ANOTHER POSSIBLE way of deciphering the message from Cassini/Saturn 2004?

What I'm sharing now was just discovered by me, due to reading this other thread here that everyone felt so important to discuss what language the alien was speaking when there was NO SPEECH AT ALL! I didn't know any details regarding the Cassini receiving a strange signal, only recall something vague. And now, after stumbling on this thread, I did my own research and that's what I found out...

OK, because not many of you are aware of how sound can be imaged, there's a thing called spectrography which uses spectrograms to represent certain characteristics of a sound in a visual way. A spectrogram works by taking the audio signal and showing which frequencies are actually 'creating' the soundm as it plays in realtime. I will explain this really plain and simple - most of you know that what an EQ (equalizer) is and what it exactly does. Everyone has in their home stereo system, on their soundcard software, in their car-radio. Also, everyone is aware that the EQ is split into three main regions - low, mid, and treble. So, taking this knowledge of yours, and putting it into the explanation what a spectrogram is it goes like this - the spectrogram shows how as sound changes in time it changes its different frequency characteristics.

The video I'm currently uploading to youtube is showing two very simple procedures of taking the original soundfile as the scientists published it on the web.

VIDEO:




This is the sound ran through another software spectrogram:
(original export from software) img227.imageshack.us...



Note that the original image, is so much stretched, because the spectrogram software is much more detailed in the time-line aspect. Thus the elongated picture. To bring it to right view, I upload the one that has been stretched correctly so all the forms are outlined clear enough.

So, back on the startling thing - do you notice the symmetry that appears very clearly? Well, I have to say with all my years of experience in this field, I have never seen anything close to this that could be done naturally. Only way I can think of and I've seen was converting image to sound. Aphex Twin did it with a song of his, and whoever plays this song and runs it through a spectrogram, he will se the image he converted into sounds. These images are basically the representation of frequencies in time.

And now to explain the steps I took in the video -

1) Downloaded the original audio file
2) Loaded it into my audio software
3) Fed the audio signal into a spectrogram (check wikipedia for more info)
4) Pitched the original source up (which resulted in spreading the frequencies that were originally squeezed by the scientist trying to bring this to the audible spectrum of human hearing). Nothing more, nothing less.
5) Fed again the signal through a spectrogram and voila - SYMMETRY!

What does show? No idea.

There's something wrong in this signal? Yes.

Your thourghts?

What The Hell is this one?


It Is a joke?


Edit: Yes it's a joke!

reply to post by Arken


That's when you run the particular song done by the computer musician Aphex Twin through a spectrogram. It basically creates the sound based on the image, going the exact same process with the spectrogram, but in reverse. Meaning that he first took the image, then just told his software, to convert it into sound. And now, whoever plays this song and runs it through a spectogram, it actually shows this image. Cool, huh? Actually, you yourself can do it, all you gotta do is google it. Probably "convert image into sound" will do the job!

I've put this video up only to show people what exactly I mean by the fact that there is symmetry appearing in the spectrogram when you run the Cassini signal correctly through it. And this is something out of the ordinary, meaning that it simply can't be produced randomly. And I know this cause I have experience in the field (I'm starting to feel like a show off lol). If you believe this is possible to be coincidence, then you could easily search for other spectograph images of music for example, or you could make the experiment yourself with any sound or song you choose. There are plenty of spectrogram software analyzers out there that are shareware. When you run a normal signal through the spectrogram, you will yourself see the very essence of the anomaly...

Cheers!

That is so eerie...

Just wondering, has anyone tried such method with images of crop circles?

No doubt I can make out some sort of alien figure in the Cassini spectrogram, but it could just be a confirmation-bias. Have you run other [similar] sounds through the spectrograph to see if the same ambiguities show up?

This finding is very spectacular... humanoid shapes in that image, and the bottom one has a medallion or crest on his/her chest... incredible .....


This at least deserves much further study..... great work

reply to post by ohmajojo


I will try and find some interesting diagrams, and will search for software that creates sound from images. I don't think much will come out though, but it's an interesting try, the very least.

Originally posted by Arken
What The Hell is this one?

It Is a joke?

Edit: Yes it's a joke!

edit on 27-10-2010 by Arken because: (no reason given)

What do you get if you invert the image?

reply to post by Reddupo


I also thought about this, will try it with similar signals to see where I can get.

Please, bear in mind that the foundation of this thread is in the fact that there is clearly symmetry in the spectrogram image, something that is not usual at all. I, for myself at least know that it's unnecessary to speculate over what the message is, until we've cleared the fact if we have a message present, in the first place.

I will research if this symmetry could be observed in any other radio signals such as this. Based on my experience, I would say "No" in advance, but we'll see. And yet, if this symmetry is something usual to appear as an image from signals coming from celestial bodies, why doesn't anyone speak about it?

reply to post by DutchBigBoy


Which image? The one converted from the Cassini signal or the one from Aphex Twin's song? Nevermind, I will make an invert of the Cassini image and will up it in a bit.


EDIT: CLICK FOR IMAGE: img841.imageshack.us...

