8.28.10 - Celebrate the Dream, Reject the Nightmare

I can really see the people who comment by hatred of an individual vs the effort of thousands who want to recover our country back to a liberty based constitutional republic governed by 'We the people'. Blinded by the lies of politicians who promise everything free..... There is nothing free!

I hope that this changes the hearts of Americans who have fallen fallow and impassionate, and have been filled with apathy for the chance and choice of freedom and liberty from a growing tyrannical government of which we yet still have a chance to keep whole and viable, yet only by a thread.

Ladies and Gentlemen.... You have the chance to change the syndrome that gave you this. Get rid of EVERY politician who has been in office longer than one term. And elect people who are not lawyers or lobbiests or have a net worth greater than $1M. Preferably they may own a small business and have a good grasp of the constitution and what individual liberty and soverignty means....Purge the cancer! It's our only hope.

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Yep this what i keep trying to say...they don't even watch him....

And you can pull "CLIPS" out of the Bible and make it a Very bad scene...but once you read the entire picture....it's hard to stick to that bad scene

Originally posted by ElijahWan
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR TO YOU! WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA FAILS, the COUNTRY AS A WHOLE FAILS, atleast during his term(s) of office.

This should not be true. Checks & balances, limitations of the powers of both houses of Congress, the judicial branch, and the presidency itself were placed by our founding fathers to ensure that the only time one of these branches was able to put our collective asses on the line was over matters important enough for all the branches to agree that it was in our collective best interest. Sadly we have abandoned that, instead regressing to a virtual ruling class system in which decisions are made purely along partisan lines and in deference to whomever is occupying the presidential throne.

Every issue the current president has adopted, with the single exception of strengthening America's present and future, he should be able to fall on his butt over with absolutely NO lasting negative effect on the nation as a whole. This is why it was vitally important for Congress to reject Clinton's health care bill... he failed, the nation did not. It was important for the Senate to override Reagan's veto of the 1988 Civil Rights Restoration Act. It was extremelt important for Congress to keep Jimmy Carter in check by essentially shutting him down and preventing him from causing any further economical damage the second half of his presidency. So far, 2 years into Obama we have had no checks and balances, just a disingenuous so-and-so with carte blanche from a very cooperative Congress with the desire and ability to devestate the future of this nation.

This idea that Obama failing is somehow bad for the USA I find very one sided. The other side of the coin essentially says if Obama succeeds, the country is damned. One coin, two sides, virtually impossible to see them both at the same time.

Don't be so desperate to cross out of the desert that you believe every snake charmer offering to sell you water.

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I see says the blind man pissing into the wind saying it's all coming back to me now.

Dude glen beck is not in power, the republicans are not in power, but you still bash. wow stop your bashing. blam your own party

So while yes Glenn Beck is admittedly conservative (Libertarian), this even and its message does seem to be one that transcends politics. The event has speakers of many races and political ideologies, not just conservative.

Also, everyone I know, from liberals to conservatives agree that the US govt has gone too far and needs to be reformed. Everyone agrees its too powerful and its grown beyond its intended size and power. Just because an event is planned by someone you dislike should not mean that you automatically disparage it.

So please try to be a little more open-minded. Its not about Glenn Beck, its about the message of the event and the content of the words spoken by those at the event. We should all be able to get behind those things.

I CALL BULL$*&#!

Libertarian, my fat $^@! Glenn Beck only cares about the rights of certain people. A conservative libertarian, SUCH AS RON PAUL, cares for the constitutional rights of every America, no matter what their sex, color, creed, religion, etc.

Glenn Beck has consistently gone against Muslims. He's gone against homosexuals.

And Sarah Palin is a sham, but you know what? I'm so happy that people still actually want her in office, groups such as the Tea Party. You may ask me why I'm happy, so I'll tell you why.

I hope that these social conservative groups fight against each other and knock each other out in trying to pick the candidate.

This is such an embarrassment for Martin Luther King Jr.

Originally posted by johnny2127

So while yes Glenn Beck is admittedly conservative (Libertarian), this even and its message does seem to be one that transcends politics. The event has speakers of many races and political ideologies, not just conservative. Also, everyone I know, from liberals to conservatives agree that the US govt has gone too far and needs to be reformed. Everyone agrees its too powerful and its grown beyond its intended size and power. Just because an event is planned by someone you dislike should not mean that you automatically disparage it. So please try to be a little more open-minded. Its not about Glenn Beck, its about the message of the event and the content of the words spoken by those at the event. We should all be able to get behind those things.

See, that's the thing, Johnny. You've been around here enough to know that there are folks on here who are INCAPABLE of transcending politics. They have to toe a party line, or feel they are nothing in their own eyes. They never stop to realize that they could probably form their own opinions, and nothing is ever truly entirely black or white.

The saddest thing is, both sides of this polarized spectrum think I must be speaking of the OTHER side... because they all think they've arrived at their own conclusions. It's always the OTHER GUYS who are party-bots.

That sort of thinking will be the death of us ALL, regardless of party.

Originally posted by OneNationUnder
OMG, sad, sad individual you are. It's not about the day, it's about the message on that day.

