Undebunkable 9\11 video.

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Has the 9/11 Comission Presented to the World " Beyond a Reasonable Doubt " that their Conclusions of what Happened that Fateful Day are the Truth , and Nothing But the Truth ? As More Evidence is Presented to the Public Contradicting the Official Report , it is just a Matter of Time before it is determined for Sure ................Stay Tuned.........

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
As More Evidence is Presented to the Public Contradicting the Official Report

Care to show us all this "evidence presented to the public contradicting the official report" ?

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In Time , it's coming dereks . Slowly but Surely ......The Suspense Must be Killing you , eh ? .........

i would just like to say to those who believe the official story WAKE UP!!! For starters Wtc building 7, why did it fall? then we have, Who got blamed?, Osama bin laden, what then did the american army do, went to iraq for saddam hussien?? for me this is enough to say wtf. im not that intelligent, i thinks its obvious this doesn't add up!!!

Building7 very much appears like a controlled demolition, but for some reason I seem to recall either the leaseholder or some other official stating that it was intentionally demolished, because it was unstable after the WTC fell...

Good vid Namaste thanks…

A mere $15 mil spent on the investigating the atrocity of the mass murder of three thousand people on American soil?!
That makes a grand total of $5000 spent for each life lost…
If that’s not an insult to the victims’ friends and families I don’t know what is…
(Not to mention the hundreds who were forced to breathed the asbestos contaminated dust and will succumb to asbestosis after the latency period has arrived…another ten years)

And what did the Commission accomplish?
All it did was raise even bigger and uglier questions than the ones it was supposedly trying to answer.

An full and impartial investigation is needed to restore confidence in the American government, which is increasingly looking like the Emperor with no clothes.

There is doubt about the level of US government involvement in the crime, but there is no doubt the government have done their best to hide the truth of what occurred on that day.

Why is the US government trying to cover up for the criminals who committed the 9/11 atrocity?

I don't think my country will have ever a leader who has back bone enough to stand up and tell the truth. The message that Obama sends to us is that the truth is not important and that it must never be told. How dare HE use the victims families, to scold Ahmadinejad's remarks? Which were not hateful at all. Obama knows we have many many familes who lost someone in those towers that are seeking the truth too. In my life time, I will not see such a leader who is for the people and for that, I am ashamed and sad. When my grandfather who is in his 90's speaks of 9/11 he always says that the truth cannot be hidden forever and I believe this. It's a matter of time, but it won't come from any leader. Obama sold his soul to the banksters.

Originally posted by lee anoma

Why should I care what Obama has to say about 9/11?


- Lee

Because he has a chance to do the right thing, and he won't.

Geat video

Anybody who frequents this and any other althernative media sites and still believes the official story regarding 9/11 has to be a blind idiot, you don't need a degree in engineering to realise those three buildings were brought down by other means (e.g controlled demolitions). One building then maybe it "could" have happened but "three" buildings collapsing in on themselves like that?

I'm also real "SNIP" off as before I came accross this forum and actually opened my eyes I fell for the British government's lies regarding WMD and the threat of Global Terrorism!
I fought in Afghanistan in a specialist unit in the British Army alongside my American brother's for six months for nothing but a phoney "SNIP" cause!
The Country is in such a mess and the people who live there have nothing yet the might of NATO is totally destroying a people who have nothing already!

I feel so sorry for any Americans reading this and what your Government and TPTB are doing to your fine Country!

My heart goes out to the families of the poor, poor people who were killed on that tragic day on 9/11

Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by Black_Fox

 

Still working on the exact figure, but the FBI alone spent 3.9 million man hours on the investigation. Even at minimum wage that works out to over 20 million dollars...and im pretty sure the average FBI wage is well above minimum.

That would be over 5000 people working full time, on nothing but the investigation, for one year.

Sure ...

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Excellent video put out by Anthony Lawson! Great find OP!


S&F

Originally posted by Mactire
Two words: Operation Northwoods.

