Why is white pride a bad thing?

About time someone said what were all thinking.

Originally posted by vkturbo
here is the best way to put it it's an email going round

that was the worst crap I have ever read. Stop acting the like a victim.

reply to post by WashingtonGrewHemp


You cant explain it yourself so you give up. Sorry if i dont follow your religious agenda.

Later, sucka!

may I also add, Fox News and Fox (entertainment) are network shrines to white people and the very essence of what makes someone "white". Every single person who isn't aryan by physical description is usually a very toned down "white" version of an ethnicity (see Dave Chapelle's "Chuck Taylor" for a good example/parody)

"white"=not being apparently ethnic

reply to post by nightbringr


I have no religious agenda. I hate religion.

reply to post by MrSpad


Thanksgiving? Really? How on earth is this a European holiday? It was my understanding that this is an American holiday.

"" I've been thinking about this alot lately. Why can every other culture celebrate their culture in the US. but if whites want to celebrate their culture or if they are proud of their heritage, they are automatically a racist?

I realize that whites haven't had the best track record but neither have all these other cultures.

Whites are meant to bear the guilt of Slavery when it is a documented fact that Jews were at the Heart of the slave trade. (although you wont see this in a Speilberg movie). Newport, Rhode island was the center of the Slave trade, highest jewish population in America and the oldest synagogue in the US. (Brazil and the Carribean slave trade were also dominated by jews)

They have no problem celebrating their jewish heritage.
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Hispanics can celebrate their culture freely and happily, even though their history is just a dark as whitey's with all their killing of natives in south and central america.

I'm just wondering if this guilt injected into the white race over and over again has a deeper agenda. Kinda like the catholic church instills guilt and fear to take away your power.
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I think every culture should be able to celebrate their heritage freely. Just wondering why whites are not allowed by the powers that be. ""

Unluckily for ' True White human beings (with a gene test as proof of their true whiteness, as there is nothing white about let's say Georges y W. Bush ) ( White North Americans and White Europeans), " The definitions of the terms racism and sexism has been twisted and wronly used since a few decades by some beings that are well bent of the annihilation of True White people around the globe ...by controlling/creating and using mind-corrupted /mind- manipulating medias, taken-over educational institutions...music (Hiphop is the prominent style that come to my mind) , provoking, devraved, violence and sex-oriented magazines/movies( which can be clearly and easily noticed, judged, discoved and seen as mass-manipulating, provoquing, culture-twisting and re-imaginings the True White American/Europeans culture...
Let's examine a few definitions here that i have found on the first page of google:
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# the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races
# discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn.

There is absolutly nothing in the word racism that states that it is about the prejudice that members of one race are " Superior to another race". I find those two definitions to be ignorant and idiotic by nature.

Make no Mistake, The TRUE definition of racism is Racism is making the differences between the races and the true definition of sexism is making the differences between the sexes. Simple as that.

With that said, my skin color is not white, but beige. By my definitions, i am sexist, racist and (TRUE---> " beige one" -supremacist because i i find true Whites to be the most beautiful human beings which have made/build the most, went the farest to outer space, and have the most beautiful and intriguing culture that has ever graced the Cosmos so far...The top. , Indians come second and Asians third. True Whites reign supreme in every fields of life...

By no means Gegorges W. Bush, dick cheney and whatnot are True Whites. Most beige skins people that ive came into are by NO mean Full true Whites and are not entitled to the same respect, love, and worshipping that i have for true Whites.

reply to post by piddles


can you really trust fox news? it's owned by Rupert Murdoch.

Although I do agree many minorities will immediately turn to the race card and making white pride seem racist would seem ethically idiotic. The whole reason it is this way in the United States is because of the population of each race, the minorities are called that for a reason:

Population by Race:

White: 74.8%/229 million
Black or African American:12.4%/38.1 million
Other Race:4.9%/14.9 million
Asian:4.5%/13.8 million
Two or more races:2.4%/7.5 million
American Indian or Alaska Native:0.8%/2.5 million
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander:0.15%/0.454 million

So until these figures change, the simple fact is that Whites are the majority and will be held to a higher standard then that of the minorities, the way things have always been... well at least since the Emancipation Proclamation. But this is why White's like us will be held to a higher standard.

