A Final Warning To All

Originally posted by lifecitizen

Are you insisting that nobody can learn their errors from random people on message boards??

I would be very surprised if you have changed that other posters mind, yes.

You technically just said, "YES, nobody can learn their errors from random people on message boards". Right? Or are you saying "Yes, I would be surprised"? You either failed to answer the question, or answered a question you created yourself.

If you said "yes nobody can learn their errors from random people on message boards"... would you like me to prove you wrong by showing you examples? Or are you going to be wise enough to notice this win-win question that shows you your errors?

Originally posted by lifecitizen

Are you insisting that message boards are completely pointless in conveying messages, finding errors, and solving problems?

Well a message board has never solved any of my problems.

Just because a message board has never solved any of your problems, doesn't mean it has never solved anyone else's problems.... You constantly are thinking about your self, selfishly, and judging the world by your own experiences. You must be having trouble learning from other peoples problems...

Do you want me to show you examples of message boards solving problems, or are you going to be wise enough to see your own errors?

Originally posted by lifecitizen
-if you seriously think the OP has helped anyone, well I shake my head.

The OP just helped a large group of people who are spreading the same message of love. He helped by helping them. And that is only one example... there are many more. I even listed some! You ignored them obviously.

Originally posted by lifecitizen
He needs to find himself a corner somewhere and then he would see just how well his message goes down.

This is the WORLD WIDE WEB. A corner is not going to reach people across the world like the WORLD WIDE WEB.

You are lacking logic.

It is getting to the point where people are forcing the feeling of hopelessness in here.

I know, I read the OP. all hopeless unless people repent.

Originally posted by la vieIt is getting to the point where people are forcing the feeling of hopelessness in here.

Wow.

...people are forcing the feeling of hopelessness...

This is the front lines, the battle for people's minds

You failed to admit that you are arguing and failed to admit that you are not following your own signature post.

uh huh.

Had enough of arguing with you Prophecy.

Messages of doom and gloom help NOONE. It's that simple.

Originally posted by lifecitizen

So running into a burning building and telling people the building is on fire and burning down doesn't help those in the building? You are wrong.

But we're not talking about burning buildings are we?

Technically we are.... there are burning buildings across the world created by bombs and hatred caused by lack of love of one another.

Are you not wise enough to understand the analogy? I think you are... but you don't show it.

Originally posted by lifecitizen
but, playing along, Im sure the people in the building already knew it was on fire without having to be told.

What makes you so sure?

Of course some of them knew... half of them are starting the fires. Many of them don't know they are starting fires. And some of them do not know there are fires because they are too young and still growing up to reality. Living next to people who are starting fires.

You are claiming everyone knows the building is on fire? Well, you are wrong yet again.. I'm not surprised.

Originally posted by lifecitizen
Humanity has been at war since day dot. Its nothing new. Just like the OP's message of doom and gloom is nothing new.

...and your point is...?

Why are you sitting around and doing nothing about it?

Originally posted by lifecitizen

So telling people to love each other is dogma?

Did you read the whole of the OP? OP said a bit more than love your neighbour.

Yes, I did read the whole OP. I asked you a question.... Is telling people to love each other dogma?

His over all message was that if we don't love our neighbor, we are destined for destruction. Which is the truth. We are getting closer and closer to destruction... which is the truth. Nations fighting nations, and no love.... it's the truth. We are traveling a path of destruction if we don't change our ways and love our neighbor. If the truth is doom and gloom to you, maybe you should do something about it so it will stop.

Telling people to stop telling the truth about doom and gloom will not stop it. Why don't you get up and do something about the path towards doom if you want to do stop the doom and gloom messages.

Or do you prefer war?

Originally posted by lifecitizen
Puhlease- tapping out a few lines onto a message board would hardly be regarded as helping someone.

Ok, why don't you prove it. Prove to me, and all of us, that message boards can not help someone. You will fail.

You want me to show you examples? Do you really wan't me to show you your errors, or will you be wise enough to see them yourself?

You seriously think a message board can't help someone?? Wow, I look forward to proving you wrong right after you fail to prove yourself.

Originally posted by lifecitizen
Like I said if OP had some stories of how they help in the real world, I would be interested in hearing about it.

You need someone to tell you how spreading love will help? You are not wise enough to figure this out yourself?

Originally posted by lifecitizen

Capable of reaching people in places the OP will never be able to travel.

lol, how do you know where the OP travels? how do you know he will never be able to travel to reach people? - you must know them personally?

It was an assumption. Not everyone in the world is capable of affording airline tickets, boat tickets, train tickets, rental car payments, etc., to reach places in the world that the internet can reach. There is a thing called satellite internet that can reach places without roads.... The WORLD WIDE WEB is the most effective way to reach people across the world. Are you denying this?

I don't need to know the OP to make such a statement. It's called wisdom.

