The Forbidden Fruit, Origional sin was SEX

This is my very first post so please don't be too tough on me. But I wanted to start out with a big bang so to speak.

In the Bible we hear the phrase the fruit of thy womb. Catholics recite the Hail Mary where it states blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. The Bible is full of parables. The one thing that God warned Adam and Eve not to do was take from the fruit of the tree of life. What if God was speaking of Eve's womb when referring to the fruit and not to take from it? Or in other words warning them to not have intercourse?

Ok but what about this tree of life you ask? How is life created even today? A man and a woman must have intercourse. SEX. Without it there can be no tree, no family tree. No tree of life.

In the BIBLE and I wont quote scripture I will let others step in and do so then debunk it as best I can, It states that afterwards they were naked and seen their nakedness and we're ashamed. Why would eating a apple, fruit or to be politically correct a pomegranate cause Adam and Eve to see their nakedness and be ashamed? It wouldn't. Why would it cause them to cover themselves with fig leaves? It wouldn't.

But having sex and then feeling guilt and shame would.

What was the curse? On all woman it was to have menstruation as a reminder of the sin and go through birth pains and bare children. All leading to sex.

We have no difficulty seeing past the parable that the serpent is the devil, satin. And that it was he who convince Eve to do the deed.

Parables my friends. Why would God throw them out of the garden for simply eating fruit? God's original intent was NOT to multiply, He gave this world to the two of them and warned them to enjoy life forever.

They we're deceived by the fallen angel Lucifer and their punishment was eventually death. New testament, when we are saved we are said to be born again and given ever lasting life and the original sin forgiven.

I think the parables are one thing that has confused so many along with the fact that in the old day's people just didn't talk a lot about sex. So the eating of a piece of fruit has been taught throughout the ages.

Read past and understand the parables and the bible comes to a much clearer understanding.

reply to post by faithkeeper


Do you even own a bible? First of all, God forbade them from eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, not the tree of life. They were ashamed because they had gained the knowledge of good and evil.

Second, God created woman for Adam to mate with. The first woman wasn't Eve, it was Lilith. She was cast out of Eden because she wouldn't give Adam the dominant position during intercourse. Adam asked God to create a new woman and that's when he created Eve out of Adam's rib. God had no problem with their intercourse, he was angry that they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil when he specifically told them not to.

Wow awesome theory. It makes alot of sense. S&F for you.

Bible states that they ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil not the Tree of Life. Two trees are described in Chapter 2 verse 9. In Chapter 3 verse 22, God removes Adam and Eve from Eden before they eat from the Tree of Life and live forever.

I would say NO!
But I don't wanna be rude, so Ill just go with, uhhhh I dont think so

Originally posted by Nosred
[The first woman wasn't Eve, it was Lilith. She was cast out of Eden because she wouldn't give Adam the dominant position during intercourse.

Where'd you get this from?

reply to post by Soldier of God


I think thats from some of the Apocrypha. Not sure where exactly

I'm sure every Bible has there different and own rendition, What they are I don't know and nor do I care. I have a feeling this is going to turn out to be a trolling thread. Just looking for a fight.

It was indeed the tree of knowledge. My mistake but then why would GOD not want them to gain knowledge of right from wrong? Until they had been decieved by the serpent they had no clue they were even naked. Again the bible is full of parables and just watch this clip and see how rediculas the whole actual account of eating fruit is.

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The womb is refered to as fruit in the contents of the Bible. Just have an open mind, not one controlled and clouded by churches and doctrins and mis interpetations of the parables by preachers all these years.

reply to post by Soldier of God


en.wikipedia.org...
She's a big part of Jewish mythology and has been around forever. No more innaccurate than the rest of the bible.

reply to post by faithkeeper


Knowledge of Good and Evil includes being able to sin. Before this Adam and Eve were without sin and could do whatever they wanted except eat from that one tree.

The parables were stories that Jesus told to get a message across and have nothing to do with the Old Testament, especially not Adam and Eve.

