COICA law - say goodbye to internet freedom

Originally posted by Stillalive
In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week, and there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this Thursday.

If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of the media companies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China and Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor will be completely removed from the internet and not just in the US.

Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more information.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

well guys its not my problem, im not an us citizen,so the ball is in your corner

We are killing ourselves and our own politicians can't even see it. This law will only apply to Americans, so the rest of the world will be able to see and do essentially what they want online. While us americans will be curtailed from the internet in order for big companies and other institutions to have a "captive" audience for their products and their services. The US will be one big third world country real soon, some say we already are.

100% NO doubt Obama's probably gonna sign the bill.
I mean after what happened in March with health care it's quite obvious.
It's quite clear that the government has been taken over by imbeciles that use the Bill of Rights as tissue paper and use the Constitution as a paper airplane.

Luckily, even if this passes things won't change much. People will always find ways around this issue and develop more sophisticated technologies to do so.

It's despicable what these Senators are trying to pull, but with all the canned responses I'm getting, I don't think writing them and calling them is going to make much of a difference. If only there was a way to make more of an impact on this issue, short of something illegal.

reply to post by hoghead cheese

This law will only apply to Americans

you're mistaking very much blacklists shall affected & infected many countries as well

What I'm trying to understand is this...if the site is pulled from the internet, won't that affect everyone? Or will they block in the US? From what I read, it seems as thought they can take the site off the internet. If, for instance, the servers are based in the US...then, it doesn't matter where in the world you are...you will not have access to sites based in USA as they will no longer be available. This affects everyone...and you can bet your ass, once the US does it, it's only a matter of time before many other countries follow suit. The US is very, very, very influential.

Know this!

I think this is a good thing. Intellectual property rights should be enforced. Don't like the consequences of breaking the law? Don't do the act. People that want their intellecual property shared will still be free to do so.

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical

I think this is a good thing. Intellectual property rights should be enforced.

at first time, that just will enforce corps & propaganda's raties; at second stage, that... hmmm.. no matter

reply to post by sdrawkcabII


You are right, if it's hosted in the US, then the hosting company is obliged to shut it down. But, that's already the case under current law. What the bill proposes is breaking the Global DNS system, which is currently under the control of a US backed organization.

This will affect Domain names, but not IPs, unless it's hosted on US servers.

--Z

God's honest truth, I'm moving to Canada, I won't stand for censored internet.

Oh here we go, the US government are on their high horses.

The internet is the last thing left on this damn planet that is truly free, where we can share ideas and possessions, and learn and take what we need. We have to pay for the water out of the ground for crying out loud, the governments take every damn thing they want and use it to control people. The rich get richer, the powerful get more powerful, and all the little sheeple just tag along, doing what they are told. I live in the UK, but honestly I feel sorry for all you guys in the US. The government has no right to do this, but whose gonna stop them? They already own the water, the land, and the people, and now they think they should own the internet too. I really hope Anonymous teach them a lesson before the internet gets wiped out.

I will reiterate my last comment. The department of treasury controls the GLOBAL DNS SERVERS. these servers are what ALL DNS servers the world over get there updates for IP to name resolution. It doesnt matter if you have your own dns server, it doesnt matter if you run a proxy, it doesnt matter if you live in a different country. ALL DNS goes through the U.S. Global DNS servers. IF they decide to shut down a website, they erase it from global DNS, or redirect it. that will eventually populate across the world to all dns servers, and within 1 week, that site will be down. Right now this is dealing with copyright infringement. which technically speaking is a good thing. the concern is civil rights violations, but realistically, most people give up there privacy when there on the internet anyway. Just to reiterate. It doesnt matter where you move, if this goes throough, it wont matter. This is ment to kill copyright infringment. just my 2 cents.

Camain

reply to post by Stillalive


Kinda makes no sense that you said that its our problem not yours since you're not a US citizen when you said that the sites that they censor will be completely removed from the internet not just in the US.

This CIOCA law proposal will never be enacted; it's a violation of a fundamental right, not to mention violates the freedom of speech and the press.

Read Electronic Freedom Foundation site for more information:

www.eff.org...

even if they do this.
it will not stop any one.
just look at the battle in china.
the hackers will always find a way.

they dont need it any way.
just slowly train the sheep.
and they will take ANY thing.
just look at the world now and in the 60's

reply to post by Stillalive


I WILL THROW MY LAB TOP OUT THE WINDOW!

Originally posted by camain
I will reiterate my last comment. The department of treasury controls the GLOBAL DNS SERVERS. these servers are what ALL DNS servers the world over get there updates for IP to name resolution. It doesnt matter if you have your own dns server, it doesnt matter if you run a proxy, it doesnt matter if you live in a different country. ALL DNS goes through the U.S. Global DNS servers. IF they decide to shut down a website, they erase it from global DNS, or redirect it. that will eventually populate across the world to all dns servers, and within 1 week, that site will be down. Right now this is dealing with copyright infringement. which technically speaking is a good thing. the concern is civil rights violations, but realistically, most people give up there privacy when there on the internet anyway. Just to reiterate. It doesnt matter where you move, if this goes throough, it wont matter. This is ment to kill copyright infringment. just my 2 cents.
Camain

Ok, you obviously didn't read my post. By rerouting the hosts file on your local system, you can have any domain route to any location you want as long as the receiving server is listening for the connection. The reason this works is because your system checks the hosts file before completing a real time dns lookup.

Want to test this? Find your hosts file, edit with a text editor add the line:
127.0.0.1 abovetopsecret.com
127.0.0.1 www.abovetopsecret.com
Then reboot, close and open your browser.

Although I detest Wikipedia Link to Hosts file locations

In addition, the USA only controls the .com, .net, .us and .org name space. So the .ca domains that go through the CANADIAN root servers wont be affected. The Mexican Root servers... same deal...etc etc. I really hate misinformed statements that assume the air of an authority. This will do nothing to kill copyright infringement, this will do nothing to stop child porn. This is about censorship and control of the masses, who if they listened to you, would be sadly misinformed.

..Ex

If this happens, then web hosting companies will simply relocate outside of the United States, beyond the control of US law.

The media and telecom giants have spend billions lobbying congress to get this law passed, there is no doubt that all the beaks have been thoroughly greased and this law will pass with little and probably no resistance...

I've seen this coming for a long time, too much "dangerous info" gets spread on the info and the TPTB have found a way to stop it. Pass a law in the guise of protecting copyrights so you can remove any site from the internet, it's not like webmasters can appeal their site being added to the blacklist... Once yer on the blacklist, yer done for life.......

reply to post by 1Starman


uhmmm....getting a satellite net wont help at all (unless yer a SATCOM hacker who can bypass 128 encrypt + what ever gates they install to particular websites..). Ive owned 2 of them and it still doesnt effect what "the Net"does or doesnt do.Regardless all communication is via Sat except for hardlines. I guess a person could find a way to route-map that and do something but gotta be a L33t Haxor dont yeh think??

reply to post by camain


A copyrite applies upon creation, and is owned by it's creator, so therefore the military documents that wikileaks released would have been confiscated and blocked, if this bill were already in place, Americans would not have access to these documents, and I'm sure they would also be covered by international copyrite laws, so actually, they could/would have prevented anyone from sharing under threat of lawsuit. It would be shared underground of I'm sure, but still, I bet they are kicking their asses for not already having this in place.