It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
The present to you,the range from 2000KM to over 13,000KM,enjoying it.
We have a mass of them,cover the whole world.
Originally posted by Vanguard
The present to you,the range from 2000KM to over 13,000KM,enjoying it.
We have a mass of them,cover the whole world.
crazy commy talk - this was about the J-10 not BELIEVE ME I HAVE NUKES.
J-10 - as someone said before even if it was better than the f16 the vastly superior avioncs and weapons in the US will dominate.
let em keep copying - they will never construct a knowledge and innvoation base comparable to the US.
Tiawan - alot has happened in 3500 years - not alot has originated from china in that time.
anyways tiawan would give china a serious pasting nevermind the US - let em scrap it out
If U.S intervene the war between Twain and Chinese mainland,what will we do and what can we do?
Originally posted by gastric cancer
Originally posted by jazzmaster
Originally posted by gastric cancer
I forgive you for your little Chinese history.
Two mistakes:
1.Taiwan is not a country,It is a part of China.This is common sense!
2.There are no Paracel Islands in the world.there are Chinese South islands.Remember!!!
Before 3500 years,our people had landed Chinese South islands and named them use CHINESE(Did your country exist at that time?).They noted them in books and maps.Our acient books from that times showed it,they were all in Chinese.
Several hundred years ago,our people had already live in these islands.Our acient books from that times also showed it.
In 1933,Chinese government(PRC was established at 1949,so it is none of communist party's business) claim the dominion of south China sea,the same as "communist country".
So these islands belong to China.Simple,never changed!
I suggest you to take some Chinese history course.
If you categorize seafaring and records written by your people, I do not think that is a very solid arguement. If you read elementary history books of the Philliphinos and Vietnamese, you would see that they also have "South China Islands" in their ancient records also.
The Philippines people arrived at their islands 250,000 years ago by land bridge due to the fact of Ice Age. That was when sea level was much lower than it is today. They WALKED there along with Indonesians, Spratly Islands were much more exposed than today.
It is recorded in world history.
In 1624, the Dutch arrived at the island of Taiwan. They found only the aborigine population on the island: there were no signs of any administrative structure of the Chinese Imperial Government. They brought Chinese workers as migrant workers to work on rice fields and plantations.
It is recorded in the record of the Dutch.
It is only after China became Communist that Chinese started to migrate to Taiwan.
The South China Sea consists of four major groups of islands:
1.Spratly Islands
2.Macclesfield Islands
3.Paracel Islands
4.Pratas Islands
Since every country has a different name for America, i guess it is the same for this situation. Naming something in your own language does not mean you own it
Thank you for reading this. And again, waiting for your comment.
"An open-mind is a door to knowledge." Jazzmaster
[edit on 15-6-2004 by jazzmaster]
[edit on 15-6-2004 by jazzmaster]
So different countries have different history.
"It is only after China became Communist that Chinese started to migrate to Taiwan. " is a lie.The poeple in Taiwan had used Chinese words and spoken Chinese hundreds years ago.Why they haven't their own language and words like Japan or Korea?Denying the relationship between Chinese mainland and Taiwan is meaningless.
I admit that the dominion of Chinese south islands still remain argument among these country.But I have no right to give these islands to others and we don't want to give to others.
If you were me,you would do the same.
Don't forget the war between UK and Argentina.
[edit on 16-6-2004 by gastric cancer]
Best just factor in that intervention before you go crazy on Tiawan
Originally posted by gastric cancer
So
you mean if we invade Taiwan, we will face U.S forces first,aren't you?
Originally posted by Vanguard
I dont think China will have the balls to invade anyways - too much to loose
Originally posted by gastric cancer
Best just factor in that intervention before you go crazy on Tiawan
So
you mean if we invade Taiwan, we will face U.S forces first,aren't you?
[edit on 16-6-2004 by gastric cancer]
Originally posted by jazzmaster
Not really, China is not afraid of his casualties, it has 2 billion people at its call. I think China will fire missiles at Taiwan's coast to clear the area and its army will flood Taiwan with massive troops. They do have the largest army in the world, why not use it
[edit on 16-6-2004 by jazzmaster]
[If you really want to know the truth,using your eyes,not your ears.
Originally posted by Vanguard
www.nwc.navy.mil...
have a read
Originally posted by roniii259
[If you really want to know the truth,using your eyes,not your ears.
Your eyes can be decieved, that is what a magician is paid to do.
I am sorry if I have seemed belligerent to your country. I believe that China is a great society with much potential and a unique culture. I just believe your government stinks and should be thrown over. When it is we Americans will flockk to aide you to develop your country to its rightful place as an equal to the other superpowers. Your country will never reach its greatest pottential if the government does not care for its people rather that its beaurocratic interests.
Originally posted by gastric cancer
army.tom.com...
bbs.china.com...
Originally posted by feindflug
Originally posted by gastric cancer
army.tom.com...
bbs.china.com...
oversized jaguar copy that also should have entered into service in the 70's
[edit on 16-6-2004 by feindflug]
Originally posted by gastric cancer
It is equal to tornado with more bomb and large flight radius.
Shape means nothing.