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Was NOT an Airplane (as per General)

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posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 03:43 PM
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reply to post by weedwhacker
 


Looks the same to me but no sense adding to the story with speculation (although warranted there's no need for more ammunition....)

Let's just go with what they say and that is: another helicopter (of the sister station of Monday's event) made an emergency landing when one of its engines failed today.

Is that a common occurrence? Why bother askin'...........
C'mon naysayers, let's hear you stick up for your government (and Murphy Law) again. C'mon. I am primed.


I just LOVE these coincidences.
edit on 12-11-2010 by Human_Alien because: rumor = story



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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NO! That's like asking me "why didn't Osama bin Laden" BOOST about the events of 9-11.
So you think the USA would do something 'sneaky' then sneer about it afterwards?

Are you kidding me????

These people (sub-human entities) don't think, act or react like we do so please................



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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NO! That's like asking me "why didn't Osama bin Laden" BOOST about the events of 9-11.
So you think the USA would do something 'sneaky' then sneer about it afterwards?

Are you kidding me????

These people (sub-human entities) don't think, act or react like we do so please.............


Okay, let's assume that this was the "false flag" operation that was supposed to set off WWIII. Would your sub-human entities act puzzled and/or try to cover it up, or would the headlines be screaming: "SNEAK ATTACK BY IRAN!!!" Put a little thought into this thing instead of believing what you heard on TV.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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"Reflection off of an airplane."?

I have seen plenty of reflections off of airplanes.

Every one I have ever seen is either just a quick flash of a reflection or maybe a second or two of steady reflection.

I doesn't last that length of time or flicker like a rocket motor flame.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:05 PM
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It looked to me like it was an object



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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You can not look at the world like that . If everything was an average then life would be perfect . Like the brady bunch .

Unless you know everything your meaning about this object means nothing . Some will be safe and say . It was a plane to feel better and calm and make there world stay the same with the power of there own view of how it works in the world and never look at something there minds can not possible think could take place . However they forget 60 years ago japan. Also they do not understand the meaning of . Not knowing everything . And just taking facts by people they do not know to get a solid good sounding loving brady bunch style response ..



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by A55A551N
reply to post by zorgon
 


Prove to me those photos are planes. They sure look like missiles to me.

Show me or link me to the original photos.


Better yet, show me any plane that smokes like that! Even a fighter jet with full afterburner doesn't smoke like that. Jet engines simply don't smoke like that unless they are ready to explode. Unless of course it's a show plane with the "smoke" on.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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My thoughts on this now, is that it was a test of the american public, and they failed it miserably. It was reported at first as a missle, and the government claimed they didn't know a thing, which I am sure we can all agree was a crock. It was a test to see if the people would rise up, and take to the streets, demand the truth. Or would they go on with their lives like normal, oblivious to the world. Yep failed bigtime, it really doesn't matter at this point if it was a missle, or a plane really. I am thinking that was also why those "new videos" from 9 11 was leaked as well. To see how people would react, or really even care if new evidence came to light, about around 3000 of their countrymen slaughtered. Fail fail fail.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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Planes have been known to smoke . And a lot of it .

But this was not a plane. You can clearly see the object . And it has no wings . PS. case closed



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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Those pictures are NOT smoke! Contrails. Ice. Crystals. Exactly the same as cirrus clouds.

AND...the airplane has wings. But, you are basing your "no wings" idea on a poor quality videotape, without any zoom to sufficient magnification to see the airplane that is roughly ten miles away?

It was a Boeing 757. The wingspan on the 757 is 124 feet, 10 inches.

The wings are aluminum colored....and videoed against a blue sky. Think that would result in poor color contrast??

Wings may span ~125 feet, but are quite thin in the lateral direction. By comparison.

SO....~10 miles away, and ~125 feet wide? Care to think about how HARD to see that it would be, without long telephoto lenses?

I am amazed by these comments, lately. Truly amazed....... :shk:



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
So a former general believes it was not a plane. The evidence (as discussed in other threads) says otherwise.


I have seen some of the responses from other threads and not one of them proves what they claim.

This could not have been a plane because the contrail you see is made by ONE engine, and it is obvious the engine is pretty big.

As I said on my first response, and I keep saying it, I agree with the Lieutenant General, this is a missile, and as I said imo it was launched from a sub close to our coasts most probably by China, although it could also have been Russia.