Instead of spewing hate, try to gather some people in a positive way, like Beck or MLK.

It always amazes me when people are scared they turn to tactics like this.

You need to start looking for the good in people, because all I'm seeing is you seeing bad. And that's the real shame here.

Either way, you're sleeping so hopefully you will awaken soon. Good luck with that.

Glenn Beck is not for the good. All he cares about is himself and making a profit. This Restoring Honor nonsense is disgraceful not only to good hearted conservatives, but to this entire country.

Wow! I see a lot of misunderstanding of what it means to be a Libertarian.

It is no lie that some Libertarian philosophies are shared with Conservative and Liberal values. Unlike both the Republicans and Democrat parties, Libertarians consider 'individual liberty' more important than anything else. If something threatens such 'individualism', we consider it a threat to our overall existence.

Once Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton became president, they both moved their political agendas to the center. Why? Both presidents knew that 90% of the country (voters and non-voters) are Libertarians.

Glenn Back is a Conservative-Libertarian. (Right-Center)
Ronald Reagan was a Conservative-Libertarian. (Right-Center)
Bill Clinton was a Liberal-Libertarian. (Left-Center)

George Bush is a deep seeded Neo-Conservative (Far Right).
Obama is a deep seeded Progressive (Far Left).

Technically, Libertarians are what Conservatives and Liberals used to be a long-long time ago. When people wanted a government to ensure 'individualism', Libertarians helped establish the first Conservative party to run in opposition to Liberalism. Now, we are a different entity entirely. Neo-Conservatives have taken over the party.

Clip: Helpful Guide

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"You will see something on Saturday that has not happened in America for 228 years." - Glenn Beck

Anyone have any idea what happened 228 years ago that is so significant to Glenn's cause?

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I just gotta point out the contradictory nature of your post. you call on the OP to look for the good in people and have a positive influence like "MLK and Beck". You do realize that all Beck does on air is berate, mock, denigrate, threaten, scream at, insult, and condemn people, right?

Originally posted by tspark


All i ever heard is prepare for the Hard times to come...to not "eat, drink and be merry.."....meassges like "Love your neighbor as yourself..."

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How does his supposed message "love your neighbor" reconcile with the way he judges, blames, and insults people on air?

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you must not tune into his show. you like the rest that get the cut up clips that miss represent him. All he says almost every show is the people can do it better themself with out goverment help. The people need to learn to go back out there and pick themself up and not relie on the goverment. thats about it

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Glenn Beck is an opinion columnist who uses history lessons to inform the public. Since he is not a politician or government official, he is not bound by the formal behavior that others must maintain.

Beck is similar to Maddow and Oberman, but on the opposite side of the track.


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I think it's funny how people defend Beck with: YOU HATE BECK.

Oh boohoo. Really, I don't care about Beck. I don't pay attention to him. If he's a Libertarian the platform must have drastically changed since I worked for those guys 2 years ago. Shoot, stuff happens though who knows.

Even if people who are against Beck hate him it makes no difference. They aren't hurting Beck. Get a new argument.

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If you tune in to GLenneO you must tune in to
fox .My only question is -----WHY? Do you waste your time AND ENERGY? WHY???? He's a ex-druggie that needs a fix. just to prove he's worthless like the junk he tries to call news....

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Is it okay or not okay to have an alternative opinion? Do we all have to have the same world philosophy?

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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by johnny2127

So while yes Glenn Beck is admittedly conservative (Libertarian), this even and its message does seem to be one that transcends politics. The event has speakers of many races and political ideologies, not just conservative. Also, everyone I know, from liberals to conservatives agree that the US govt has gone too far and needs to be reformed. Everyone agrees its too powerful and its grown beyond its intended size and power. Just because an event is planned by someone you dislike should not mean that you automatically disparage it. So please try to be a little more open-minded. Its not about Glenn Beck, its about the message of the event and the content of the words spoken by those at the event. We should all be able to get behind those things.

See, that's the thing, Johnny. You've been around here enough to know that there are folks on here who are INCAPABLE of transcending politics. They have to toe a party line, or feel they are nothing in their own eyes. They never stop to realize that they could probably form their own opinions, and nothing is ever truly entirely black or white.

The saddest thing is, both sides of this polarized spectrum think I must be speaking of the OTHER side... because they all think they've arrived at their own conclusions. It's always the OTHER GUYS who are party-bots.

That sort of thinking will be the death of us ALL, regardless of party.

Oh I've seen what you describe from people of any political persuasion. Politics is not a team sport ladies and gentlemen. We need to stop ripping apart everything someone says purely because you don't vote the same way as them. The message and purpose of this rally in DC is something we can all get behind. Don't get behind Glenn Beck, get behind the message. Listen to what is said before dismissing it. This is meant to be a rallying cry for Americans to take their govt back. How could any of us disagree with that? Calm don't, don't dismiss it purely because of Beck, and just listen and THEN form your opinions.

I keep hearing that this event will not be political but I don't personally buy it. Sarah Palin is there, the "Tea Party" is there, you're in DC, and Glenn Beck is speaking. Even ignoring the fact that the "Tea Party" will bring signs and be chanting, I can't see Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck not making this political.