Mysterious Missile Launch Over California - 11/8/2010

Airplanes are FINDABLE.

If it was an airplane, WHICH ONE? and WHO IS THE PILOT?

Aren't those fair questions?

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reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


Star for your post. IMO, You are obviously, 100% correct. Please dont doubt the analytical skills involved here though. There is always an ongoing battle between derailers, dis agents, genuine conscerned conspiracy theorists and those who want to learn. We just keep plugging away, why? because the majority of us are not easily led nowadays.

respects to you

Originally posted by Cosmic4life
Hmmm ok.

What about a test of an anti-satellite missile??

The first launch puts up the drone satellite target, the second is the satellite killer, hmmmm?

So far there is no record of a splashdown, so one may assume that what went up stayed up.

???

Cosmic...

I have to agree!!

This is what I've thought ever since last night....this object went up and stayed up....whatever kind of craft is was had to be capable of space travel and since NASA has reported that its not theirs.....

hmmm...

To me, that was a a vessel that came from space and has returned to space.

It is true, one cannot act without the truth.

Indeed.

I have seen the footage and it is a missile a big one. I am not sure if its from a sub or a platform, due to the size of the the projectile.





With The DOD basically saying they do not know what it is, is a lie. I can't really read the signature on this missile to determine if its American, or not. Yet when the Government is saying they don't know what it is or whose it is, should raise flags. If I had to guess I would say its not ours and someone decided to launch the missile close enough during sunset to raise attention. To simply apply intelligence to this story at what time of the day would you display something in the sky for everyone to see? Sunset.. Since they is when most people are looking at the sky. So that is more puzzling, it could in fact be a premeditated event. So then we ask the question why. The why is associated with the actions of the present and the soon to be future at this moment, it seems to be some kind of test, perhaps an analysis. The why or for what will not be the first answer that comes to mind, whoever or whatever source is doing stuff like this, is pretty smart, and very strategic. It almost resembles a savage strategic intellect. Their is no doubt in my mind, this is a military operation. The terrorizing aspect of this story, is the blurriness of the language explaining it.

Do people really think this could be an commercial jet or something similar? I don't know about everyone else, but I have never seen any passenger aircraft that bore even a passing similarity to this thing. I just doesn't fit. First you have the fact that no one is claiming responsibility for it. If it were a commercial craft we would have known in half an hour tops. Also it has a crazy trajectory for a plane. Lastly, the thing clearly has an afterburner or whatever you call the thing that shoots fire out the rear end of rockets/missiles and some military jets. I wish I knew what it was.

Perhaps time will tell... or not.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


No, I'm sorry, I was trying to say that a horizontal trail is lit from below if the sun is setting and below the horizon. If a trail was vertical it would be lit from behind if the sun was below the horizon. Does that make sense? BTW, Fox News is about to have Michio Kaku on about this whole thing.

Well if I recall correctly. In the original story the person was told it had something to do with a new ship that would replace the shuttle, which was being retired.

reply to post by Bicent76

I have seen the footage and it is a missile a big one.

Star on that!

As I have stated before, I have witnessed a Trident launch at sea, and that is what this video looked like.

Originally posted by thecinic
It could of been a mexican drug cartel that got a hold of a submarine and was looking to test a rocket. The cartells have billions of dollars and could of been buying arms dealsand this was an arms deal the helicopter guy was shooting the video for the cartels buyers and so when this all went down they are were going to act like they have no clue and the camera guy gets his scoop of the day... I am still not buying this is a plane.. This was fired under water most likly I am not believing a plane came out of nowhere with no records no flight plan and now NOTHING nada I am still not buying this plane idea. I am believing it is mexican drug cartel, a test rocket with a secret satellite payload, some type of missile testing, ANYTHING over *its a bird or a plane or the illusion*

Not a chance, did they just sail it them selfs after reading a manual?

I'm pretty sure the US would known about that and would have intercept & destroyed without a problem

IMO if this wasn't the US Navy and they genuinly don't have a clue, which i highly highly doubt then it was China and something is going on, tensions are high WWIII ? well all the big wars kicked of in the mists of a recession & hard times wouldn't supprise me if another kicked of soon, but again i doubt that aswel, right now i haven't a clue

From wikipedia : Coontz harpoon

On 14 July 1981, Coontz accidentally fired a live Harpoon missile about 60 nautical miles (110 km) off St. Croix. The island was in range of the missile and it was fired toward the island, but a search by Coontz and aircraft from USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) found no debris. The US Navy concluded that the Harpoon harmlessly impacted the sea since no trace of it was ever found.[1][2][3] A Danish frigate had a similar incident in September 1982 with no casualties, but significant property damage.

where will it falls down and with what nuclear !

Just had a totally off-the-wall discussion about this with my neighbour. His suggestion...

