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China fisherman dies in clash with S Korea coast guard

The crew of a Chinese trawler and a South Korean patrol boat have clashed, leaving one fisherman dead and two missing, South Korean officials say.


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Add some more fuel to the fire I guess..

Originally posted by RizeorDie
this is from a video game

This game was written by the same guys who made that anti-Soviet PR yarn "Red Dawn". It also received a lot of direction from CIA operatives (as discussed in a thread in the WATS forum).

This is modern American propaganda, teaching young Americans that the North Koreans are so dangerous that they will invade America, and it is now an interactive means to train how to fight them. When did video games go from entertainment to political agendas? Same with those new Call of Duty garbage games, portraying Russia as an unstable nation where terrorists are able to take over armies and nuclear weapons to attack America with, and Western special forces save the day like usual. Disgusting

N. Korea accuses U.S. of providing 'human shield' for planned S. Korean artillery drill

Apparently the US has sent 20 military personnel to Yeonpyeong island to assist in the live fire drills scheduled for this week.
Hmmm.... so does that mean if N.Korea retaliates like they did last time that the US could declare a state of war exists between N.Korea and the US for attacking US citizens? This is interesting

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China has been allowing this kind of behavior for a long time now, they have been doing this kind of violations with Japan too and every time they were called on it, they said they didn't know what was up or that the other side was lying or that they were in their own waters.

This is Chinese government provocations.

The UN Security Council will probably convene an emergency session on Saturday on the escalating tension between North and South Korea, council diplomats said.

Diplomats said the meeting was tentatively scheduled for 3 p.m., although it could change.

The meeting was called at the request of Russia

Russia is afraid that war is imminent on the peninsula... North Korea is about to get it's big carrot....or war is about to break out.

Russia doing this is quite significant. Hopefully the meeting is a success and they find some kind of real solution.

Kyodo: China summons ambassadors of both #Koreas to urge restraint amid war fears. about 7 hours ago via TweetDeck

Not just Russia afraid of war.

Fresh threat via KCNA: "We will settle thoroughly with the U.S. for the extreme crisis & its consequences that arise on Korean Peninsula." about 5 hours ago via TweetDeck

kaedotcom North Korea complains about balloons carrying leaflets and "waste paper" US dollar bills. http://(link tracking not allowed)/hu1lg4 about 6 hours ago via bitly Retweeted by W7VOA and 5 others

Waste paper dollar bills...they are right about that.

Beijing stern over Japan's Diaoyu Islands plot

China lashed a Japanese city's move to commemorate Japan's "stealthy" occupation of the Diaoyu Islands more than a century ago, saying any scheme to infringe upon its territorial sovereignty is nothing but fruitless labor.

More Japan-China trouble.

South Korea will go ahead with a planned live-fire drill on its frontline island bombarded by North Korea last month, officials here said Saturday, despite the North's stepped-up threats of further retaliations.
STILL A GO.

On the gravity of the situation :
How to Stop the Next Korean War

For the first time in decades, a real war on the Korean Peninsula is possible.

Seems the UN meeting will not be held today...
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On Saturday, Russia requested an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council on North Korea, U.N. diplomats said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Council members were discussing the timing of the meeting, but Mark Kornblau, spokesman for the U.S. Mission to the U.N., said it would not be held on Saturday.

Hopefully South Korea don't start their drills today... please please please please.

EDIT : Apparently deployment of more US troops in SKorea is seriously on the table. Not a big surprise considering the events in the last few days and the experts saying it should be done... Word coming out of reserves/national guard.

I don't know if the deployment will be only if war breaks out... or if limited skirmish breaks out, or before the drill as a deterrent...

Thing is, if it's done... what will China/Russia/North Korea think/do?

Originally posted by Vitchilo
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This ain't appeasement. Appeasement is when the other guy is ABLE to carry out expansion. North Korea ain't able to do that. They'll lose for sure in a war.

What you want to do, is SAVE A DOZEN, maybe A MILLION people from dying.

When it ain't you that is on the line, it's easy to say ``let's get this thing started``.

Russia urges South Korea to scrap planned firing drill

Russia summoned the US and South Korean ambassadors Friday to express "deep concern" about a live-fire drill planned by Seoul amid mounting tensions with North Korea, the foreign ministry said.

"We strongly call on South Korea to refrain from holding the planned artillery firing in order to prevent a further escalation of tensions on the Korean peninsula," the foreign ministry statement said in a statement.

Basically Russia saying to the US and South Korea : STOP YOUR BS.

And don't you forget that US TROOPS will be on the island this time. If US troops are killed you can bet your bottom dollar that republicans will call for war and maybe even pass a draft.

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Originally posted by Vitchilo
Hopefully South Korea don't start their drills today... please please please please.

EDIT : Apparently deployment of more US troops in SKorea is seriously on the table. Not a big surprise considering the events in the last few days and the experts saying it should be done... Word coming out of reserves/national guard.

I don't know if the deployment will be only if war breaks out... or if limited skirmish breaks out, or before the drill as a deterrent...

Thing is, if it's done... what will China/Russia/North Korea think/do?

The drill is rescheduled for monday or tuesday. Securing north korea is a necessity, who cares what those bozos think. Those clowns are not as powerful as what people believe.

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"The drill is rescheduled for monday or tuesday. Securing north korea is a necessity, who cares what those bozos think. Those clowns are not as powerful as what people believe."

i'm curious if an eclipse on tuesday 6-15pm EAT(australia)would have any effect on this situation. some lunar madness maybe? and mercury is retrograde so communication will be challenged. just a puzzling thought.

