N. Korea Crisis - Updated as News come to hand

excellent job on keeping up with the thread man other people try to steal your news happens to me a lot sounds like its gonna happen soon.


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I've checked this thread daily... it's a hot topic for sure. Hopefully the war doesn't break out but it really seems this is what is intended thus far by action alone.

Time will time, I still pray for peace.

Pray for snow on Yeonpyeong island! Somebody has to back down before another nuclear warhead is used in anger. It's Christmas ffs.

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Thing is the vast majority of people in Korea didn't know what Christmas even was before the American presence in Korea during the war... they're not Christians so they don't give a flying potato about Christmas...

The House just passed a 725 billion $ defense bill... nice.

And yeah postponing drills because of weather ... we don't do that in NATO... maybe they do that often in Asia but it would be stupid...

South Korean marines patrol along the wharf on Yeonpyeong island near the maritime border between the two Koreas on December 17, 2010. North Korea's military threatened on December 17, to strik...e back if South Korea goes ahead with a planned live-fire drill on a border island, state media reported.

I've read the yellow band around the helmets read TONG IL, "Reunification". Seems they have decided what will come of this already

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Reunification through force or through negotiation?

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Well, I think we all hope for negotiation...

Maybe Mr. Richardson worked a little magic.

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Its not likely, look at Google news

SEOUL — South Korea's military said it would go ahead with a live-fire drill on a border island bombarded by North Korea last month, despite the North's threat to strike back again with deadlier firepower. But an AFP photographer on Yeonpyeong island said the atmosphere was calm and a media report said the one-day training exercise -- scheduled for sometime between Saturday and Tuesday -- may be delayed till next week. "There is no change in our stance with regards to the live-fire exercise," a defence ministry spokesman told AFP. "We cannot confirm... whether we will carry out the exercise today."

Asian correspondent for Globe And Mail has left Seoul...

@hohocho I just left Seoul, actually. Back in Beijing now. 20 minutes ago via web in reply to hohocho

Probably too scared... and he has reasons to.

@clancycnn I still share your assessment that these are extremely dangerous times on Korean Peninsula. 5 minutes ago via Mobile Web

And on the attitude of South Koreans...

@clancycnn Polling I saw showed 80 per cent of South Koreans felt "insecure." About two-thirds favoured "limited military retaliation" 6 minutes ago via Mobile Web in reply to clancycnn

clancycnn Even in March, only about 30 percent of South Koreans wanted military retaliation. Today -- 80 percent say they would support a strike. about 14 hours ago via web

South Koreans have now woken up from their numbness. Hopefully this will make Little Kim think hard.

Officials at the South's defense ministry said the exact timing of the drill will be announced hours before it begins, depending on weather conditions. Strong winds and fog there have made it difficult for the South to start the drill this weekend, a senior ministry official said.

Island residents worried over planned live-fire drill after N. Korean warning
Well of course they are... it's their home after all.

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That's the problem, the lack of cooperation from either side. it is an age old story.

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Well they are Marines, so I'm going to guess it's not negotiation that they have in mind.

Can anyone confirm or deny that's what the band says?

Im begging, somebody give me one damnn good reason why this stuff isnt updated on CNN, NBC, Fox, any of the news stations? I dont want any answers about political bias or # like that, theyre still talking about the ship that sunk months ago.

Is this or is this not a big deal?

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
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Reunification through force or through negotiation?

All i should say is to read the quote bellow.

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Göring at the Nuremberg trials

Originally posted by Plan2exist18
Im begging, somebody give me one damnn good reason why this stuff isnt updated on CNN, NBC, Fox, any of the news stations? I dont want any answers about political bias or # like that, theyre still talking about the ship that sunk months ago.

I don't watch MSM, but I would say it's good news that the MSM are not talking about that. That means the elite are not hyping up the propaganda... so this means the US doesn't want a war. And that is good.

They are not talking about it because they are too focused on the domestic politics... the blame game. Too busy cheering Obama and the Democrats for passing bills.

Me thinks once the US government closes, starting Sunday at 0000, because they have not passed a financial bill, they will start talking about it.

But of course, this thread is the best news ticker on the subject.

