of Representative seats because illegal immigrants can be counted to get them House seats. Problem is...California has had millions flee the State.

They no longer can justify the House seats they have. Which is why the Census Data isn't in the news.

Originally posted by free_form
I hate these threads. Just a bunch of "Back in my day.." nonsense. Trust me, the youth of today will change this place for the better.

You should cool out. You may need the "old man" to pay your bus fair and room to DC......jr.

reply to post by ldyserenity


I think thats an equally fantastic idea that could really take a hold and make an impact. That would also be one more show of unity between the kids of the US and the kids protesting in London. Among the students there are also those heading up a tax revolt because of the bailouts for big banks.

At this point in time we must organize. If we organize, we survive.

reply to post by W3RLIED2




your thread is very valid when it comes to starting a revolution. i couldnt find anything that i disagree with actually.

what i dont understand is seeing how youre a freemason. (or assuming you are one)
how are you going to oppose your own government that is the nerve center of what you believe & practice?

it just seems a little contradictory to me. am i missing something here?

reply to post by W3RLIED2


Brother, I feel ya.

The "wheels of the universe" are already in motion. Though the turn slowly, they grind evenly and without halt.

We cannot stop what is coming....but we can prepare ourselves and our children.

Some of the stuff in Europe (imho) is a result of the "warm blanket" of socialism being pulled off and the cold of reality hitting kids that expected the world to be handed to them without cost. Britain and Germany are cutting back on "social spending" due to its inability to be sustained. Some of these kids are just freakin anarchists in general.

Note the loss of the Sacred Thorn at Glastonbury. It will likely be saved as before but the act itself is vile. This tree is sacred to Pagan and Christian alike!

We are all players playing a part. I'm of two minds on a march on washington.

1. Hell yeah! Let'em know we're pissed!

2. With the signal of 1, all hell will likely rain (or reign ) down. There are vast forces at work and many are out of human hands at this point.

Hold to what you know, seek understanding, gather knowledge and PRESERVE IT! Old history books. Encyclopedias, dictonaries, treatise's (sp?) on ancient lore. Find it and keep it safe.

I think that these "kindle" ebooks are horrible. With an actual book, you can save it ad finitum. With a kindle, they are as good as the unit is. Will you be able to use the kindle in 100 years? Doubt it. Wanna get a kindle to supplement your library (preserve the hard copies)? Heck yeah. great.

I've found it odd that the ebook is called a "kindle". Fahrenheit 451 anyone?

reply to post by Pervius


Oh yeah, I know this first hand from living in california my whole life. the people staying in Cali are either stuck there or have the financial means to weather the economic crisis, or are in complete ownership of their house with no mortgage payments.

Once the governator announced a couple years ago that we we're in a 40 billion dollar deficit the smart people got out ASAP. The ones who stayed faced higher property taxes due to prop 13, and the others got foreclosed on due to toxic loans. I know all about that first hand.

It's one more reason we should take a real stand and tell them we've had enough of their crap. One more lie to sweep under the rug...

Originally posted by stuncrazy
reply to post by Reddupo

 

i'm sorry you feel that way, but i can assure you there are organizations and large numbers of youth that are not immature and unwilling to act. there is in fact a fire brewing waiting for the winds to blow it along it's path. this movement is a very long awaited movement my friend. long awaited indeed.

Yes and it could be long awaited to be hyjacked. This is one thing an older guy could warn you about. If you want to protest that your generation will not be rode along like the ones before you then trust me when I say that there are many older americans that dont want to see that happen to you either. But you have to grow up and get out of the "youth" mindset. Understand there are many older fighters that fought in their day and still do and they are a good source of suport.

If you get into a movement like this and come to see that one of the driving forces is a hate for the older generation for thier "failure" then you are being led along and used. Get out.

Originally posted by W3RLIED2
Kids from the age group of 18-30 are going to have it rough, but that is the demographic that can also make some change if we get our crap together before it's too late.

It would be very beneficial if this entire drama with wikileaks would cause internet usage to be severely restricted. My reasoning being that nearly everybody that I know in the above mentioned age group is obsessed with their facebook and twitter accounts, and as long as they have access to them it's unlikely that many people will even care enough. I think if these things are taken, people will be pissed and want to do something about it.

