ANOTHER POSSIBLE way of deciphering the message from Cassini/Saturn 2004?

Ok,

I have JUST found this thread and, of course, did not look at all of the posts, but some.

I did not looked at it trying to see something (like faces, objects, symbols, etc).

But the "symmetry" that really caught my eye was this:



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If you calculate, you'll find that there are almost exactly 40 of these "streaks" every second. They are evenly separated and I don't know what it means... I beg to forgiveness if this is already noted and explained, but I just don't have the time right to look at all the posts, and wanted to upload this before I forget.

Could it be something the software did?
Is it in the original audio?
What does it mean?
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Hi

Great thread. Like the out of the box thinking on how to view the message/signal.

Could you do me a favour as you have the skills and experience could you do the same as above to the Seti WOW signal if you have not already. I dont expect much but you never know.

Will keep reading one of with interest either way.

Anyone else seeing Skeletor from Master of the Universe?

I have an idea; Since the image is symmetrical, you could chop it in half vertically thus getting only one side. Convert this back into sound and see what you get. My reasoning behind this is, the image is symmetrical therefore you will always have two frequencies playing at once and cancelling each other out, if you get rid of the cancelling frequency maybe we could hear something new.
I would try this with both the left and right side of the image and also try it inverted. If its an alien message maybe they included both sides because they weren't sure how we would process the sound so included every eventuality.
I don't have a spectrometer but i do have plenty of audio software, if someone is able to direct me to spectrometer software i'd be happy to try this out and post my findings.
Peace
WCS.

now this reminds me of these pictures..

this topic is soo cool i love everyones view on the OP. great stuff.

but still not sure why he posted more info on davids site then here? same person?
www.davidicke.com...

Interesting... I don't know how well the alien signal hypothesis holds up, but it might fit well into some ideas.

1.) When coming from space to another planet, don't make contact too easy for the more primitive society. They have to be able to solve some problems on their own, such that they understand the problems (both technical and ethical) associated with the uses of such technology. You don't want it to be an all too easy give-away. Putting a Bracewell probe out where finding it and its information will be challenging and require space travel would be the easiest way to do this. In the case regarding us as the primitives, that would be the asteroid belt and the outer planets. If it's there, it will be the proverbial "needle in a haystack".

2.) Communicate on more than one level once they can get at your message. If you've been observing the more primitive society from space, you might know a thing or two about how they interpret signals and information. Apply some stenographic style tricks to it and you provide audio, a picture, and digital information all in the same packets and waveforms. (So the audio message in English, face, and stuff that looks like binary data overlaid on a timing signal may be equally valid.) It's going to be a rich puzzle to unravel, provided that the information is recognized as being there.

3.) Offer some hint regarding the path to further communication. The one interpretation of the sound it makes (if it really is a message), seems to sound threatening. I don't take it as a dire warning, if aliens are here and wanted us gone - it would be way too easy at this point. Instead it sounds much more like rather stern advice from somebody much more mature. Basically the gist being: "If you kids want to eat at the table with the adults, you'll need to learn how to behave first." So if it really is a message they wanted us to find, they'll still let us hear it while implying that they want us to get our act together. (That nature also implies that they're actively watching right now - which makes things more interesting. There may be some rather advanced AI, FTL communication/travel, or some nearby outpost involved in such communication.)

Very Startling Find OP , i will S&F.

Originally posted by Whateva69
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Amazing on all of these images on yours and everyone else's... I see Tibetan Art work... try it for yourself...search Tibetan art work or Tibetan wall hangings.

I think this is the work of Buddha

I was thought i am the only one who thinking about Buddha and Buddist Monk in here! But buddha is thus long gone, no more re-born, cannot be his work but his Extraterrastrial Deciples may be .



Here is what i Dechiper:


A male Buddist monk type humanoid in Lotus Sitting Position??

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Looks like this monk's position : www.canstockphoto.com...

A Female Humanoid (Alien Looking) , With elongated ears , in Standing Lotus-Hand position:

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Looks like This : s3.hubimg.com...

A Little Girl, with round face and can actually see the eyes , Zoom carefully.

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You guys gave me some things to think about. Will be back in a few hours...

