A new kind of cloud formation boils over the central US

reply to post by dragnet53

Hi !

Forms of exceptional clouds of the USA! Nothing of it in France (I spent 9 years in America).
With the scalar gun, they can do everything. Everything!
Americans have the scalar weapon (911) as the Russians. The Chinese have developed the atomic bomb 'own' (with radiation wave the Earth). The wave grid all electronic systems on its passage.
After: The world of silence. Zero communication!
The electromagnetic force allows push seawater, flying an aircraft, find oil and the hidden under sailors. It may make the holograms. Bizarre, why not clouds!
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Les formes de nuages exceptionnels des USA ! Rien de ça en France (J'ai passé 9 ans en Amérique).
Avec l'arme scalaire, ils peuvent tout faire. Tout !
Les américains ont l'arme scalaire (911) comme les russes. Les chinois ont développé la bombe atomique 'propre' (avec rayonnement d'ondes autour de la Terre). L'onde grille tous les systèmes électroniques sur son passage.
Après: Le monde du silence. Zéro communication !
La force électromagnétique permet de pousser l'eau de mer, piloter un avion, rechercher du pétrole et des sous marins cachés. Elle peut faire des hologrammes. Des nuages bizarres, pourquoi pas !

I just saw the same type of clouds in NC about 2 weeks ago. Have a mov. clip of em.

[edit on 6/12/10 by Dracan6]

reply to post by Crossfate


How toxic does anybody think/test equipment read-outs?

I live over in the UK and we continous heavy spraying over in the middle of the country and in majorly heavy popualted cities at lower atmospheric distances from the ground I'm guessing around 1000ft-1500ft then at night when the it gets chilly in the early hours of morning it leaves a strange residue over the fences/hedges/spider webs/gates/footpath/road/windows of cars and houses/lamp posts/ Its like a sticky/powdery white substance mixed in with rain.

This white powdery substance residue forms and crystallises after water rain drops have evapourated leavinf stained rain drops on the car's paintwork all over the windows which smugdes when wipers are used and takes a matter of a few attempts to wash this white smudge off the windows.

In the early hours of morning it appears to look like a low density of fog and indeed is very thick and cannot be seen through. We have had opposite our house in the countryside above the trees that are roughly 30ft high another 5 feet above the tree tops a low density of mist hangs over-head and is very peculair in shape as it hangs there still! Its formation is the same as these pictures. It looks very much of the boiling water feature.

reply to post by DClairvoyant


I don't know about any "mist" or "white residue"...but, since you say it's so obvious, would be just as easy to have it analysed, yes??

I live over in the UK ... continous heavy spraying over in the middle of the country and in majorly heavy popualted cities at lower atmospheric distances from the ground I'm guessing around 1000ft-1500ft...

OK, gonna interrupt you, there. 1,000 to 1,500 feet??

Are you very familiar, at all, with airplanes, and apparent altitude? Because, AT THOSE ALTITUDES, the make and model of airpane can be easily determined, even with the naked eyes. Is this the case? Heck, you could even read the registration numbers, with some decent binoculars. (Hint..in the UK, the registrations all begin with a 'G', followed by a dash (-), then FOUR more letters, all upper case).

SO...if you're estimating them at (max) 1,500, you should be able to identify them for us.

... then at night when the it gets chilly in the early hours of morning...

The airplanes are 'spraying' at night, too? Must interfere with your sleep then, eh? From only 1,500 feet, they'd still be pretty loud.

But, getting chilly in the wee hours of the AM? Sounds pretty normal for England...

... it leaves a strange residue ....Its like a sticky/powdery white substance mixed in with rain.

And, we're back to the begining...have it tested, why don't you?

We can wait.....

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» Science & Technology » A new kind of cloud formation boils over the central US

these clouds are now in phoenix, arizona!

we're suppose to be getting rain and these clouds looked way different than any rain clouds ive ever seen here. i'll take some pics soon.

Originally posted by stars15k
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

 

Sorry, but while I'm not a professional, I am a decades-long cloud watcher and can name clouds like some people can wild flowers or birds. I know they are real natural clouds, I've seen them myself before, during and after formation.
Clouds are clouds, and are formed by the atmospheric conditions and lots of science and physics. They have been pictured by man for millenia and photographed from the beginning of cameras. They do not need any help from man.
Here's a link to "prove" that. There are no asperatus pictured, but if you read how the pictures were taken, you have to give him some leeway. It was published in 1905, before man first flew any kind of plane, so cannot be "chemtrail" or even contrails.
consci.s3.amazonaws.com...

