Supporters of Glenn Beck

I'm really sick of stupidity being on this site

Originally posted by Oldnslo

Originally posted by PJAmericaThe sad thing is, if we all don't wake up and realize we are all Americans FIRST, and the assorted subdivisions come second, a confrontation lies ahead by plan. The Americans must join together as one united group to displace those that desire to pit one group of American against the other for "their" political gain. But again I have my doubts as there lies a propensity to stay engaged in the "divide and conquer" politics that have allowed TPTB to place us in the situation we now find ourselves in.

Will we ever wake up and change?

I don't know OldnSlo, let's judge your own DAMN post!

What is that you said before this?

The last place I want to be is with people like you that think like you do. If and when SHTF, its gonna be me and like-minded Americans on the other side of the line from you, and I believe there are more of us than you and yours.

If a confrontation ever occurs, I suggest you leave your "I Love Obama" or your "Glenn Becks a Crybaby" T-shirts at home. Those comments will make good "Bullseyes". If I can see it, I can hit it!!

Yup. No partisan rhetoric here. Yup, clearly you are a person who unites and not one who divides.

See, we won't get change because people like you calling for change don't want change; you want everyone to be just like you and to agree with you 100%. Anyone else is a liberal, progressive, democrat, communist, socialist, maoist.

You are NO different than the people who blindly love Obama and blindly hate Beck. You are the SAME damn person. Just as pathetic. Just as stupid. And just as guilty for every god damn problem we currently have. Because of stupid #ing people like you saying stupid #ing things, CONTRADICTING YOURSELF IN THE SAME #ING POST LATER ON.

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reply to post by FlyersFan

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by observe50
I do feel as Mr. Glenn Beck has changed for the good ...

Now there I've gotta' say something.

He hit rock bottom. He admits it. He came back and changed for the good. Yep ... for sure. But in the past few months he's changed again. I am not so sure it's for the 'better'. Perhaps he ran out of political idiots to expose, but he's reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally gotten on the far-right-Christian bandwagon and that's a BIG change from the Libertarian let everyone alone kind of thing.

He's changing. Perhaps he'll give up being Mormon and become some form of Fundamentalist Christian. Dunno. But I think he's sounding more like a preacher than someone who exposes corruption ... and while that'll gain him some viewers, it's reeeeeeeeeally going to turn others off.

To be honest with ya... I've started seeing this too...the second change... but i believe this to be the evidence that proves the [B]Potters Clay parable...[/B] God is working on us to shape us into what he wants us to be...

there are those who even in the Christian Fundamentalist that have forgotten... that we don't know everything....and they resist God's will thinking they know it better... never understanding that they are outside the will of God...struggling against his Changing force.

reply to post by MrXYZ

Originally posted by MrXYZ
So basically you want to create a Beck worship thread where no one is allowed to post anything negative about him? You do realize this is a discussion forum and people are allowed to voice their opinions because of the "deny ignorance" mantra, right?

You can't forbid people to rant about that obvious shill. He's endorsing a company that obviously rips of its customers, and clearly is against NET NEUTRALITY...something that all of us should be concerned about. AND he's turned into a total televangelist tapping into people's faith just so they'll follow his agenda. He also makes a living of taking things to extremes that have no real bearing in the real world. All just to get the people rally...just wish they'd realize his entire message is based on controlling the masses through faith, and badly researched statements based on either lies or half-truths.

Net neutrality affects ALL OF US, especially here on ATS...and Beck being against it just shows how deep he's in the pocket of big business:



If you want a one-sided Beck worship thread, I suggest you create a Beck fan blog...ATS is a DISCUSSION forum where people have a right to voice their opinion.

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LOL Why yes, yes please come in. Leave your coat at the Door ...along that wall there is some cookies and kool-aid...and games are in the back...



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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by centurion1211

 

No one's been arguing that he doesn't have the right to voice his opinion! But just like he has the right to voice his opinion, we have the right to criticize the content of his message...and content wise it's at least 95% garbage.