Did it actually take pleace where and when it did? Is there any other confirming evidence, other video, eye witnesses? and do you trust the source?


oh, guess he has some relevant points eh? My head is sore.

respects

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


Around the US there are lets call them Nice radar stations. The radar and the people that man them were and are watching them 24-7 365. If something breaks the horizon it alerts tracks identifies.

One this day when this happened. This would have been the events.

Missle breaks X" surface horizon. Thats right inches.

Alert is given that an unidentified aircraft is being tracked. If trejectory is incoming hostile this is I say alert condition X. Aircraft are scambling computer cannot IFF. This is huge. WW3 may be imminent. Red phone rings. HUGE Yes it is still red and yes it rings.
As this thing is flying we will track and plot strike time and possible strike location/targets.ID the so called UFO. If it is not ID'd or has a hostile trijectory. THIS is fact. Defcon is raised and aircraft are enroute at supersonic speed. White house notified scrammble WH staff JCOS.

If no aircraft were scrambled from said west coast bases then it was us all along.If not somone just pissed in our coffee and left the room as it is called. The missle you can see from the video is what it is a missle fired by someone. Simple as that. Now if NORAD say not us which is funny because they would never comment on this EVER. I believe someone slipped us a micky.

This is crazy, 103 pages? I was here around page 9, went out a few hours, back at around page 60, went to bed, got up page 103 and same discussion, it was a plane, no it was a missile.

I live in L.A., we see sunsets everyday if you can believe that. We watch the planes come and go from LAX everyday also, being most likely in the top 5 for busiest airports in the world. You would think we would see a plane contrail at sunset that looks like this almost daily.....hmmmm.

reply to post by Rocky Black


pretty correct their. Protocol for such an event would raise alarm. The fact that norad basically says it was unaware of it is concerning. Perhaps it was us who fired a missile up into the clouds during sunset in LA the other day, its just odd to do so, when knowing you will raise alarm, with the civilians and not to mention spend a few million dollars on the missile, and then deny it all. The little sense I can try to make outta that makes it even more complex, with the reasoning behind it. Whatever the case the only logically conclusion that comes to mind, by saying its ours is psychological. For what bloody reason would you waste millions of dollars for, to analyze psychosis?

Unless something is about to happen..

reply to post by Bicent76


Let's assumed that DOD is lying and this flight was a top secret military operation. But then, are you aware of the highly dangerous implications it will bring?

1. Missile launches do not happen everyday. Every launch and flight details must be logged in advance, more so in this nuclear armaments trigger happy days. The world is inform of such launches, tests or excercises, so as to avoid misinterpretation of intentions.

2. No advisory was sent and the military arms denied its existance.

If it was a lie, then the military or whoever that had launched that flight would have IRRESPONSIBLY place every nuclear armed nation on defcon top alert, with fingers on the button the moment that flight was launched, and would have place EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN at RISK of a simultaneous nuke launch from foriegn shores within minutes!

Or were they informed in advance? If so, the implications are more scary - what was the deal?

Whatever or whichever way it goes, that fact that a mysterious launch had happened. The American Public HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW, and no BS please, or heads will roll!

Fox News: Michio Kaku putting it to rest...?

I'm not convinced, anyone else?

Originally posted by Drew99GT
I'm with Phage. This is a contrail (or a chemtrail

) .

If this was a missile launched off the west coast, people would have seen it. How many people were likely looking westward from the coast of California watching the sunset etc? How many private boats were out around that general area? If this was a sea launched missile, we'd know it by now as witnesses would be coming forward.

I'm done wasting brain power on this until something substantial is confirmed.

Could it possibly have escaped your attention that people did see it I wonder? For starters the crew of a News helicopter who frankly are not going to risk their credibility for a 'jet trail'. The editors might, but a film crew and a helicopter pilot? Don't think so.

Your instant summary does not appear to be wasting any brain power as opposed to people who have analysed the film, looked at other possibilities and found flights in the area (which I still do not believe is the answer). No I think your brain power is definitely intact ready to be used on a more serious matter.

reply to post by dneudecker
I understand what you're saying and if the Earth was flat, it would be true, but since the Earth is curved, the trail isn't horizontal, it follows the curvature of the Earth so the contrail of a plane at constant altitude is actually curved.

As Defcon5 pointed out, if it was a missile we'd expect it to get brighter as it goes higher.

Do you think Michio Kaku is actually Phage? Because he said the same thing as Phage about it being a plane and even mentioned the same flight from Hawaii to Phoenix.

Originally posted by SacrificeCertainty
Fox News: Michio Kaku putting it to rest...?

I'm not convinced, anyone else?

Kaku is coo coo for cocoa puffs. Dude has lost it...

2nd

reply to post by SacrificeCertainty


Just saw him on some channel, I like how last night he was convinced it was a missile, but now he thinks its a plane. And down the rabbit hole we go.