Extremely Rare Astrological Alignment Could Spell Global Meltdown In Late Summer

reply to post by glitchinmymatrix


Wow...based on what first hand information?...have you put forth a study of the material?...there are volumes.

How is it that the gravity of the moon effects our tides...you are 70% water as is the earth...so It causes one pause does it not...cant you imagine a similiar pulling of the element on you as on the earth?

Now dont you suppose that since each action has an equal and opposite reaction(based upon dimensional perspective mind you) and each planetary body imparts electromagnatism/gravity that all interstellar bodies have effects on all interstaellar bodies on some percieved or imperceptible order?

To dismiss a science that is older than western society out of hand without the first glimmering of understanding falls into a catagory that Id rather not call someone.

Talk about " surprises and big changes " today with Uranus shifting sign in standard astrology:

I decided to make peace and say sorry with a aggressive and weird guy and we discovered we were thinking exactly the same thing and we met each other on the street.
He said he was not the bad guy I think he is and he would like to be my friend.
I was all schocked, one of the biggest schocks really in my life, so much I wasn't so much able to talk.
I thought he would have rise the hand to me. I thought he really hated me.
It was false.

And I wanted to do a thing , a bad thing and my conscience was telling me not to do that. I couldn't do such a thing, but later in the same day, I discovered one of my friend did that same thing.
So I discovered how much it hurts seeing a friend doing a certain thing.

This was really a high tension day, all surprise and schock.

I'm a Cancer born in 1988.. I guess I'm done for in August. But even disregarding this planetary alignment, cancer is a horrible sign to be born under.

Fear nothing, for there is nothing to fear. Get your spiritual house in order and swim to the center of the stream and let it carry you. God, the Prime Creator loves you and is never angry at you. Know that you are a spiritual being going through a physical experience and that all is of the Creator. Feel the love. You are never alone.

reply to post by HothSnake


Hmmmm Isn't Mars the God of war too ?

Interesting

this is a nice read .

I definately felt the effects of the todays full moon at work today, and this current Uranus transit that someone mentioned earlier doesn't help.

Let's just say that it was crazy today, and I've been on edge for a few days for no particular reason, other than I feel the stress from uranus and the moon.

And let's just say that i forgot that it was a full moon today, so it wasn't self fulfilling, but once I saw how nuts it was, I looked it up, and sure as hell the moon is full.

Of course, I've noticed this phenomena for several years, and have found it quite useful. Just like agriculturists for thousands of years have planted by the moon, and today they use the Farmer's Almenac, you can plan your monthly calendar around the phases of the moon.

Another phenomenon that never ceases to amaze me is mercury retrograde. Everytime mercury goes retrograde, I find that more people call in to work, things break down, and overall confusion reigns everytime. Never plan a trip during mercury retrograde, as you will likely get lost, your luggage will get lost, your hotel won't be booked, or you'll have an accident. I've made this mistake, and regretted the hell out of it.

That's really what got me interested in the subject.. I wanted to know why some days I felt like a nut, and others I didn't. Why some days I had a very sharp mind, and plenty of energy to spare, and others I was foggy and sluggish, why some days I was emotionally charged for no good reason, and ready to bite someones head off, and on other days i could care less. Why some days i seemed to be what they refer to "in the zone", and other days it seemed like all of the world was against me. Why some periods of my life i seemed to just have things go my way, everything came easy, and at other times quite the opposite. This drove me nuts and I wanted answers... There had to be something out there that could tell me how to read the various currents of my life, and astrology proved to be quite useful.

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Here is an interesting video where a skeptic tried to prove Vedic Astrology wrong and failed.

reply to post by LucidDreamer85


Yes, Mars was the God of War, however, a badly aspected venus retrograde is often a bad omen for war.. I think that venus was in retrograde when the Iraq War started, and Mars was in a very close transit to the earth at the time. One of the closest in many years, if I remember correctly.

reply to post by LeoVirgo

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
My assumption is people are referring to the triple conjunction over the next 8 months of Uranus and Jupiter.

I guess I get somewhat confused over the terms used. I assume astronomical terms are synonymous with astrology but, like you have said, I also give room for this as I try to understand the point being made.

When I looked for an alignment on August 1st of this year I didn't find any but there are some that happen later. I took a closer look at these alignments using an astronomical program called Celestia and this is what I found.

