A Final Warning To All

Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by GodJudgesMe
God Loves us all, homosexuals or not.

Could have fooled me

All the religious based connotations and quotes labelling them as unnatural and disgusting...thought they werent welcome

Would you please be so kind as to quote the reference in the bible where GOD says this? And just BTW, Homosexuality is unatural, I AM NOT SAYING BAD, please don't get me wrong here with what i am about to say, each to their own and no bashing here, but unatural.... yes, you do not see animals in nature pairing up with the same sex and you also cannot procreate offspring being a homosexual, so yes, unatural, yes.... WRONG? RIGHT? Sorry, but thats not my place to say, i would still be your friend either way

Originally posted by lifecitizen

I am not arguing or judging.

lol- telling people they are WRONG is arguing. And you've said it more than once, to more than one person.

What?!

So if someone says "2+2=5", and I say "You are wrong"... I am arguing and judging?

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy

Originally posted by lifecitizen

I am not arguing or judging.

lol- telling people they are WRONG is arguing. And you've said it more than once, to more than one person.

What?!

So if someone says "2+2=5", and I say "You are wrong"... and am arguing and judging?

edit on 30-9-2010 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)

LOL!!!! Of course you are arguing, judging not really.... but arguing yes, which is NOT wrong at all because you would then sit the person down and explain why 2+2 = 4 and not 5...

reply to post by Ω-PHI-Ω


Actually, I was refering to the numerous threads, mainly from Christian's that were condemning homosexuals. It wasnt targeted at the bible or anyone in particular, but it seem there are a lot of people that have an issue with it.

And for the record, there are literally hundreds of animals that practice homsexuality:

Dog, dolphins, emus, penguins, snakes, tortoises, turtles, cats, cheetahs, buffalo, rats, bison, elephants, caribou, chicken, seagulls, many species of fish, and thousands of insects.

Maybe you should read this

seedmagazine.com...

I guess we are getting off topic a bit to

and this

www.scientificamerican.com...

reply to post by IAMIAM


The only thing i want is to be able to love my wife and children forever.
What is love define it. the only way i can define love is for the love of my children.

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
reply to post by Ω-PHI-Ω

 

Actually, I was refering to the numerous threads, mainly from Christian's that were condemning homosexuals. It wasnt targeted at the bible or anyone in particular, but it seem there are a lot of people that have an issue with it.

And for the record, there are literally hundreds of animals that practice homsexuality:

Dog, dolphins, emus, penguins, snakes, tortoises, turtles, cats, cheetahs, buffalo, rats, bison, elephants, caribou, chicken, seagulls, many species of fish, and thousands of insects.

Maybe you should read this



seedmagazine.com...

and this

www.scientificamerican.com...

edit on 30/9/2010 by OzWeatherman because: (no reason given)

HMMM.... Interesting, i see where you are coming from and it is a sad state of affairs, because if you are a true christian, then you should not slam, hate, mock or ridicule a homosexual person... unfortunatly there are people who claim the title of a christian and people who practice the philosophies of actually being a christian if you know what i mean, and it is very unfortunate that proclaimed christians act like this for it should not be!

as to the animals and homosexuality thing... animals know no better and do not have laws to abide to, i have two male dogs and one female dog, many times i catch my little male dog humping the other male dog, BUT, it's only because they know no better, if i lead him to the female dog, he then starts humping her instead.....

LOL!!!!!!! OMW, What a thing to be discusing!!! ha ha ha ha!!!!

Originally posted by DAVID64
you will find that the story of Jesus is actually the story of someone much earlier. I won't go into a long, drawn out explanation. Look up the story of Horus.

You watch way too much Zeitgeist movies bra, thats some SHOCKING disinformation, Horus was nothing like Jesus.

