Undebunkable 9\11 video.

reply to post by dJbdJb


I'm not so sure that I'm sold on the idea that the flights alleged to have crashed, weren't the ones that indeed crashed. It would seem that such a plan would be far more complicated than what would be needed. However, I concede to the idea that we simply don't know until a real investigation is done.

With that being said, if those weren't the airplanes that crashed, then the people onboard the original aircraft could have been put to death or even thrown in one of the many secret CIA prisons across the globe, though I would think that disposing of them would be much more plausible. I wouldn't even rule out that they could have been sent to various laboratories for medical and/or torture experiments, similar to what the Nazis were doing with a portion of their "captives". After all, some of these tyrants who have hijacked our country, seem to be taking ideas from the Nazi playbook and they do seem to lack any kind of empathy.


--airspoon

Well, what has me wondering is this:

This year a high rise in another Country was on fire pretty bad and it wasn't near as large as the Towers but it did not collapse. I would think our buildings are built a little better but yet three of ours collapsed and one wasn't even hit....doesn't make seense to me.

Something doesn't feel right about all this.

New Video
Judge Napolitano's Ground-breaking interview with Lt. Col, Anthony Shaffer and Former CIA Intelligence officer, Michael Scheuer.
They both say 911 comission report is a white-wash, and the members were covering for someone!!



Pentagon bought all the copies of Anthony Shaffer's new book.
Pentagon Paid $47,000 to Destroy Veteran's Memoir
www.foxnews.com...

Hey folks I have an idea

Let's all collectively ignore the so-called debunkers of the truth movement and just focus on the truth

Stop responding to their empty points and constant personal attacks

Just focus on what will set us free and that is the truth

We don't even have to put any of them on ignore status and I bet that

given time

They will go away and stop their personal attacks because no one is feeding them

"He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason."

-Marcus Tullius Cicero

Originally posted by Aristophrenia
How is it even conceivable in anyone's mind that the allocated $14 million to the 911 enquiry is not a clear, unquestionable attempt at limiting their resources is simply beyond imagination - it stinks of bias and a complete inability to see that greater powers were at work here to LIMIT THE INVESTIGATION

Correct - vipertech cannot wave away this obvious red flag, with the chair and vice-chair of the Commission eventually admitting they were underfunded and not supposed to be conducting a genuine investigation:

Hamilton:

We thought we were set up to fail. We got started late. We had a very short time-frame. Indeed, we had to get it extended. We did not have enough money. They were afraid we were gonna hang somebody; that we would point the finger.

Kean:

We think the commission in many ways was set up to fail, because we had not enough money. We didn't have enough time. We'd been appointed by the most partisan people in Washington...

Of course the commissioners were appointed precisely because they could be relied upon not to point fingers at anything that might smack of government malfeasance. As stated in the Preface: "Our aim has not been to assign individual blame."

reply to post by Namaste1001

You are correct. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the leader of the 9/11 truth movement. Thanks for sharing that video. Now I am 100% certain that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is running the 9/11 truth movement... See the first few moments of that video.

I stopped watching because the guy's voice was really annoying me.

And the style! It's like it's aimed at six year olds. As far as I got there was nothing "undebunkable" because there was nothing said.

reply to post by TrickoftheShade


Nothing said? You need to watch again. Take the cotton wool out of your ears this time.

Originally posted by airspoon
reply to post by dJbdJb

 

...I wouldn't even rule out that they could have been sent to various laboratories for medical and/or torture experiments, similar to what the Nazis were doing with a portion of their "captives". After all, some of these tyrants who have hijacked our country, seem to be taking ideas from the Nazi playbook and they do seem to lack any kind of empathy.
--airspoon

Airspoon, our country HAS been hijacked by Nazis. It sounds outrageous, but it's true. PROJECT/OPERATION PAPERCLIP brought Germany's top SS/Nazi scientists over here at the end of WWII. We put them to work for America's R&D programs, the most classified stuff in the world. And then, some of them rose to prominent positions in our secret labs... and then later in NASA. When profound (highly classified) technologies were discovered, our government *PRIVATIZED* it, as not to be held publicly accountable at that stage. And guess what: "former" Nazis in charge. Suddenly, the people who lost WWII found themselves with highly classified, privatized technology AND lots and lots of wealth. I don't find it at all a surprising speculation that these people have ties (if not control) the secret government and might have used the passengers for experiments. Of course, that is only speculation. Further, our government has countless and VAST underground facilities (and I would imagine, CITIES --like the one under Kansas City). Give the passengers a choice: "Give up your former life and join us in a new one, a secret one, perhaps a newly fulfilling one, as we will reveal to you part of the grand secret... OR (blow one of their heads off at point blank range to illustrate the gravitas of the situation) die."