His stance on net neutrality makes it 100% clear he's either really stupid, or in the pocket of big business...while pretending to an "average Joe" at the same time. You do realize that this means he's exactly one of the elitists you hate, right? Because the elite will CONTROL THE INTERNET!

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No one?

Go back and read my post again AND what the member I was quoting said.

A "conservative elitist" you say?

I definitely will have to do some research on that entire concept because I don't recall conservatives telling anyone that listened (past tense) to Air America - for example - that the announcers were idiots or scum of the earth, or whatever AND that the people listening to them were stupid, or whatever. Perhaps I've seen naive and/or misguided, but never stupid - and worse.

That's the key difference I've been trying to point out. Elitists are quite positive that they are smarter and better than the rest of us. You just don't associate those attitudes with conservatives.

reply to post by MrXYZ

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by tspark

 

And his advice to solve the problem has been "turn to god and pray"!! That's not gonna solve our problems.

We may be surprised if we place the moral standards of our Faith at the center of things...and allow our decisions flow from that...could be a serious change in the way things are run....

IMO if we can get politician with Proven moral history...perhaps we can root out the corruption that is plaguing the government ...

With God all things are possible....right?

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I believe that moral or religious standards rely too much on personal interpretation. Each religion has different standards of morality; leaving us in the same boat as before.

I think we must revert back to the simplest form of a republic as we can. Where the individual and their rights are protected first and foremost without interference from government or religious entities.




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reply to post by centurion1211


I like how you conveniently dodged the net neutrality thing. It should be of prime importance to anyone here on ATS since having freedom of speech limited on the Internet is something we ALL should be concerned about...no matter the political affiliation.

reply to post by MrXYZ


Net neutrality?

I thought your post had to do with someone requiring you to pay for content on THEIR site.

Hmmm, I see, so if I wanted to set up a site where you had to pay to enter, you would be against that?

Or did I mess your comment up with someone else?

Now, you would have to define Net Neutrality, is that the new way of saying the fairness doctrine.

I keep hearing this Net Neutrality thing, but NEVER any definition of it.

Does it mean that the government will not force their views on us, or begin to tax the internet?

Seems to me they are pushing to begin installing the infrastructure. Does that mean they are going to control it?

Explain your perception or the ACTUAL meaning of Net Neutrality.

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

Net neutrality?

I thought your post had to do with someone requiring you to pay for content on THEIR site.

Hmmm, I see, so if I wanted to set up a site where you had to pay to enter, you would be against that?

Or did I mess your comment up with someone else?

Now, you would have to define Net Neutrality, is that the new way of saying the fairness doctrine.

I keep hearing this Net Neutrality thing, but NEVER any definition of it.

Does it mean that the government will not force their views on us, or begin to tax the internet?

Seems to me they are pushing to begin installing the infrastructure. Does that mean they are going to control it?

Explain your perception or the ACTUAL meaning of Net Neutrality.

Your post shows exactly how uninformed people are regarding the subject. Net neutrality has NOTHING to do with paid content. It concerns telecom companies who can favor certain websites over others, either making them inaccessible or only offering a tiny bit of bandwidth compared to others.

LINK

If 2 independent websites (such as ATS and FOX) both pay the same amount, they should get the exact same service...and not one more than the other because it fits the agenda of whoever's controlling the internet infrastructure.

That's what net neutrality is about, and not the twisted understanding you apparently got from Beck!

Net neutrality makes sure everyone has the same rights on the Internet, and no one can hinder a website simply because it doesn't fit someone's agenda.

Are you seriously against that?

Basically, if the government has ties to Comcast for example, and ATS is hosted there...they could limit the amount of available bandwidth for ATS. Anyone with relations to the Internet service provider and of course the service providers themselves could infringe on the freedom of whatever website they please.