The Obama administration are a bunch of wimps hence they probably ordered the DoD not to say to the public that it was a missile, or more than one, from a Chinese sub.
edit on 12-11-2010 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:22 PM
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Don't know if anyone has posted this yet but there was a UFO observing the missile




posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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First off, I haven't heard diddly on TV. I don't watch TV.
I am reacting on what I see/saw on the Internet news. I do however scrutinize YouTube videos and that alone -----is a slippery slope!

I am reacting out of emotion. I am sorry for that but, how many more convenient-coincidence excuses can the Human being endure?

I am not sure 'why' this happened and who was responsible. I am only (almost) certain what happened (and that is, it was a missile).
Now.........we have to piece together the puzzle (as if we don't have enough 'games' to play already!)



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
My thoughts on this now, is that it was a test of the american public, and they failed it miserably.


I too lean your way!

Obama is out of the Oval office (like all POTUS's are when there's a 'strange' event) so ....I believe this was a test too.

If you think this was China and that they are our enemy.....well, news flash: There are no enemies.
Our enemies are fictitious (when in fact, our enemies are our own People!) to further the Elites agenda.

Better buckle up buckaroos and put on your adult diapers and get with the program.
NOTHING is what it seems. Nothing!!!!!



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:50 PM
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Dont become emotionally compromised by the skeptics that flock to your post, its simple logic really.

We want to believe that there is something more out there, something thats being hidden from us, so we tend to look towards the conspiracy side of events.

Skeptics believe that they are solely in control of their lives, and HATE the thought that someone else would try to pull a fast one on them for lack of a better term, so their mind immediately sets target on a claim (no matter how irrational) and uses typical media biased evidence and rational thinking to attempt to throw you off base because they simply cant handle not being in control.

We all know, that planes do not fly straight upwards, that the smoke from a misslie dissipates differently than vapor emitted from a plane, that there would be more air traffic on a monday over Las Angeles california.f

It was not a plane, and our next steps should be figuring out WHY they would launch whatever this is, and go from there, despite we will probably hit a dead end.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by woogleuk
My post copied from another thread on the subject:

Here is a screen grab of when the green light flashes, it is brighter at one point in the video, but pausing at just the right moment was difficult.....tell me, how many rockets have green navigation lights?


What in the world makes you think it is a "green navigation light"?...

This would be a missile with a multi-stage rocket which is why we see it sometimes brighter than at other times...

As for the green light, at that altitude and because of atmospheric conditions it can look to shine green.

You can even see that prior to shining in green the light intensifies, which in itself shows this is a multi-stage missile, and not a passenger plane.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:09 PM
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Oh yes. It's (the 'other' helicopter) been seen and un-addressed, kinda.

You see, when things get too out of hand and too many questions need answers..... they just lead the sheeple back to the first issue and that is: what did we see on Monday?[.i]
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Again people.........................WAKE the F up!

I really don't like being this emotionally charged but my gawd, I would think people on this site would be petitioning the Government for answers. Instead I see my peers trying to portray people like me, uninformed.

This planet is so unbelievably divided that I don't see any hope of any unification.........ever.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
Even though this was broadcasted on FOX (who are hellbent against Obama and will do everything to make his administration look bad, *rightly so in this case*) this event is just another Norway Spiral mystery during Obama's term.
To me this just CAN'T be a conventional plane. Just can't be.
Take it for what it's all worth.






Will everyone please let me know when they get it figured out. Right now I'm going to have a beer and relax. Thanks.

edit on 12-11-2010 by trailertrash because: typo



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:16 PM
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Thank you thank you thank you. You have momentarily restored my faith in humanity.

Thank you! I really thought I was fighting this non-issue, alone.

Listen people, just for the record, I hate combat. I hate opposition. I hate fighting.
And what I hate more than all of that is, being duped.

I am 50 years old.
I've seen much and I refuse to go on medication (legally or illegally) in order to deal with what I've seen/and know (like the PTB would love me to be)
This governmental bullchit has got to STOP.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:23 PM
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I want to say one more thing before I get attacked for my last post:

I am 97% certain this was a missile.
I do have 3% wiggle room.

And in the 3% wiggle room I then have to ask myself: If this was a plane, why wasn't this KNOWN from the get-go?
Then the sub-question would be: why was this allowed to make the public circuit?

So either way, there's a conspiracy. Questions are left unanswered no matter what.



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