Originally posted by Plan2exist18
Is this or is this not a big deal?

This is the biggest deal since 1953. And even if things calm down in the next week, IMO it ain't over till at least mid-April + South Korea/US counter actions.


More news.

China warns possible Korea clash could hurt region (Reuters)

"If a bloody clash breaks out on the peninsula, the first to suffer will be the people on both sides of the peninsula, and it would also certainly wreck regional peace and stability, harming surrounding countries."

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It's not being covered in the mainstream news??? I thought it was oO...That isn't a good sign at all then. That means they've not instigated this little incident in order to distract the American masses from their domestic problems by "boogeyman" dangers abroad...which means this is a serious matter and could very well lead to war...which will then be announced with fake surprise and shock in the States as if nobody saw it coming...

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Thank you Vitchilo and every one else who is contributing to keeping us up to date on current events.....

even if it is all bad news

Lets hope a monsoon has just started there

While this whole thing is happening...

Look at what China is doing in the area...

China fishing boat capsizes in scuffle

A Chinese fishing boat capsized in a maritime scuffle with a South Korean coast guard ship trying to curb its illegal fishing activities Saturday, killing one fisherman and leaving two others missing, a South Korean official said.

About 50 Chinese fishing boats were illegally fishing in western South Korean waters off Gunsan city, about 170 miles (270 kilometers) south of Seoul, when the South Korean ship approached them, coast guard spokesman Ji Kwan-tae said. One of the boats intentionally hit the larger coast guard ship to allow fellow Chinese vessels to sail back to their waters, and then capsized, he said.

Calls to the Chinese Embassy in Seoul went unanswered.

China is a freaking joke.

And we should rely on them for peace with North Korea? Insanity I tell ya.

#ROK defense officials denying live-fire drill on Yeonpyeong will be canceled due to diplomatic pressure following #DPRK retaliation threat. about 2 hours ago via TweetDeck

The drill is still a go.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
While this whole thing is happening...

Look at what China is doing in the area...

China fishing boat capsizes in scuffle

A Chinese fishing boat capsized in a maritime scuffle with a South Korean coast guard ship trying to curb its illegal fishing activities Saturday, killing one fisherman and leaving two others missing, a South Korean official said.

About 50 Chinese fishing boats were illegally fishing in western South Korean waters off Gunsan city, about 170 miles (270 kilometers) south of Seoul, when the South Korean ship approached them, coast guard spokesman Ji Kwan-tae said. One of the boats intentionally hit the larger coast guard ship to allow fellow Chinese vessels to sail back to their waters, and then capsized, he said.

Calls to the Chinese Embassy in Seoul went unanswered.

China is a freaking joke.

And we should rely on them for peace with North Korea?

Insanity I tell ya.

#ROK defense officials denying live-fire drill on Yeonpyeong will be canceled due to diplomatic pressure following #DPRK retaliation threat. about 2 hours ago via TweetDeck

The drill is still a go.

I don't get it what's so feaking joke about it. What does this fishing boat got anything to do with the chinese government? It's a fishing boat not a chinese military vessel.

this is from a video game

Apologies for creating the separate thread yesterday regarding North and South Korea.

I realized afterwards that I should have just updated this thread and kept relevant info together.

Just received a Twitter message from a reporter of YonHap also via KCNA

8:00pm Korean Time

In intensifying rhetoric, NKorea threatens "brutal consequences beyond imagination" if SKorea violates its "sky, soil or sea even 0.001 mm."

Also, considering Bill Richardson considered the Korean situation a literal "Tinderbox" earlier today

LINK TO ARTICLE

Then 8 hours later articles appear in the nature of "Bill richardson presenting proposals to North Korea"

LINK TO ARTICLE


Little bit late don't you think Bill?

UPDATE AS I POST VIA TWITTER

Russia expresses 'extreme concern,' urges 'maximum restraint' in effort to stop SKorea from conducting live-fire drill

STATEMENT OF RUSSIAN MINISTRY OF AFFAIRS

Russia wants a piece of the pie too.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation expresses its extreme concern over the Republic of Korea’s plans for live-firing artillery drills set to take place from Dec. 18 to 21 in the Yellow Sea near Yeonpyeong Island.