I recommed reading two books:
THE NAZI INTERNATION by Joseph P. Farrell, and THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH by Jim Marrs. Also, HIDDEN IN PLAIN SITE by R. Sauder. --if you already haven't read them. It's scary, well-documented, and true.

Originally posted by Mactire
Two words: Operation Northwoods.

Northwoods has been in the contingency playbook since the 60's. Now look who was appointed to investigate the 9/11 attacks; Henry Kissinger. Those attacks were just a piece of the puzzle to kickstart the plans of the NWO.
It's all about population control. The NWO won't work if global population is too high. Earth needs to be DEVASTATED in order for their plans to take effect. The Twin Towers were just a link in the chain of events to come.

“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.” Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

What a fascinating post. There's much more to this quote than meets the eye in my opinion. Couple this with the famous quote from Wernher von Braun about threats (we've had terrorism, what was next....) and I laugh a lots of people in a certain sub forum of this website. Yes, disclosure will happen but even people from here will be duped, in fact many 'free thinkers' from here will swallow it hook line and sinker, and be grateful for it.

reply to post by Section31

Nonsense! The truth movement has been around since immediately following 9/11. Amadmanjihad merely jumped on the bandwagon several years later. Just because he's a highly visible head of state doesn't make him any kind of leader concerning 9/11 truth. "Even a broken clock is right twice a day."

reply to post by Black_Fox


i dont get how, or who, or why any money was spent for the commission. people willingly, with the exception of the POTUS and VPOTUS, gave their testimony. people wanted to find out whaf happened. so whats with the money? whered it go? 15million to sit in a room, hear testimony, and write a bs book..? i feel very cheated.

I don't agree with absolutely everything in this piece. There are however many points that I can not argue with. And therefore I star & flag.

A sinister government with a government.

Originally posted by Namaste1001
reply to post by TrickoftheShade

 

Nothing said? You need to watch again. Take the cotton wool out of your ears this time.

I really can't. Watch again, I mean, not remove the cotton wool. Although I can't do that either because -- well, for obvious reasons.

Obviously addressing people like they're in junior school is catching.

Still, so far the "undebunkable video" has two definite falsehoods and some vague statements that are certainly a matter of opinion. Is this really the best you've got?

Originally posted by Josephus23
Hey folks I have an idea

Let's all collectively ignore the so-called debunkers of the truth movement and just focus on the truth

Stop responding to their empty points and constant personal attacks

Just focus on what will set us free and that is the truth

We don't even have to put any of them on ignore status and I bet that

given time

They will go away and stop their personal attacks because no one is feeding them

"He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason."

-Marcus Tullius Cicero

Ignore opposing viewpoints? Greatway to get to the truth. Your quote at the end seems to point towards your own hypocrisy. How can you get to the truth with only one viewpoint allowed? You can't. Eliminate debate and what do you have? Nothing. Certainly not the truth. Questions are fine but only your questions? Shame on you.

Anthony Lawson. Obvious antiAmerican and antiIsrael.


Then Lawson shot an email debunking SC9. Stating the videos had animated foreground and background layers. That was proved a lie as well.

I'm a firm believer he helped Simon SHack create many of the faked videos. After all he was a video editor and director of commercials.

Read some peer reviewed studies on the collapse. www.debunking911.com...

Some of you people want so badly for there to be a conspiracy by the government it's unreal. Every explanation that comes along that portrays the US in a bad light you support, when it's debunked you move along.

DO a little research on the man and perhaps you'll understand his motives.

Our country is very similar to ancient Rome. We have come to rely on WAR for advancement. We have been sold on the "fact" that the world is caught in a zero-sum game. That is, for one country to advance, another country must lose something.

Most Americans are good, loving, caring and compassionate people. Therefore, the Powers That Be (TPTB) need to provide us a *PRETENSE* for war, a scripted reason for us to engage. They know that once pissed-off, Americans are the fiercest people in the world, and we know how to kick arss. Americans don't start fights. But, it is our time-honored tradition to finish them, like in any schoolyard. We're the good guys. --Now, realize I'm speaking of the average American, not people part of this dark elite, not part of that cadre of $hit-heads constantly immersing us into war after war after war.

I haven't seen the movie "There Will Be Blood," but I absolutely love the title. Only, change one word in it and you get the mindset of our shadow government: "There Will Be WAR." Eisenhower warned of this in his farwell address. Average Americans find the thought of a derailed public government under the clandestine control of a shadow government preposterous. They want to enjoy their BBQ, their NASCAR, their church ice cream socials, their TV shows, their tabletop miniatures, their StarCraft and comic books. They're GOOD people. They TRUST their public government. They know something is wrong, something is in the air, but they don't know what. But, the truth is far too scary for them to accept.