One problem faced is that Human biengs try to rationalize and put a face on god. In reality what we call god is really a universal power that is linked to everything. I'm not preaching but if you really want to be one with "god"
stop trying to pretend that humanity is at the top of the list because human biengs have a long way to go before any real progress can be made. Humans have made some strides in technology and medicine, but without love and compasion its dangerous. People overcomplicate things but three things that are needed are never followed.

1. Never think that because you have technology you are superior to everyone else. Outcome is war.

2. Try to put yourself in the situation of your brothers and sisters (humans) its harder to kill if you can sympathize
and see that just like you they have family and you would not like to see them get hurt.

3. Its better to have faith than be guided by a organized religion, faith requires no monetary tribute no buildings that claim god lives in or punishment for making mistakes. People make all kinds of mistakes but thats how people learn and grow. Faith in yourself and your family and friends is all you need and helping can be costly and sometimes never appreciated but if its done from your heart that really does not matter.

Originally posted by lifecitizen

You failed to admit that you are arguing and failed to admit that you are not following your own signature post.

uh huh.

Had enough of arguing with you Prophecy.

Messages of doom and gloom help NOONE. It's that simple.

If their is evidence that ppl are working to enslave the human race, and
cull them by the billions I think it is fair to offer a warning.

You may want to go into it blindly, and if that is the case I am sorry
I spoiled your surprise factor.

There are however other ppl that do not have the same opinion or perspective
as you or the rest of the love solves all crowd.

History books are full of what has happened, and what continues to happen.

Over and over.

Unless something happens to make those ppl pulling the strings
change their ways it is going to continue in the same direction.

No one can pray the insane back to sanity, and that is who is running
most of the world.

Good Luck to all the good ppl, you are gonna need it !

Originally posted by lifecitizen

It is getting to the point where people are forcing the feeling of hopelessness in here.

I know, I read the OP. all hopeless unless people repent.

With this he is leading one to introspection to evaluate personal & global wrong doings. I see that it's important to mention this because All needs to come to understand any negative manifesting attributes in the self is a reflection of the current state of the world. To restore the peace on Earth one must find the peace within themselves to bring out into the world, and the release of guilt from past actions.

Repenting i.e. self reflection can open the doors to a humble path, and that is the destination for All, after one is done with the teachings of havoc.

Life is truly a lesson, eh?

Originally posted by PositiveVibration
because I do not understand hate no more

It is completely foreign!

Originally posted by lifecitizenMessages of doom...

"Doom, Doom, the Crack of Doom"

en.wikipedia.org...

Ragnarök

en.wikipedia.org...

Its a great theme!

Originally posted by Ω-PHI-Ω
Thas exactly it!!!! I knew you weren't, but i threw in a false with two positives and all you defended, like i thought you would, was the negative. You failed to admit that you are arguing and failed to admit that you are not following your own signature post.

Uh, no. You claimed I was enraged, and I asked you a question. What makes you think I am enraged?

Now, you are judging my actions based on your own opinion and thinking I am defending a negative.

Debating and having a conversation with someone with conflicting opinions does not mean I am not following my own signature.

You have no point.

Originally posted by Ω-PHI-Ω
Arguing with people about this topic is pointless, you will push them even further away from GOD, rather, speak kindly and show the truth of what it means to bear the fruits of the Holy Spirt, plant a small seed in the minds of those you wish to reach out to and let GOD do the rest.

I didn't even mention God. Nor am I trying to bring people to God. I was just debating and having a conversation about the importance of spreading love. Not arguing like you claim.

Again... you are wrong.

Originally posted by Ω-PHI-Ω
Do not argue with fools (as the bible says) and do not point fingures, lead by example, for if you can argue and judge, then why can't the person you are trying to reach out to not do the same as you?

I am not arguing or judging. I am pointing out the obvious.

The main point of the OP's post was to warn people to start learning to love, or we are all destined for the worse case scenario. It's obvious and common sense which people seem to feel the need to oppose, hence why there is opposition in this topic.

It's simple logic that people always forget and oppose... If you can't love, there will be no love. Without love, we are nothing. Read my signature... without love, we are nothing. Without love we will technically be destroyed, worthless, nothing...

His over all message was

was to find his God. Nothing more, nothing less.

A zealot proselytizing.

Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
No one can pray the insane back to sanity, and that is who is running
most of the world.

I find it quite interesting, the analagy of the building on fire with people inside that need saving.

I agree and disagree with what has been said, yes, someone need to go inside and help the people inside the burning building, but it is no use if that said person runs into the building and starts randomly screaming: "the building is on fire!!!!! you're all doomed to death if you do not get out now!!!!!!! open your eyes you idiots, can't you see the bulding is on fire, get the hell out you morons!!!!!!!!!!" ....

All this is going to do is cause mass confusion and panic for those people inside the building, and chances are, because of the confusion created, most of them will probably never make it out alive.

Wouldn't it be better if that same said person CALMLY walked into the burning building and CALMLY started teling the people: "Hey guys, looks the building is on fire, but if you look over there, there is a fire escape, if you want to get out alive people, head for the fire escape and exit the building please". Then this person would systematically make his way through the building and repeat his message.