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It looks like all anyone needs is the excuse to pull the trigger.The South feels a loss of face for its feeble responce,for the last attack.The North is emboldened by this lack of responce.....The North is in danger of believing their own bull#.It is winter and the North is getting hungry. If the drill goes ahead its War.If I were in Psyops,Id be sending food across the Border.With stickers saying."From the USA with love"..

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I was just wondering the same thing about the full moon and lunar eclipse on the solstice....hmmm keep your ears and eyes open somethings cooking...and it is not good.

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U.S. Canon fodder being stationed in south korea should give this scenario an obvious outcome...
It's a given that the trigger WILL be pulled but the question is timing and yes that bit with from the USA with love would be incendiary but not as bad as sending Evil Kenival through Ethiopia with a sandwich strapped to his back.

Why would you re-schedule a military exercise due to bad weather? Isn't part of such an exercise to prepare personnel to perform their duties in real world conditions? Sounds to me like they are stalling for time so they can wait for things to cool down first.

Awesome move by the US, putting a reason to be involved in the retaliation.
I wonder how they picked the US group..
Kinda reminds me of one of the bugs bunny cartoons where his job is to test the bombs with a hammer.

South Korea is sure deploying the big guns for this one.

N.Korea echoes threat of ‘self-defense attacks’

The Yeonpyeong Island drill will reportedly begin at around 10 a.m. on the day it is ordered. Some 60 percent of the guns on the island will participate, firing in a southwest direction. The remaining 40 percent will be aimed at North Korea’s coastal artillery positions in preparation for a contingency.

Prior to the drill, KF-16s from Haemi Air Base in Seosan, South Chungcheong Province and F-15Ks from Daegu Air Base will patrol the skies around Yeonpyeong Island. South Korean military authorities plan to launch precision strikes with F-15Ks against North Korean coastal artillery positions if North Korea carries out an artillery attack on Yeonpyeong Island. Prior to restarting the maritime live-fire drills, South Korean military authorities reinforced their military personnel on the Five West Coast Islands. On Yeonpyeong Island, they boosted the number of K-9 self-propelled artillery pieces from six to 12, and have deployed upgraded counter battery radar. They have also carried out an emergency deployment of Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS) and Cheonma surface-to-air missiles capable of reaching North Korean aircraft.

BTW wouldn't be surprised if the day of the drill if North Korea fires anything at the island, Obama announced a +50.000 US troops deployment in SKorea.

Defending Korea Line Seen Contrary to Law by Kissinger Remains U.S. Policy

The sea border that has become the main battleground between North and South Korea 57 years after it was imposed by a U.S. general has been called legally indefensible by American officials for more than three decades.

Then-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger wrote in a 1975 classified cable that the unilaterally drawn Northern Limit Line was “clearly contrary to international law.” Two years before, the American ambassador said in another cable that many nations would view South Korea and its U.S. ally as “in the wrong” if clashes occurred in disputed areas along the boundary.

Well ain't that nice.

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South Korea can do what the hell they like in their own waters / on their own land / territory.

If NK want to be complete Muppets and start something, when SK have done nothing wrong, then SK should just obliterate the North, once and for all.

Little Kims days are up, we're sick of hearing him have his childish tantrums.

If I had his fax / tel., I would tell him personally, what an idiot!

Emergency UN security council meeting tomorrow at 11AM ET.

Hopefully it calm things down.

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I hate to say it, but here goes . . . the U.N. is ineffective and useless. It has done so well already with China sitting in a veto seat. They have become nothing more than little-Kim's advocate. He throws a fit and they give him a ba-ba to calm him down. ... Again USELESS.

South Korea not scrapping drill despite threat

South Korea said on Sunday bad weather was delaying the start of a live-fire exercise that prompted North Korean threats of war, adding that it had no plans to scrap the drills despite international calls for restraint.

The U.N. Security Council is expected to convene an emergency session on Sunday on the escalating tension between North and South Korea in the hope of issuing some kind of statement to help ease the tension in the region.

North Korea has called the artillery fire drill by the South, on Yeonpyeong island which was attacked last month, a suicidal war move that would trigger a full-out conflict on the Korean peninsula and said it would strike back in self-defense.

Analysts were skeptical the North would carry out the threat it issued on Friday, which rattled financial markets, but it added to the already tense situation in the peninsula which has been described as "extremely precarious" and a "tinderbox" by U.S. and Chinese officials.

Weather conditions worsened on the normally sleepy, idyllic island of fishermen, forcing the military to push back a planned one-day live-fire drill past the weekend. It had been scheduled for some time between December 18 and 21.

"There is no plan to cancel the exercise. The factor we're looking at is the weather condition," a Defense Ministry official said on the condition of anonymity.

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Apparently " Global Strike force Command" is on High alert..and as this is comprised of long range tactical Bombers,it looks as if NK might be passing into the pages of history..Source "Before its news .com"..Much more air traffic reported from Guam..

DRILLS HAVE COMMENCED

twitter.com...

# Reuters just send out as a "bulletin" that new #ROK live-fire exercises have started. It was on Twitter from an hour ago. #Koreas about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

Fresh threat via KCNA: "We will settle thoroughly with the U.S. for the extreme crisis & its consequences that arise on Korean Peninsula."