Therefore, pretense after pretense, from Pearl Harbor to Tonkin to Greneda, to 9/11... We are dragged into war. Our sons, daughters, husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles, cousins, best friends and soulmates are ground into meat and become HEROES. Rightfully, they are heroes, for they stood up for America. Only, America had been wound-up, pointed in a specific direction (not of its own choice), and set loose to accomplish the goals of the winders, the global elite. If only we were pointed in the right direction, these people might still perish and become heroes, only they would have done so exploring space or creating something more meaningful than securing an oil pipeline across Afghanistan or a tungsten mine in Africa.

I remember when the GWOT (Global War on Terrorism) first kicked off. Information came down from the top that this "conflict" would last decades. What grand pretense for the next, more aggressive, version of the Cold War. If we live another 20 or 30 years, imagine what the *NEXT* pretense will be. Hah, that's a great title for a novel about this: "The Next Pretense." Anyone watching WTC 7 collapse cannot rightfully claim that it was caused by fire. Please realize, it was part of the *pretense* for a war the elites believe we need.

reply to post by Namaste1001


S&F Thankyou for Posting

right at the Ending of the Video it talks about the Serial Numbers about the Parts on those 4 Planes

The Video Say's There's is no Evidence's of the Identification of those Serial Numbered Parts

I'm not sure if there is any Reports from the 911 Commission
I don't remember Reports in the News Media that tells about it


I Know for Sure My Father that worked for Pratt & Whitney

He Worked For them back in the Late 60s Early 70s
As We had a Discussion About what he did There .
that he had to Stamp the Serial Numbers Make & Model & his Code or His Own Initials
on The Part he was Making or was Assembling and basically from what my father told me For Crash identification & who's to blame from the Stamped Initials for the Part that failed ..

as I Assume Pratt & Whitney Has Kept All Records for Every Part was Made for Every Military & Commercial Plane Part that was Made at the particular Factory , as I Assume that Boeing has those Records Also

Boeing 767 Design effort
en.wikipedia.org...

For the 767 design, Boeing incorporated the engines used on the 747, namely the Pratt & Whitney JT9D and General Electric CF6,[9] with wings sized to match. The 767 was the first Boeing jetliner to offer a choice of engines at its launch.[8] The wings were large relative to fuselage size and provided higher-altitude cruise performance, along with capacity for possible stretched variants.[9] Moreover, the larger wings only increased fuel usage slightly and provided better takeoff and landing performance. The 767 wings had increased thickness for added fuel capacity, and their aft-loaded design produced the best spanwise distribution of lift on a Boeing jetliner to date.[8] The basic 767 was designed with enough range to fly across North America and across the northern Atlantic.[13]

List of accidents and incidents involving commercial aircraft
en.wikipedia.org...



Anther question the the News Media Missed is the Terrorist Attack Motive!


What motivated the 9/11 hijackers? See testimony most didn't


Purpose of the 9/11 Attacks ? September 11, 2009


and my Favorite Movie Half Truth ! is
Long Kiss Goodnight 1996

World Trade Center Attack Confirmation in 1996 May 24, 2006

Here is a video with some information in it about 9/11, kissinger and bilderberg etc...check it out...
has pink floyd music in it too and the lyrics go with the imagery...not a bad video..
link
www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by vipertech0596
Typical 9/11 "truth" video. Long on accusation, supposition and lies...short on facts. One of the most glaring (and offensive) lies.....Barbara Olson's phone calls to her husband. He makes the point that the FBI says she did not call him, however, he leaves off the rest of the story. True, her calls from her cellphone did not go through. But what the gentleman in the video fails to tell you is that on Flight 77, someone (Barbra Olson) used the seat back phones to call the Solicitor General's office (which the phone records prove). Mrs Olson, did not just talk to her husband, she also talked to the secretary who answered the call. The secretary, by the way, has stated that it was definitely Mrs Olson on the phone.

Uh oh, debunked with a single paragraph. Hats off to you, master debunker. Case closed!

That was sarcasm, by the way.

Blame OP for coming up with the title "Undebunkable". I love truthers and their use of absolutes. Vipertech did a fine job pointing out a very blatant misrepresentation in the video and now you don't like it. One paragraph does not make one a master debunker, but it does show that the rest of this video is probably made from the same *snip* that is typical of truther videos.

reply to post by cybertroy


What the planners of the 911 missed was that they expected at least one of the twin towers would fall on top of the building 7, so, that's why they planted the bombs in the building 7. Because it will justify perfectly why the building 7 fell. Unfortunately the twin towers fell right straight down without damaging the neighbor building 7. But they decided to just go ahead as planned and demolished the building 7 anyway which has become the biggest smoking gun and blunder of their evil crime.

Otherwise, it could have been a (almost) perfect crime.