At least when the people start feeling that the fire is becoming a bit too hot, and maybe, just maybe they should start considering to get out of the building, they will remember the words of the calm person telling them where to go for help.

I think that would be better than the randomly screaming person warning of doom and to follow him or die, because what will happen then, is that that persone will of course get a small percentage of followers of people inside the burning building and lead them to saftey, but the majority of the others that did not follow him will end up dead by the flames.....

SO.... Rather stay calm and do not cause panic, just let the people know how to save themselves and in the long run more good will be done over harm!

Using the word "warning" in the title could be taken subconsciously as a cancellation of any wisdom that the op was attempting to get across.

One would never "warn" someone unless they wanted to prevent something from happening...ya know?

I read the whole thread and what I read gave rise to the concern that our Creator (s) what ever your beliefs, definitely have a sense of humour, and that we need to learn to take it all in the same humour with which it is presented before we can truly reach enlightenment. Until such time, we will continue on the same path we have traveled so many times before.

It is up to each of us to make our choices wisely...

~holly

im proud to have you as a brother thankyou for your post

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy

Originally posted by Ω-PHI-Ω
Thas exactly it!!!! I knew you weren't, but i threw in a false with two positives and all you defended, like i thought you would, was the negative. You failed to admit that you are arguing and failed to admit that you are not following your own signature post.

Uh, no. You claimed I was enraged, and I asked you a question. What makes you think I am enraged?

Now, you are judging my actions based on your own opinion and thinking I am defending a negative.

Debating and having a conversation with someone with conflicting opinions does not mean I am not following my own signature.

You have no point.

Originally posted by Ω-PHI-Ω
Arguing with people about this topic is pointless, you will push them even further away from GOD, rather, speak kindly and show the truth of what it means to bear the fruits of the Holy Spirt, plant a small seed in the minds of those you wish to reach out to and let GOD do the rest.

I didn't even mention God. Nor am I trying to bring people to God. I was just debating and having a conversation about the importance of spreading love. Not arguing like you claim.

Again... you are wrong.

Originally posted by Ω-PHI-Ω
Do not argue with fools (as the bible says) and do not point fingures, lead by example, for if you can argue and judge, then why can't the person you are trying to reach out to not do the same as you?

I am not arguing or judging. I am pointing out the obvious.

The main point of the OP's post was to warn people to start learning to love, or we are all destined for the worse case scenario. It's obvious and common sense which people seem to feel the need to oppose, hence why there is opposition in this topic.

It's simple logic that people always forget and oppose... If you can't love, there will be no love. Without love, we are nothing. Read my signature... without love, we are nothing. Without love we will technically be destroyed, worthless, nothing...

If all of what you have said here is you true, AND I MEAN TRUE, sentiment, then i humbly ask for your fogivness of misjudgment of your character. I mean no harm and am only trying to contribute. Do you forgive me?

Originally posted by lifecitizen
Messages of doom and gloom help NOONE. It's that simple.

Wrong...

There is a thing called foresight. Foresight helps people determine possible outcomes of a series of events. These events could be good or bad. With your illogical opinion, all foresight that determines a bad outcome is not helpful. That is really, extremely, completely, illogical...

With your illogical opinion, telling a child "don't cross the street without looking both ways or you can be killed" is not helpful to the child... To YOU, it is a "message of doom and gloom"....

I hope you don't teach your children to ignore messages of "doom and gloom"... Especially warning labels on products. Those pesky "doom and gloom" warning labels on those electric devices never helped anyone right?

Thinking every message is "doom and gloom" will not help you.

Originally posted by lifecitizen
Had enough of arguing with you Prophecy.

It's too bad you didn't learn anything from this.

@gift0fpr0phecy

You never answered my question, please give me an answer before i leave this thread...?

ive always been a science kinda guy...taking logical explanations that make sense over the faith needed for god.

and although the bible and god tells us how to live...which is good...dont kill, steal, lie, etc etc...i just cant bring myself to believe something up there just through all this together and put us here in his own image to worship him.

i dont like the fact that if you dont believe in god you go to hell? just for not believing? is not believing such a bad thing? i mean gullability isnt good and all we have to say hes real is an old story book. isnt it arrogant to force people to worship you or punish them if they dont? not to mention the fact he made us to look just like him.

science is slowly but surely beginning to explain the universe and our existance...isnt it possible that there mite not be a "god" like it says in the bible...but just a more scientifically advanced, more intelectual life form, out there who has something to do with us being here...but did it through science not some force nobody could ever explain. or maybe we are just here because of a random string of events that lead to the earth being here and us being on it...with the amount of stars and planets out there it had to happen somewhere. its just more sensible than believing old stories.

and for me its a stubborn principle of mine to dislike authority and go against someone who tries to force or bribe me to do something...and god basically says worship him or go to hell.