Originally posted by Ω-PHI-Ω

HMMM.... Interesting, i see where you are coming from and it is a sad state of affairs, because if you are a true christian, then you should not slam, hate, mock or ridicule a homosexual person... unfortunatly there are people who claim the title of a christian and people who practice the philosophies of actually being a christian if you know what i mean, and it is very unfortunate that proclaimed christians act like this for it should not be!

Im glad you think like that

Good to see for once here

as to the animals and homosexuality thing... animals know no better and do not have laws to abide to, i have two male dogs and one female dog, many times i catch my little male dog humping the other male dog, BUT, it's only because they know no better, if i lead him to the female dog, he then starts humping her instead.....

LOL!!!!!!! OMW, What a thing to be discusing!!! ha ha ha ha!!!!

Well, they rely on instinct which IMO makes it natural

reply to post by Ω-PHI-Ω


Telling someone they are wrong is not arguing, it is just a statement with no contention.

Even then, this is being taken out of context.

Argument

1. a quarrel; altercation
2. a discussion in which reasons are put forward in support of and against a proposition, proposal, or case; debate: the argument on birth control will never be concluded

When I said I was not arguing, in context, I meant it wasn't a quarrel, or altercation (bad). However, I was creating arguments in a debate/conversation (good).

2 Timothy 4:2-4

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Nice humanist rant you gave. I also liked how you threw in a couple of vague Christian refrences as to reel in the non Bible reading church go-ers. The god you speak for is not the one the you have blasphemously tried to identify yourself as in your username. Proof of this is the response your getting, 95% of ATS members go into a seizure whenever the God of the Bible is mentioned, I wonder why this is not the case for your rant.....




:puz

as to the animals and homosexuality thing... animals know no better and do not have laws to abide to, i have two male dogs and one female dog, many times i catch my little male dog humping the other male dog, BUT, it's only because they know no better, if i lead him to the female dog, he then starts humping her instead.....

LOL!!!!!!! OMW, What a thing to be discusing!!! ha ha ha ha!!!!

Well, they rely on instinct which IMO makes it natural

Yes, you do have a point i suppose, but it is exactly what you say it is IMO... instinct, instinct to procreate offsping, nothing of love in the heart and knowling mating with a male species because this male species knows how to love it better than the female species... just instinct is all..... i have also caught him humping his toy teddy bear as well, does not mean he is in love with it, he is just instinctivly acting upon the urge to reproduce tiz all! ha ha ha!!! poor teddy!

Excellent Thread!

And very intelligently put.

I'm not religious, but your post make perfect sense as an atheist point of view. a divine creator is not needed to lay down the fundamentals of Human nature.

I know Manny people actually live like this, in a pure state.

Sadly evolution or Ideologies passed down from generation and the ancestral path we have gone down has tainted most of the Humans of this earth, the world we have created is incompatible to this Pure and fundamental way of life in most cases.

You would need to have a hand full of enlightened people move away and start again on another planet and build the fundamental Human society.

I also see it as a design fault,
think backwards to all ages of man right back to the first incarnation of man, have we ever really been like this as a whole?????

I'm sure greed, desire, tainted all man even cave men and pre-human quasi ape, species.

The only time I think this has happened is in small groups of people is in the last 5000 years.
Through education spiritual enlightenment handed down through ages and generations, we are slowly evolving and "patching" over the initial design faults of our first creation.

obviously looking at the world today this wont happen on this earth.

Therefore, I chose to know myself simply as I AM, needing no name or other symbol of division from you.

While I hold many of your thoughts equally I am compelled to chastise you for your use of "I AM". These words are reserved for the creator of all things and not some impotent boob calling for repent. Your use in and of itself is blaspheme in the eyes of God and demonstrates your lack of knowledge in the penalty for even putting yourself on a pedestal beside him. Have a glorious day and truly God Bless for you are the one who needs to repent your sin.

Cool story, bro.

Thankfully, my parents did a great job of teaching me to make friends and not be a sociopath, so delusions of God and magical men named Jesus aren't required.