Originally posted by piddles
may I also add, Fox News and Fox (entertainment) are network shrines to white people and the very essence of what makes someone "white". Every single person who isn't aryan by physical description is usually a very toned down "white" version of an ethnicity (see Dave Chapelle's "Chuck Taylor" for a good example/parody)

"white"=not being apparently ethnic

Dave Chapelle huh...
Alright now I know your IQ and age, both very close numerically.

Originally posted by Soldier of God

Originally posted by piddles
may I also add, Fox News and Fox (entertainment) are network shrines to white people and the very essence of what makes someone "white". Every single person who isn't aryan by physical description is usually a very toned down "white" version of an ethnicity (see Dave Chapelle's "Chuck Taylor" for a good example/parody)

"white"=not being apparently ethnic

Dave Chapelle huh...
Alright now I know your IQ and age, both very close numerically.

I've been 170 for years!

edit: LOL SOLDIER OF GOD, says way more about you than "Chapelle's Show" says about me

Originally posted by piddles

Originally posted by Soldier of God

Originally posted by piddles
may I also add, Fox News and Fox (entertainment) are network shrines to white people and the very essence of what makes someone "white". Every single person who isn't aryan by physical description is usually a very toned down "white" version of an ethnicity (see Dave Chapelle's "Chuck Taylor" for a good example/parody)

"white"=not being apparently ethnic

Dave Chapelle huh...
Alright now I know your IQ and age, both very close numerically.

I've been 170 for years!

Ha ha ha, that was good!

Originally posted by Gazrok
We all bear the sins of our forefathers, simple as that.

Just as Germans must always shoulder the burden of the Holocaust, so must we Whites shoulder the burden of Slavery.

Now, that does NOT mean that I feel responsible for something long dead ancestors did. No, I do not accept that, as I had no input or involvement with events previous to my birth. However, I do RECOGNIZE that such things will impact how others view me, regardless of right or wrong.

I'm sorry man but that is such BS coming from a moderator.

Nowhere does it state in my beliefs or up-bringing to be ashamed or feel guilty about my ancestors individual actions.
They did bad things? Probably.
They did good things? Certainly.
Did they answer for all that via karma, dharma and the afterlife? Beyond question.
So therefore there's no shame, white-guilt or head hanging from this call-sign.

The Roman Empire did a lot of hardship to the Britons of Britannia. After them William of Normandy finished the job and dragged the country into Feudal slavery, the reminants of which last to this day in the UK.
This is not to mention the raiders that would raid and skirmish the island for slaves and treasure.
Also of note are the Barbary Coast pirate's who specialised in enslaving white girls and women for the slave-bazaars of North Africa.

So to those that say white people haven't known hardship, they need to drink a cup of 'wake the f*** up'

Originally posted by FermiFlux
Being white isn't a culture.

And other races don't celebrate because they are whatever colour they are, they celebrate the history of their race, and the hardships that have been overcome.

if being an Caucasian-American isnt a culture than neither is being an African-American. And since an AA is clearly a culture...(that has many cultures within it) so is being a Caucasian-American...cuz it too has many cultures in it.

Oppression can influence the emergence of new cultures...but it is not required for a culture to exist.