I have to admit, that even with the skeptic in me being ready for action to the fullest, this is disturbing.


EDIT 2: look at the image without zooming in to its original size, but look at it as a whole...

reply to post by ch1n1t0


I was gonna suggest the same thing after reading your post.

Very interesting indeed that there is symmetry.

I agree that the spectogram is absolutely proof of inteligent origin. I have gone through the original "sound and language" thread, and the OP here I think is absolutely correct in doing a spectographic analysis. You can analyze it more indepth.

I must admit, I do not see anything specific in the sepctogram, other than very unusual and not exactly perfect symetry. It does suggest inteligent origin.

Now back to Casini and speculation of the origins of the signal, I can imagine, that if it picked up radio signals it could be our own. I mean, we have been sending radio cristals for a while, and just maybe they got reflected and picked up as coming from the Saturn area. Now, I am not saying it is the case, but could be, and it is really worth considering.

Thanks, OP for doing the analysis.

reply to post by ayreonaut


Your idea is really to be considered, imo. But wouldn't we be receiving such strange signals from other planets as well, making this something not so extraordinary? Yet, the rings around Saturn might make a difference when considering the theory... I'm all fine with sound and frequencies, on these ideas I'll wait for someone with more knowledge than me in the field. And even if the rings of Saturn make a difference, wouldn't there be at least another such signal, or there is one and I'm not aware of it?

Thanks for the ideas!

reply to post by ch1n1t0


The Equation — Spectrogram emits a sound I've always liken HAARP to use. It's very unpleasant to say the least.

Although I have no idea what you're doing, I do understand the basic principle.

And this was already asked but, was this ever done (or can it even BE done) with crop circles?
I know they've done this Diatonic Ratios in Crop Circles which is totally over my head but never-the-less, extremely interesting.


Language is not universal so I can never see that being used. But math and music, are! Once we figure out how to apply the two (in a scientific manner) then, I think all the secrets will be revealed.

Originally posted by ch1n1t0
reply to post by DutchBigBoy

 

Which image? The one converted from the Cassini signal or the one from Aphex Twin's song? Nevermind, I will make an invert of the Cassini image and will up it in a bit.


EDIT: CLICK FOR IMAGE: img841.imageshack.us...

I have to admit, that even with the skeptic in me being ready for action to the fullest, this is disturbing.

edit on 27-10-2010 by ch1n1t0 because: add photo

Ok, On the zoomout of this inverted jpg, I can clearly see two figures. a monk (or at least someone dressed as one, and a lady in bikini) It is actually funny. But in all honesty, I doubts there is actual significance to it.

When looking at the inverted picture with full zoomout, notice the following:

see the triangle shape in the second half of the spectrogram?

do you see that there is an INVERTED triangle in the first half of the spectrogram??

if you imagine a spltting horizontal line in the middle (vertically) of the image, if you try and compare different details you will actually notice that the first half is close representation of the second half, although inverted. there are some discrepancies when comparing the two halves, but they're small ones. my idea is that the second part of the image is quite close to being the same as the first, but inverted in color? zero one anyone?

just my two pence

Quite eerie indeed OP!!!
You know what would be nucking futs? Doing the reversal process with the "shroud of turin"!

That spectrogram image you posted reminded me of the shroud, though seemingly an angellic figure.

S+F'd!

I don't know what to think about this anymore. For one things, it sure is getting pretty disturbing...



This is the same image, only vertically flipped...

Also couldn't help the thought that the image itself consists of many various images that one could look into and see different things. It's the time to remind you that I'm a skeptic and am hardly convinced by such things. However, you have to take in account one thing - if you tried and understood the process of editing the original sound file, you will know that actually there's absolutely no manipulation or whatsoever in the content of the audio file. What you can imagine this is only stretching the spectrogram image of the original signal, so what we see here is exactly what was there in the first place.

Too many shapes really come distinguishable clearly, and if one goes ahead and tries to look into some of the shapes visible, you will know that there's not a slight chance this image was generated in random. If you want, you could go ahead and do a comparison between different zooms on some of the images provided and some random generated such. Of course, don't forget that symmetry in the first place is impossible to be created in a spectogram if not being artificially synthesized. What we see is something complex, for sure...

I don't know what's going on, at this moment I would like to believe that this is a prank pulled off by the scientists who edited the signal (if there was a signal in the first place). Why, I don't know, I just feel more secure thinking this would be the explanation...

It's also a nice thing to recall what fractals are basically, when thinking about this image..

I don't claim these signals to be of ET origin, they could very well be of something we still don't understand. For example, if these are indeed radio signals emmited by Saturn's rings, then they def show something we yet don't understand, having those symmetric images coming out of this signal...

Still looking forward to theories that might explain this anomaly, that I suppose was never seen before (at least, no such being emitted by nature and not artificially)?

EDIT - I did more research that I should have done already, now I see that Saturn is emitting radio signals all the time. Will seek for more samples, and if there's difference in comparison to the ones from 2004 that are thought to be different than usual, then we have proof that this was an artificial signal that reached Cassini. I will upload images from similar spectrograms soon.