Northwoods has been in the contingency playbook since the 60's. Now look who was appointed to investigate the 9/11 attacks; Henry Kissinger. Those attacks were just a piece of the puzzle to kickstart the plans of the NWO.
It's all about population control. The NWO won't work if global population is too high. Earth needs to be DEVASTATED in order for their plans to take effect. The Twin Towers were just a link in the chain of events to come.

“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.” Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

“The illegal, we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.” -Dr. Henry Kissinger New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973

“Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries”. -Dr. Henry Kissinger

“World population needs to be decreased by 50-70%” -Dr. Henry Kissinger

“The elderly are useless eaters” -Dr. Henry Kissinger

(That last one I find to be a bit Ironic. I guess his plans are running a little behind).

I have several other quotes made by other prominent members of the Government and Society. It's chilling to listen to these "Masters of the Universe" talk about us like statistical numbers that need to be rearranged and dumped from time to time.

What does any of this have to do with what happened on 9/11?

Originally posted by vipertech0596
Typical 9/11 "truth" video. Long on accusation, supposition and lies...short on facts. One of the most glaring (and offensive) lies.....Barbara Olson's phone calls to her husband. He makes the point that the FBI says she did not call him, however, he leaves off the rest of the story. True, her calls from her cellphone did not go through. But what the gentleman in the video fails to tell you is that on Flight 77, someone (Barbra Olson) used the seat back phones to call the Solicitor General's office (which the phone records prove). Mrs Olson, did not just talk to her husband, she also talked to the secretary who answered the call. The secretary, by the way, has stated that it was definitely Mrs Olson on the phone.

Just to add to this, it's all about credibility. To me the credibility of this video took a dive even with 1 false statement. A lawyer would have a field day with this guy as his credibility is already in question, surely a respectable person will make 100% sure his statements are factual.

Documentaries are an opinion of the creator and ALWAYS leaves out facts he doesn't agree with. That applies to every Documentary ever made.

Edit to say: So to say that this is Undebunkable is a huge statement for it's not 100% factual so a huge margin is left for theories and opinion.

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
As More Evidence is Presented to the Public Contradicting the Official Report

Care to show us all this "evidence presented to the public contradicting the official report" ?

Evidence must be argued over and demonstrated to be credible and relevant in a court of law.. not court of public opinion. Meaning news stories are not evidence, neither are blogs, bobble head opinions, govt employee/witness statements, youtube videos, 9/11 commission report, NIST and or any other US government findings/reports... not a single one counts as evidence until ruled "admissible".

An example of the complex rules of evidence: Federal Rules of Evidence (2009) here

Unfortunately there is nowhere to submit "new evidence" proper, 9/11is considered a closed case.. which is a total law enforcement anomaly in the US because there is NO statute of limitations on murder. Even when there is a "convicted murderer" sitting in prison, new information can be submitted to the court.. whereupon a defense lawyer & prosecutor will argue the "credible & relevant" merits in an 'evidence hearing'.

New DNA evidence showed govt evidence AND allegations to be inflated lies when Kenneth Ireland was freed after 21 years in prison for murder. The govt said "trust us", Irelands DNA is "linked" to a blood type found in ONLY 20 percent of the population, including Ireland.

So where would a lawyer submit new 9/11 evidence?.. nowhere. The US govt paid out $15.8 billion to keep 9/11 lawsuits from seeing sunlight. (Rand)

The govt tried to bring Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali to trial in NY open court, but.. lol Google it, epic fail.

Beverly Eckert refused to take the govts money, she vowed to fight in court, writing:

"I want to know what went so wrong with our intelligence and security systems that a band of religious fanatics was able to turn four U.S passenger jets into an enemy force, attack our cities and kill 3,000 civilians with terrifying ease. I want to know why two 110-story skyscrapers collapsed in less than two hours and why escape and rescue options were so limited. I am suing because unlike other investigative avenues, including congressional hearings and the 9/11 commission, my lawsuit requires all testimony be given under oath and fully uses powers to compel evidence . " quote from 'My Silence Cannot Be Bought - Beverly Eckert (RIP) From here

Beverly Eckert was killed in a plane crash... go figure.