The civil rights movement of the 1960's have left many people with the belief that the slave trade was exclusively a European/USA phenomenon and only evil white people were to blame for it. This is a simplicistic scenario that hardly reflects the facts.
Thousands of records of transactions are available on a CDROM prepared by Harvard University and several comprehensive books have been published recently on the origins of modern slavery (namely, Hugh Thomas' The Slave Trade and Robin Blackburn's The Making Of New World Slavery) that shed new light on centuries of slave trading.
What these records show is that the modern slave trade flourished in the early middle ages, as early as 869, especially between Muslim traders and western African kingdoms. For moralists, the most important aspect of that trade should be that Muslims were selling goods to the African kingdoms and the African kingdoms were paying with their own people. In most instances, no violence was necessary to obtain those slaves. Contrary to legends and novels and Hollywood movies, the white traders did not need to savagely kill entire tribes in order to exact their tribute in slaves. All they needed to do is bring goods that appealed to the kings of those tribes. The kings would gladly sell their own kins.

reply to post by Killface


See there you go grabbing some incident, who knows what it was really about and saying," look look double standards". Do you want to see the untold number of lynchings of black men and women just because they were black by whites who by the way brought their entire families to celebrate it? Now do we really want to fill this thread with the misdeeds of "some" people or do you want to address the OP questions?

I am a little late with my comment but, I thought I should offer opinion being that I am an autochthon, native to Amaru-khan (not named after amerigo ves whatever, research that wasn't even his real name, go to the library please wiki will not give you everything.)
American by definition from the beginning of this was country was "of the copper colored indigenous, autochthonus people of the american continent".
I beg you to bare with me as I make my point. please.
The descendants of pilgrims are not American but U.S. citizens(which is why whites give mexicans a hard time) if we are trying to relate them to a color which in my opinion has to be the most elementary thing I have ever heard of. The science of race is juvenile, and it stems from the adaption to the human family. I read some of your comments and I know what your trying to say. But it is even more wrong to associate europe with "white" as it is viewed historically because I am educated enough to know the lack of pigmentation is caused not sunlight alone but by inadequate nutrients, vitamins, and minerals that cannot grow in europe. We know this true because there are other people around the world that live in harsh, cold climates and they still produce melanin due to their diet and customs.

With those facts on the table one can blindly assume that europes most early inhabitants and cultures were form brown if not darker people considering other facts like it takes time to adapt. Wouldn't you know it, there is scientific data to back up this radical claim. Start with the grimaldes skulls of europe, and what europe was before and after moors peacefully conquered europe.please get a book not an article and you will see europe didnt even have a major university for the public like people that europeans would deem primative.
Study Adaptation not evolution, and you can see how man can become an ape, or even a super-conductor. These are polar opposites, originally the same species but grew according to the 'laws' that governed the earth at the time (pole shifts, and other phenomena)
White/European culture is something I think should not be celebrated in the way that it is. We are taught the father's of medicine, math, philosophy(all which are untrue) and all of the elements of civilization come from Europe. I even heard a poster make a reference to his "Greek" heritage and he claimed he was white. This example sort of shows how far the plague/pride has gone because I am certain the Greek people are of a "olive" hue. On earth olives are only "green and black", and those vibrations are far from people with the characteristics of people with heavy phenomelanin pink,ruddy and/or white. People in this post keep making references to St. pattys day because in their head they automatically associate "white" with ireland....For those who don't know there is a rich "black" history there(including the creation of the leprachaun and gold, and the extermination of them myth)Some people even go as far as saying Egyptians were white. That particular word is Greek for 'people with burnt faces'. For the record no matter who is embalmed, over time the hair is going to become blonde and the red-hair is from dye......I could go on and on about the false pride, but why.?.

But maybe that is because the United States was founded by White Europeans.

The United States was not founded by Europeans alone. That mentality is exactly what I speak of. Read Cristopher Columbus diary logs, he landed in what is called "Puerto Rico" "with his expert navigator of the seas, Peter de negro. Many, black europeans, spanish Moors, and free Africans had a stake in the new world. As a matter of fact they were the first to actually set foot(how did the navigator know where to navigate??). The latter Spanish and Dutch are the first within the european family to disrespect people solely based on the content of ones eumelanin. Im not trying to pick at you or anyone else but that perspective gets under my skin because its fueled by blatant lies.
I agree with you for the most part about so called black history

Blacks were a key part in the industrial expansion and growth of the US, again unfortunately they weren't paid a fair wage for their efforts.