Originally posted by W3RLIED2
reply to post by ldyserenity

 

I think thats an equally fantastic idea that could really take a hold and make an impact. That would also be one more show of unity between the kids of the US and the kids protesting in London. Among the students there are also those heading up a tax revolt because of the bailouts for big banks.

At this point in time we must organize. If we organize, we survive.

Dude, I told my dad and others clear back in the 80s that they were trying to price the common mans kid out of college. They saw years ago that the common mans children would never buy into the elitist bullcrap to independent and real world savy.

reply to post by Cobra.EXE


One of the underlying truths of Freemasonry, and a reason that Masonry continues to inspire me, is the fundamental belief that all Men are FREE. It's about Freedom. My political views do not reflect my being a Mason or not. There is no party allegiance I hold because of my membership in the Order.

Another note I would like to touch on briefly, (because i don't want this particular thread to turn into a Mason vs Anti-mason debacle) is that a large group of Masons that founded our country on the very principles I am trying to express now, were also considered rebels, traitors, and radicals. I have no hesitation in saying that Men such as Brothers Washington, Franklin and Revere to name a few, would be turning double backflip somersaults in their respective graves, if they were able to view how badly our country has been crippled by corruption.

The Square and Compass you see in my avatar is put there specifically to identify myself as a Mason to other Brothers in web land. It has nothing to do with politics or religion. My stance on any action taken in DC in protest of our government is mine and my own. Masonry neither endorses it, nor condemns it. I'm pretty sure there are Brothers who disagree with me completely over my politics. Which is a reason why there is no politics or religion allowed in a Lodge of Masons. However, we are not in a Lodge of Masons, we are in a public forum.

To be honest I was ticking away the time in my head as to when some one would bring up my membership in Freemasonry and my positions of reforming our government. If any of you can walk away with anything in regards to me being a Freemason and my political views, it's that the two do not interfere with each other in the least.

If anything, in my heart, I feel that Freemasonry has enhanced my ability to speak up about the problems that plague our world. Freemasonry not only is founded on the Brotherly Love within the Order, but also that we are one Family of Man, an earthbound human family. It's for this reason ultimately that I feel the necessity to take a stand against corruption, and against tyranny.

Even Freemasons get fed up with the BS that gets shoved down are throats by the PTB..... Well at least this Freemason.

reply to post by felonius


That is Wise advice, Bro. The lessons of history have and will continue to educate us in present time. And when the future becomes the present, I hope our actions will resonate with men and women of that time.

And I agree. Theres something fishy about a computer library app called Kindle.... I would never throw a book in the kindling!!!!!

A little late to this game, but I'm on board. It's about time someone started something, glad you did!

reply to post by Bones_


It's never too late. In fact we're only 13 hours into this endeavor. We have another 7 months and a couple weeks to get this organized, planned and ready to execute. I am proud to have your support.

Please u2u me if you want to exchange personal contact information. We'll need all the help we can get.

reply to post by W3RLIED2


The ironic thing is, the OP is assuming these people would agree with him as to how a government should run. Could you imagine if the UK lost National Insurance? Do you think there is such a thing as "states rights" in the UK? No. Trust me, these are not "kindred" spirits for the tea party folk. Europeans believe in big government. Don't delude yourself.

Ok everyone,

Small change of plans. I thought it would be better if I could get eyes on what I have put together now and we can all build it from here. I'm only one man and I'm not going to be able to see the world through everyone's myriad perspectives.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by zcflint05


I don't consider myself a tea partier, and neither is the action proposed related to the tea party in any way. How you cam to this conclusion eludes me.

The tea party ship set sail after the republicans took them over about a year into their attempt at 'being different'. Than once again, the same ol dung came pouring out of their mouths.

So far the only label we've come up with for this plan of action is TFAY

The future for american youth.

Call it a movement, call it a revolution, call it reform.... call it supreme pizza for all I care. The title is all together meaningless. What is important however is individual Americans banding together under one common banner for a definitive purpose. That purpose has been roughly outlined in my OP, and we will have a final draft Mission Statement prepared for public consumption my early January.