NOBODY knows how much alleged 9/11 evidence submitted by the govt would survive being aggressively challenged in open court... meaning the overwhelming vast majority of the govts 9/11 allegations are 100% inadmissible hearsay.

And guess what?, the few folks like Beverly Eckert who refused govt money and demanded a trial are being handcuffed challenging the govts "official story" with legal maneuvering.. 9/11 victims are now "bellwether plaintiffs" in a court using "reverse bifurcation".. lol sad but true.

lawprofessors.typepad.com...

"Those who opted for litigation presumably are seeking something more. If they are seeking their day in court, the majority of the plaintiffs may be left unsatisfied by bellwether trials that allow only the bellwether plaintiffs to tell their stories in a public forum. Moreover, even the bellwether plaintiffs may be unsatisfied by a reverse-bifurcated phased trial process that allows them to describe their own grief but gives them no opportunity to hold the defendants accountable"

None of this concerns the puppet, he knows the govt and himself can lie about their "facts" and people will believe it without bothering to dig deep in the official muck to make up their own minds.

reply to post by Namaste1001

The video has plenty of facts that you can not disagree with unless your ego is not ready to admit that the reality you have been holding onto for all these years is in-fact false.

Or... if you're a professional debunker.

Money talks. Governments pay.

reply to post by Namaste1001


Star & Flag!

9/11 Investigation must be reopened!!!!!

Very nicely put together presentation that will hopefully dispell some of the ignorance and rhetoric propagated about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, 9/11, Obama and everything else spoon fed to us in an attempt to push forward with an agenda that is contradictory to our interests.


--airspoon

I completely agree that this was a cover-up - I always have. But there's just one thing that I don't get... people must have had relatives and friends who were supposed to be on these flights? What happened to them if they didn't crash into the towers? Where did they go?

Originally posted by vipertech0596
Typical 9/11 "truth" video. Long on accusation, supposition and lies...short on facts. One of the most glaring (and offensive) lies.....Barbara Olson's phone calls to her husband. He makes the point that the FBI says she did not call him, however, he leaves off the rest of the story. True, her calls from her cellphone did not go through. But what the gentleman in the video fails to tell you is that on Flight 77, someone (Barbra Olson) used the seat back phones to call the Solicitor General's office (which the phone records prove). Mrs Olson, did not just talk to her husband, she also talked to the secretary who answered the call. The secretary, by the way, has stated that it was definitely Mrs Olson on the phone.

“According to American Airlines customer service, the American Airlines maintenance manual for that aircraft, and American Airlines Captain Ralph Kolstad, seatback phones on 757s had been deactivated prior to 9/11/01”
rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com...
Maybe seat back phone, maybe not..

Was this alleged phone call to secretary (Lori Lynn Keyton) at the solicitor general's verified court evidence?.. if not its hearsay. Evidence supplied during the Moussaoui trial... the FBI reported one phone call total to Barbara Olson.. a "zero seconds" "unconnected call,” The FBI said in court Ted Olson received zero calls from his wife..

Evidence submitted in court:
www.911myths.com...

Article about same:
www.globalresearch.ca...

Lori Lynn Keyton allegedly told the FBI by phone, total hearsay & not evidence BTW, there was no caller ID on TWO phone calls where a voice like Barbra Olsons was heard.. a voice on the phone proves little.

Interesting an At&T operator (FBI report here) called the FBI to report a female claiming to be on flight 77 called reporting the plane had been hi jacked and ".. Hi-jackers were ordering passengers to move to the back of the plane and were armed with guns and knives"

OMG guns!?.. lol

So which is the truth? phone interview hearsay, or under oath FBI testimony?.. phones, no phones..I dunno, there are a lot more details to examine & compare... the govt, known liars, are only offering a narrowly focused view of a wide angle incident.