They weren't payed a fair wage! How about they worked sunrise to sunset for NO THING. Test your pride....You would probably rather agree with building killing machines like 1 tank that cost some million dollars than to pay our fallen brothers with the billion dollar industries they built(the thriving tobacco inudstry and many others). We would have running chance with china imho because it all comes back home. But nope smh the only country on the face of the planet that hasn't repaired itself.
My point......
Black History includes the world its not about ones heavy content of eumelanin. For example the Black panthers over-excercised their constitutional rights and they welcomed and practiced with everyone.Yes for you shallow people their were plenty of so-called 'white' black panthers. The panthers created a breakfast program where they would feed all of the kids of all races in the community for FREE before the government implemented a free food program.
White Pride equates to the oppression of others for their superiority to remain prominent, so please do not mention or try to compare white pride with any other false division of our human family because its not the same. No other "proud" people bombed churches and killed kids because their pride required them to do so....SMH. Or Hung people because of "god".

Outside of the systematically synthesized watered down education system that people proudly exclaim their worth and self-value through, there is REAL knowledge out there that doesn't require an institution for you to obtain the true facts. When one can study the Earth's history without the vale of race one can truly appreciate how valuable we are as a whole.
Let me clarify black and how it should be viewed imho. Black is the vibration that sits at the center of a black hole. The universe associates that vibration with things that are beyond the vision of the human mind. When you stare at the depths of ocean, it spirals into black. It is the primordial element that allowed light to shine(blackness is not darkness as it is in contrast lightness ie. dark matter vs black hole).
So scientist associate early humans with the 'adapted' so-called Negroid(it should be afracoid but for science sake) which is considered black. Every male on planet earth descends and carries a y chromosome to prove that they come from what is called Africa. Despite what any climate has done to them. When one stares into the scope of human history or the history of life it spirals out beyond our comprehension as if we were trying to view the bottom of the ocean from the surface. So in essence,if your a thinking human, your of the human family continent, of planet Africa (rather you like it or not).....To answer your question a little more straight forward. One should be proud not of the fruit of the tree which may come in many colors depending on the 'enviroment' but its roots alone carry the foundation for the whole tree and it makes sure that it stands tall. That is what we all of us should be proud of. The roots of every tree are all the same color no matter the fruit, like the heart of man.

Much peace and blessings and my goal is not to hurt or put anyone down. I just wish to uplift EVERYONE. Be proud of our family.

Originally posted by WatchRider

Nowhere does it state in my beliefs or up-bringing to be ashamed or feel guilty about my ancestors individual actions.

I see. So whilst the white pride proponents want to celebrate the heritage attached to skin color they happen to be born with they only want to cherry pick that which they value and discard the rest. Basically I'm proud of being white for being white but it's got nothing to do with that stuff from the past. Heritage is heritage, if one is going to celebrate it then that have to acknowledge all of it, including the shameful bits. You can't have it both ways. And if it isn't about the past then what, the present? What great achievement is it to be born of a particular skin color?

reply to post by NoJoker13

I strongly disagree. If you have 2 categories white(no pigmentation), and you sit there and divide the other category based on a geographical locations, thats not fair......am I the only person to see something wrong with this??? The same goes for I.Q. I.Q. is directly linked to the environment. I would like to see what is the so-called I.Q. of whites when they are put in a tibetan village with no computers or translators. Do you understand??
I will address your post directly with this answer. The earth's grass, plants, and animals of all kinds produce pigmentation. This number out weighs the number of living things that carry the recessive trait that is derived from albinism which you refer to as white. To thin k that you are of the majority is the pride that the earth doesnt need. They are called minorities because lawfully they are viewed as "minors" because they lack competence and the ability to understand the judicial system because they are foreign to it. Go read a little more my friend.

reply to post by mayabong


So Im half scottisch, a quater spainish, among a few others, at some point in the future everyone will be all one color anyways so to me any talk about who did what it really dosnt matter. What matters is what or who someone is capable of a the momment.