I will search for the WOW SETI signal and run it through and will let you know if there's anything interesting.

I've run some of the Jupiter signals caught by Cassini, nothing there.

Loving the theory regarding the cancellation theory, however, these would not cancel each other - frequencies from both left and right side of the symmetry are completely different from each other, meaning they are in different regions of the spectrum. Although nice thinking, and I will try and follow up on that path...

Hi all, this is my first ever post (been reading this website for months, but this thread made me want to join!). Anyways, I immediately saw an image... of course this kinda of thing is open to inturperation and every individual will see different things...

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Hopefully I've uploaded the correct image as ImageShack has been a little slow. I've just outlined what I saw

reply to post by ch1n1t0 This is freaking amazing, is that a monk praying? Wonder what its all about.... Thankyou for a great post!

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Originally posted by WorstCaseScenario
I have an idea; Since the image is symmetrical, you could chop it in half vertically thus getting only one side. Convert this back into sound and see what you get. My reasoning behind this is, the image is symmetrical therefore you will always have two frequencies playing at once and cancelling each other out, if you get rid of the cancelling frequency maybe we could hear something new.
I would try this with both the left and right side of the image and also try it inverted. If its an alien message maybe they included both sides because they weren't sure how we would process the sound so included every eventuality.
I don't have a spectrometer but i do have plenty of audio software, if someone is able to direct me to spectrometer software i'd be happy to try this out and post my findings.
Peace
WCS.

In essence, exactly what I had said back on page 6... Then again, someone may have suggested it sooner, as I only read the first and a little of the second page.

I think if it's that close of a reflection, and both 'halves' were added together, any differences in the audio could potentially be the message.

I'd think of the louder sounds as somewhat of a carrier sound, in this case.

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If you have any kind of DAW (Digital audio workstation; Cubase, Fruityloops, Pro Tools), you can do a simple google search, and find a crazy amount of free Spectrum Analyzer/Spectrometer VST plugins (Google Search)

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Check Spectrogram Version 16, it's pretty good!

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I will say what I said back few pages ago - I, myself prefer to first find if there's a message in there in the first place. ukbloke gave a pretty good idea what could be causing the symmetry, however, we still have no reply from anyone with the knowledge (and I couldn't find any relevant enough info to this specific case) if a certain radio wave frequency is reflected, how will it look like. Will it spawn a twin somewhere higher in the freq spectrum as it does in our case?

Until I get that possibility excluded, I will not post any of my thoughts and theories regarding the message. I can only say I see things shouting "MESSAGE", also I have had some really startling input from people regarding the images. All I can say that I managed to see every single one of the previously mentioned by other members shapes in the image, before they were mentioned... And I think I saw some myself that weren't mentioned yet.

But don't get me wrong, I appreciate that so many people give such amazing out of the box ideas, that I don't know if I'll manage to catch up after radio wave reflection is excluded lol.

As for the same topic appearing in other forums, seems the word has spread out. I haven't posted anywhere else besides ATS and can assure you - it will remain that way. Those are other people spreading the info, I personally don't mind, although until we haven't reached a conclusion and since investigation is ongoing, I hope the people in the other forums will keep themselves up-to-date with the thread here, so no misunderstandings would happen.

hello all... just a thought? parts of this image seem like they could overlap each other like transparent images. like at the top you see the inside parts of the face then right below it the out side areas. Kind of like those myan images. overlap the sections of the sound???some one try that please

i see satan with horns and his own crown he had made for himself....plain as day, baby
which just happens to fit with the aliens are the fallen angels in their rebellion

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This thread has exploded with exitement but sorry mate, i still think you got a false image there.

You must be running some sort of post effects on FL studio, are you sure FL is not compressing the output or something? Iv read through the post a few times to see if you said you have tried this in any other spectrogram software?? couldnt find any.

I have downloaded the original file from here... cassini.physics.uiowa.edu... (please note nasa's spectrogram on that webpage, above the download link)

i have used spec-0.6 and gram50 to graph the original file, and NO symetry, i get the same as the nasa image.

i have also pitched up 500% and other occasion sped up 500%... still no symetry.

please post results using software other than FL studio, with using the original file untouched by FL studio.

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