Originally posted by Nosred
reply to post by Soldier of God

 

en.wikipedia.org...
She's a big part of Jewish mythology and has been around forever. No more innaccurate than the rest of the bible.

Actually she was a demon from another unrelated text.
www.bib-arch.org...

reply to post by Soldier of God


The entire Adam and Eve story, scratch that, all of Genesis was stolen from earlier religious texts. She's just as valid as the rest of them.

I was unaware of any women prior to Eve. I am a Christian and have never heard this nor was I taught this. Not even from my Grand Mother when she was alive.

I do own a bible and just got a new one as a matter of fact.

The Bible at best is is extreamly hard to understand and has been intrepeted in so many conflicting ways.

This I hope will not turn into a troll fest and be discussed with an open mind.

I believe there is much more to the pages of the bible then we understand and this is one of them. The curse, Death, all from eating a fruit? Or from something GOD did not desire? A world full of people destroying his creation. Earth. How many times did God become angry with Man?

reply to post by faithkeeper


They were cursed with death because God no longer allowed them to eat from the tree of life.

By the way the whole Lilith thing is very common in Judaism. I think she might be in Enoch too.

To better understand my reasoning for believing the origional sin to be sex is, How many people lived before Eve ate of the forbidden fruit? How many children did Adam and Eve have prior to the incident in the garden?

What happens after the episode in the garden?

Just fruit for thought friends.

reply to post by faithkeeper


Before Eve lived there were two people. After they were cast out of Eden Adam and Eve had two children; Cain and Able. What does this have to do with anything?

In the Sumerian history it tells of the Male Adamma rutting with the animals of the forest.. and provides us with line drawings of such acts... before the Female Adamma was manufactured from DNA in Bone Marrow taken out of a rib.

The Anunnaki considered sex with animals to be an Abomination... the Worst Sin.

Once fully functioning female-Adamma were manufactured and matured, they were taught the Acts of Love and sent out to teach the Male Adamma in order to stop the Bestiality. And once man had the smell of women on him the animals would not allow the man near them again.

Hence, Original Sin is Bestiality.

I've thought of that to.
But just now, something in your post led me to another thought, and now I'm really creeped out!!!

If they ATE from the 'tree of life' (family tree, fruit of the womb) umm... cannibalism?!? Like, eating the newborn.
To make matters worse, as soon as I (regrettably) thought of this, I then thought of that saying I've heard many time referring to a child being "the apple of her eye" --which frankly I never understood, because who the heck has apples in their eyes? I've always known it meant a sort of adoration that an adult relative feels for a child, but now I do wonder how/why that phrase came into being!

Then when you factor in God telling Abraham to sacrifice... Isaac, I think? (until a lamb showed up and was slaughtered instead, of course.) Even so, Abraham, dutiful servant, sadly trekked up the mountain to find that altar to slaughter his child. Sadly... resigned to it... not freaking out like "You've got to be kidding, God!!! Kill my child on an altar?! (If I'm not mistaken, food offered to God on an altar was subsequently eaten by his followers in a feast. So thank God for the poor lil lamb wandering along, huh?) Also, the whole 'drink my blood' and 'eat my flesh' ritual of communion where the congregation partakes of the body of Christ (the fruit of Mary's womb-- that's the words in your OP that spawned this whole thought-train!)

So back to this gross-I-hope-I'm-way-wrong line of thought... did God tell Adam and Eve to eat of all the plants, fruits, blah blah blah except that from the Tree of Life. Let's face it, he did tell them to be fruitful and multiply. Can't exactly multiply if you're devouring your offspring. (Later in the days of Abraham, the population having multiplied, God may have relented on his mandate of 'no cannibalism.' Or the fact that A & E were cast out of the Garden of Eden might indicate God wrote them off and left them to their cannibalistic instincts.)

Disclaimer: I am in no way proud of this post!!! Icky-poo!

reply to post by new_here


God allowed them to eat from the tree of life. The tree of life was what prevented their death. They were only forbidden to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Bibles people.