I like Glenn Beck and I truly believes that he wants to do the right thing. Although I believe what he wants to do is add religion to government, which is a big no no in a free society. Sure it works for the people of his version of faith, but not all people should be controlled with religious rules, It is a wrong idea of America to think that we should make laws based on the bible or anyones idea of god.

I agree with Beck in that we need to get back to God in our personal lives, yet we must be carefull not to allow politics to become anything but civil.

Originally posted by humbleseeker
I like Glenn Beck and I truly believes that he wants to do the right thing. Although I believe what he wants to do is add religion to government, which is a big no no in a free society. Sure it works for the people of his version of faith, but not all people should be controlled with religious rules, It is a wrong idea of America to think that we should make laws based on the bible or anyones idea of god.

I agree with Beck in that we need to get back to God in our personal lives, yet we must be carefull not to allow politics to become anything but civil.

yeah....although i've always thought of "Do not steal" as a common courtesy too...as well as a moral Core...... i think having politicians with proven moral history would be good for us....as a whole

reply to post by MrXYZ


You're aware that the double edged sword that is net neutrality is that the government would have more control over the internet correct?

reply to post by SpectreDC

Originally posted by SpectreDC
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

You're aware that the double edged sword that is net neutrality is that the government would have more control over the internet correct?

and this is one of the thoughts Glenn and others have espoused, and that is why they/I am against it....

reply to post by Esoteric Teacher


I find it humorous that you have posted on EVERY SINGLE GLENN BECK TOPIC..........and you just keep copy and pasting the same response....

Apparently thats all you have.......once again.......your agenda is as plain as day.......

If you watched or listened to Beck at all, youd know that his wife made him wear that vest out of fear for him......

If Beck was REALLY frightened , he wouldnt have spoken at all.....

I watch all this vitriol that goes on with Beck , and how he inspires such hate and rhetoric from the left, and from so many people on this site......

And then i turn around and watch these SAME people call conservatives bigots, racists, intolerant and ignorant......

You attack Glenn and say he was a disgrace to MLK while he and all those people out there HONORED him and his words, and there was not ONE incident of racism......

While Sharpton comes around and accuses the rally as a bunch of angry white people......MLK would roll over in his grave.......

Some people cant see the forest for the trees can they?

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I'm really sick of seeing your post. You're always one of the first ones to hop on a conservative thread and blast away with your vile crap. Of course I want nothing to do with you. I suppose stupid is in the eye of the beholder.

I have always been a person that believes in the American people, but if you take positions which are diametrically opposed to our American ideals, then yes there may come a time when the SHTF and you pop up in my crosshairs. I did not put you there. You did so with your "beliefs", name callings, and the inability to read the writing on the wall. You will have no one to blame but yourself.

If a time comes where the American Republic is in dire straits and facing destruction due to other Americans attempting to destroy the freedoms my generation, and the many before mine sacrificed their blood, sweat and tears for, and you are one of them trying to undermine our founding principles, then I'm all for division. I cannot let you, and your political cohorts beliefs, negate the sacrifices made by all that have come before us. Many years ago I swore an oath to protect this nation against all enemies, foreign or domestic. I will honor this oath until I'm pushing Daisey's.

If that day comes and you hold the same beliefs and we become your enemy because of our unwaivering faith in our US Constitution and our inalienable rights, then there will be a problem. I suggest you find a place to hide well, keep low, stay small, and don't bring attention to yourself. (Fat chance!)

Stupid huh?

Name calling is the last refuge of the desperate. And I expect you to get even more desperate in the next couple months as you watch the Democrat's power slip through their fingers and end up in the hands of Americans with beliefs they hate and despise. You will be fun to watch as your BS turns around and slaps you in the face.

And lastly, take your immature name calling back to the playground where it belongs. We have enough of that here already. I would think you would want your posts to stand above many others, but it appears you are happy to chime in with those of like thoughts and be part of the herd.

Good for you.