You know...That was the BEST way to approach a counter argument that I have seen so far on this entire thread. Even though I do not agree with you, I give you credit for approaching this with intellect and respect. You're the first of your breed on this thread.

Thanks for being cool.

Much love to all...

Originally posted by taguon
these clouds are now in phoenix, arizona!

we're suppose to be getting rain and these clouds looked way different than any rain clouds ive ever seen here. i'll take some pics soon.

I can't wait to see them. Keep us posted.

Great cloud pictures. They capture great examples of thermal and hydro dynamics at work in our atmosphere. We as humans, living on the planet are in awe and inspired by their beauty and immenseness. We somehow feel small and insignificant being dwarfed by these huge structures appearing above us. Fear may arise in those who refuse to acknowledge that our earth, solar system, galaxy, and universe are much much older than the time we have been on the planet. Lets refer to this information
en.wikipedia.org... when discussing these beautiful cloud formations. Is our planet changing? Yes it is. It has been since it's inception. Has man influenced these changes? Yes. Science has enabled us to better understand and influence our surroundings. Do chemtrails exist or are they just aircraft engine exhaust vapor? Who knows for sure. But if there is some form of chemical being emitted from aircraft, I question if it is meant to harm us, or to protect us. Consider cloud seeding. What is it's purpose?
en.wikipedia.org... weather modification. Is weather modification causing us harm? Recent flooding on our east and central regions and deaths associated with this may say yes. Maybe there is a bigger issue affecting our planet that requires us to take steps to modify our weather so as to protect the human race. I don't know yet. I come here and other sites to monitor what is going on and read what others have to say about it. I do know this though. We (the human race) are just infants in our understanding of our existence in time and space. Mother nature is a beautiful lady. I love her no matter what she has in store for us. I'm here for only a fraction of a second compared to the time our universe has and will be in existence. Lets enjoy our time here with our eyes open and a smile on our faces.

reply to post by OzWeatherman


I've seen these off and on over the years, mostly when I lived up in the mountains. They usually happened about a day before a big upper level low rolled in during the Spring or late winter. I always thought they were something caused by high altitude, like a variation on Lenticular cloud formations over mountain peaks, but then I saw them form overhead when I was the by coast only recently. In the mountains, we lived up around 7,000 feet above sea level, so we usually noticed these kind of clouds right before we got "thunder snow" or a garden-variety T-storm. I think they resemble a rumpled blanket - they're very photogenic, aren't they?

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Mariposa5512]

Originally posted by DClairvoyant
I live over in the UK and we continous heavy spraying over in the middle of the country and in majorly heavy popualted cities at lower atmospheric distances from the ground I'm guessing around 1000ft-1500ft

I live in Worcestershire. Where are you? I've never seen anything remotely approaching what you are describing. Nor has anyone else I know.

Mind, I've only lived here 10 years. Before that I lived in the Scottish Highlands, Gloucestershire and Suffolk. Again without ever seeing what you describe.

Odd that?

Those clouds are indentical to the ones that persisted over northern Ireland most of last year, and some of the year before. I mentioned them in other posts here. A local newspaper even took pictures of them, they are so unusual. Here they are not associated with storms however, and persist all day, or most of the day. I think of them as being propagated by spraying seawater to make cloud cover, since the global warmer brigade have insisted that the reason for global warming is not enough cloud cover. The clouds are usually fairly low, around 3 to 4 thousand feet or so, Undulating is a very good description, as that is what it looks like, but that could just be an effect, as when they are present the whole sky to the horizons are covered and there are no reference points, like a clear sky in the distance. Maybe a good idea would be to record the clouds when present, and some kind of picture might emerge.

[edit on 12-6-2010 by smurfy]

wicked cloud formation.I would love to see that up close.

reply to post by EvolvedMinistry


was on my way to work when i saw them, but on my break i went out and they were gone. if anyone here is in phoenix, you may have saw them too? i saw them around 10am - 1030am it wasnt as big as the other pics, but the shape and texture were pretty identical

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I have never in my life seen a cloud shape that even resembles that at all. I would be in horror if i saw that cloud in my backyard. Who knows what it would produce. These pics are wonderful.