Also, check out Carl Rogers' theory of 'Unconditional Positive Regard' - it's devoid of religious doctrine, messiah types and based firmly in the real and scientific world.

WTF is this nonsense? We were not created for 'love'. We were created by the anunnaki and our purpose was to procreate and mine for gold. LOL somebody trying to form a cult??

There is a problem with your "love in" philosophy.

There is Love, Power, and Wisdom.


Each without both others (in equal measure) leads to a pathological condition.



Example in your case, love. Love alone will lead to weakness, melancholoy, and general inaction. Think Emily Dickinson on an alchohol bing.


By your tone, you seem to have a healthy dose of self importance by seeing yourself as the harbinger of

"Oh no!".

A lot of what you say is good and creates a nice image mate but you seem to let on that you know more than you actually do. Also your message doesn't seem completely honest. People shouldn't have to listen to people like you to come to conclusions about spiritually. I appreciate the fact that you may have helped some people have a better view and outlook on life but you are kind of preaching.

And spiritual awakenment is meant to be a personal path without following a doctrine.

Nice thread for spreading love and getting everyone a bit soppy but not anything to base your religious and spiritual beliefs on.

What in the world ... can someone tell me briefly why this thread has so many flags and stars? Doesn't a post like this usually just get criticism for the poster pretending to be omniscient? Thanks.

I want to start by saying that I've been a member for quite a while, but rarely ever post here. The reason for this is basically self control. My questions, or comments are usually always asked, or made by someone else before the time I reach the end of a thread, so there is really no need for me to mirror something someone else already said. My habit is to read a whole thread before commenting, if at all. In this instance, I really feel the need to stand up and say something.

Ya know, this really saddens me. This guy creates this thread to give a simple message and instead of focusing on his message, a great deal of you decide to try to "debunk" the man. Really?? What the hell is that all about?? The man stated that who he is was not the issue. Yet you have so many people on here try to nit pick the guy about who he is, where he's from, what religion he is, whether he's from this frickin' planet or not. Really?? Come on guys, are you so used to this frickin' role of debunking and nit picking someone that you can't just take a simple message that will help you and leave it at that?

There are a great deal of you on here that believe something is coming our way, and not necessarily something good. We live in an age where everything is progressing exponentially, EVERYTHING. Science, technology, religious upsurges, violence around the world, natural disasters, social and political upheaval, all are progressing exponentially. At the rate we are going, the 2012 date seems as good as any for the pimple on the ass of the world, which I call Human Civilization, as a whole to come to a head and POP! Everyone feels SOMETHING is close to happening.

So, when a message comes down like this, a message of love, why is it so hard for you to embrace it, especially at a time like this? I have never been so disappointed and disgusted with so many ATSrs at one time. Is it sleep deprivation? What? I have never seen so many I.Q.'s drop in one thread. What happened??

Sure, the message is delivered in a unique and intriguing fashion, if somewhat theatrical. Isn't that how you get a message to stick into someone's head? Were it a bad message, I would disregard it out of hand, but it's not. Christ used parables to get his messages to stick into peoples heads. It's thought that Hitler used rhythym and intonation to put people into a semi hypnotic state. My point being, the delivery is everything. The messenger is not important. It wouldn't make a difference if it came from some 13 y/o kid in Idaho, playing around on his parents computer, if it were the Pope, The Second Coming of Christ, or even ET. The simple fact of the matter is that it is a message we all need to think about introspectively. Basically, "How do you want to leave this world, with fear, or love in your hearts?", isn't that what we all should be thinking about these days?

Just the rambling thoughts of a disappointed and slightly disgusted member of ATS.

Originally posted by cj6
wow! whether ur seriously an extraterrestrial or not is irrelevent because you've made a lot of sense. thanks for sharing but i doubt anyone will ever listen.

He didn't say anything about being an extraterrestrial? In fact he specifically said he was just like you and me.