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Mod Edit:
Courtesy Is Mandatory
Civility & Decorum are Expected

Please focus on the topic and not on the posters.

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Glenn Beck is nothing more than someone who has found his niche in life. His theories and ideas have been debunked so many times, it is not even funny. The OP lost me with his scriptures in his signature.

Glenn Beck puts on a show, he is an entertainer, and he very effectively uses fear to unite his followers. Him, Limbaugh, Levin, Farah, while there messages may differ, their programs follow the same rules.

Yes I lean left, I am a veteran, spend about 18 hours a day online, and read everything from Huffpo to WND. The answer to our problems in America are in the middle, not a damn theocracy like Glenn Beck wishes to create in this country, at least that is what he wants this week.

Anyone,
and I mean anyone,
who reads the teleprompter for any msm news outlet,
who sits there as the camera gets ready to either record,
or go live (on a delay circuit just to be safe) is a talking head who has not done any research into what they are about to say,
they are either hired because they are pretty or handsome and fill the needs that the producers are looking for to bond to the desired audience,
they are actors, not reporters.

Anyone who has their own news show, (even the comedic ones)
is an even better actor, and is actively participating in the design of the show the elements of the show the guests of the show, everything about the show they are hands on neck deep involved with,
they are revenue generating machines and they will stop at nothing to achieve the ratings that allow them to charge huge dollars for advertising for the networks,
their entire life demands it, and no story will go untold and no drop of blood un-noticed, even the weather is not spared.

these people, these shows, will not hit the air, will not be broadcast, not one little episode, not one sentence goes without pre screening,
they can suggest topics (and they do suggest ones , ones that the owners like once they feel their way to what they need to do to keep their high paying jobs)
they are pre written, pre screened, and run through a delay system, some as short as 15 seconds, some as long as a minute,
live television is rare very rare very very rare.
IF you want in the industry you will play the game or you will never see air, never never ever.
There are hired liberal mouths to piss off the hired conservative mouths and so on and so forth and it is nothing but an illusion, a televised, marketed, trumped up, trick to suck you in and keep you divided and have you hating and chasing fabricated enemies and ourselves.
Beck is one of the latest/best at this, they ALL work together, and they ALL work for the same people, the same companies, the same few masters.
They are tools,
fakes, entertainers? not in my eyes, they are weapons and tools.



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I'm not sure that all those people gathered together to specifically support Glenn Beck. People are just getting frustrated with the way things are going and he has the notoriety to be able to put together such a large gathering and attract people to it. I'm sure there are much more respectable people that could lead such a gathering, but nobody has ever heard of them, so nobody would give it any credibility.

Think of it like being invited to a concert by a band you've never heard of. If the band is touring nationally with a platinum album, it will probably draw you more than some local unknown. So my point is that I think Glenn Beck drew all those people to the rally because of his notoriety, it lends the event credibility (whether he deserves it or not).

If one compares the level of bad that Glenn Beck represents vs. his level of good, there is no question he does more good than bad.

Promoting wars is the ultimate bad - he passes this test.

Promoting statist healthcare is bad - he passes this test.

Promoting statist schools is bad - he passes this test.

Promoting statist cronyism is bad - he passes this test.

When Glenn Beck changed his views on the war and started calling for an end to them, I have to say I also was forced to change my views about him.

Glenn Beck also directly promoted the work of Hayek on his TV show, something I've never heard of in modern history. While Hayek isn't Rothbard, he's a hell of a lot better than Keynes.

It's hard to bash Beck these days.

We'll see if he changes his tune and starts calling for more imperialism, but so far he seems to be doing good.

Keytag,

You missed the boat.

Along with all strict constitutionalists when you all didn't support Ron Paul.

He's the one you need to research. He is the ONLY "non-liar" in congress or media. PERIOD.

I haven't heard anything he's said that I disagree with.

We as a nation let a HUGE opportunity pass.

Hope things get better for all Americans.