I live in Missouri, in fact I can tell you exactly where those pictures were taken We have been having lots of interesting weather here, thanks for the post!

Okay, I thought I would look up some more information regarding chemical trails left in the sky that makes cloud structures etc, that look similar to the one's that are on this thread. Now, apparently there is MASSIVE resistance to this idea, or the existence of chemtrails. However, that is simply amazing to me. You would literally have to be BLIND not to look up into the sky and see them. Its not like my eyes need adjustment, because I have perfect vision. So, people are literally arguing against me what I have personally witnessed and filmed with my own cameras and that is CLEARLY up in the atmosphere for the entire world to see. It would be one thing if the stripes weren't all throughout the sky and were not clearly visible, but as it were, I can't deny what my eyes are witnessing. That's literally like looking directly at a car which is sitting right in front of you, and someone telling you that it doesn't exist, that they can't see it, and that you're nuts for entertaining "such a ludicrous idea." Its RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU.

Here's a small example of what I filmed just the other day and even posted on this thread on a different page: Watch all the way through. These jets are spewing garbage all over the sky and it is apparent. Not only in criss cross grid patterns, but layered stripes throughout the sky.
www.youtube.com...

Soon, I will be going to the Telecom dept. at Indiana University to time lapse hours of my own video, and, I seriously CANNOT wait to post it to this thread or create another one for that matter.

Here's a vid that was posted on youtube. Pretty interesting and educational if you ask me. This vid shows the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail.
www.youtube.com...

Discovery Channel: It presents both sides of the views.
www.youtube.com...

Contrail VS Chemtrail: Sorry folks of disbelief, but there's some obvious differences here.
www.youtube.com...
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Chemtrail clouds:
www.youtube.com...

This kid knows more than 90% of the public and its a shame that a child can see what an adult simply cannot.
www.youtube.com...

Look at the perfect geometry and rolls in the bubble clouds at 2:13 into the video. These are some of the same clouds, if not the exact picture, that another poster put either on page two or three. Now, do those rows look like strips??? Do they look like the same types of strips seen in many of these vids as a direct result of the lines and grids of the trails themselves???
www.youtube.com...

More links. If nothing else, look at another side of the opinion here and watch these. You might learn something.
weatherwars.info...
www.youtube.com...
This vid shows a progression, but, it won't be nearly as effective as mine when I'm done.
www.youtube.com...

So, for all you guys playing damage control for the govt. and trying to manipulate the realities of others, and you know who you are, eventually others will wake up despite your smear campaign against people who are aware of their surroundings and environment. The clouds listed by the OP are not NORMAL CLOUDS. I have studied meteorology in school, and, although I am no meteorologist, I did quite well on my exams. Therefore, insulting one's intelligence for thinking counter to the mainstream, is really an insult to your own intellect. Secondly, the guy who created the "weatherwars.info" site, WAS a meterologist, and of course, when he presented this very important information, he was deemed a nutball and a conspiracy theorist by his co-workers. It seems all one has to do to invalidate the hard work of someone else is peg them with a name that does not conform with the norms of society, and then they are ostracized for doing nothing more than trying to inform an otherwise apathetic population. And, this oil spill mess is a perfect example of how apathetic we actually are.

These guys will adamantly tell you to look the other way, don't question your surroundings, stay with the pack. However, the pack is being led right down the toilet like a bunch of lemmings who consistently play "follow the leader."

Wake up. These guys who are labeling anyone who attempts to understand the world around them as a fool, or a crackpot. If you continue to think this way, you will never have an original thought or the critical ability to think outside of the box that has been made for you. It has already been proven that the Obama Administration has hired "Disinfo Agents" to infiltrate sites like this to sway public opinion against conspiracy theories and to keep our thought patterns within the mainstream. If we were all nuts, why even take this measure???

rightwingnews.com...
corner.nationalreview.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is openly admitting what ATS knew all along. So, why should you believe anything that these same regular posters have to say especially when they are in the same groups, attacking the same threads, and saying the exact same things??? I could put out a list of the avatar names, because they all travel in packs, but, I will leave that one for you to figure out.

Wake up guys and see what is happening. If you believe that these are normal clouds, then fine. But don't stagnate someone else's progress because you are in denial, or that you simply don't believe.


[edit on 13-6-2010 by EvolvedMinistry]

reply to post by EvolvedMinistry


Why must you keep bringing this thread back to the chemtrail argunment?

You are completely off topic.