Oppositions with both Jupiter and Uranus on around September 21st (near Autumnal equinox). Opposition is the term used to describe close approaches with planets outside the orbit of Earth (i.e. Mars, Jupiter, Saturn...etc.). Conjunction is when one of these planets aligns on the far side of the Sun and this happens with Saturn around October 1st of this same year.
Here is a great illustration of these terms. Wiki.

Conjunction has more than one meaning, with Saturn it means an alignment on the far side of the Sun with Earth. As for the planets with inferior orbits, Venus and Mercury, conjunction has two meanings. Inferior conjunction means a close approach to Earth and a superior conjunction is on the far side of the Sun.

I have been watching Venus closely for several years now and there will be a close approach (inferior conjunction) on October 26th @00:40 hours UTC. This will be the last close approach with Venus until 2012 when a very rare transit of the Sun occurs on June 5th at 22:09 ending on June 6th 04:50 UTC.

I guess from an astronomy standpoint the OP's claim for an interesting alignment of the planets in 2010 is correct but it is off by several weeks. I blame this "discrepancy" on the followers of "Tropical Astrology" and I do believe that this needs to be corrected. In my opinion astrology and astronomy go hand in hand with precision and predictability being the key.

Now I do give credit to alignments of the cosmos....because I like the electric universe theory...how everything is connected with some sort of energy thread.

I agree with you here, I am also interested in the Electric Universe theory. My study of comets and the planet Venus have lead my down this path (EUT) and it seems to all tie in with many ancient myths. Of coarse this is my imagination at work but none-the-less I see connections.


reply to post by LeoVirgo

WOW, I read this post and now I am really confused. I am impressed at the work you did but as to what it means...I don't know either.

reply to post by HothSnake

You have used the term "retrograde motion" to describe the apparent backward movement of an observed planet. I understand what this means and also that this is where we have derived the word planet from, i.e. "Wandering Star".

I have a question pertaining to the length of time for this retrograde motion on both Venus and Mercury. The synodic periods for Venus is around 584 days and Mercury is almost 116 days but I don't know what the length of their apparent retrograde motions are.

I don't buy into astrology at all. Gravity does not affect emotions any more than flying on an airplane or going to the moon on a spacecraft.

This was also the famous retort by imminent skeptic Carl Sagan, and I think that he would be correct if that were all that was going on here. He used to say that the doctor in the room when a child was born would have more gravitational pull on the child than the moon, Jupiter, or any other planet for that matter. This logic, of course, is based on a very limited understanding of the world around us. In its arrogance, this argument presupposes that we already know all there is to know about the universe we live in. Obviously, there is much that scientists can't even begin to explain, and there are still far more questions than answers.

Someone else mentioned that there is an energy that permeates the universe and connects everything in it, just like the Hermetic doctrine, "As above, so below." I think that there is definately some truth to this statement. Afterall, an atom is very similar in structure to a solar system... Certainly, the further you go into the microcosmic level, the more it resembles the most infinite world or macrocosmos.

Everything seems governed by a single mathematical formula (theory of everything) and I think that this formula is in the form of a fractal. If you are unfamiliar with fractals, I suggest that you look up the Mandelbrot set, and study Fibbonacci numbers. These repeating patterns, numbers, and energies are found throughout nature and the cosmos... "As above, so below."

I think that the answer to many of your questions as to how the heavenly bodies can have influence on us and the world we live in, other than the still not understood laws of gravity, can be found in what Richard C. Hoagland termed, "Hyperdiminsional Astrology." I suggest that you look into Hyperdiminsional physics.

Anyhow, much like the ancient belief in the Harmony of the Spheres, distant spinning spheres (planets) at certain aspects in relation to each other can release hyperdiminsional forces, much like the odd forces, which appear to be hyperdiminsional, that exist at 19.5 degrees above and below the equator of a spinning sphere, such as the earth (most of the volcanic activity on earth is at 19.5 degrees above or below the equator, the largest volcano in the solar system is at 19.5 degrees on Mars, and the great eye of Jupiter is also at 19.5 degrees.)

And I would agree with you LeoVirgo, I think that the aspects are most important and not the signs, but I think that there is a correlation between those born at a certain time of the year, that they seem to share similar characteristics, and when they don't you can always look up their chart and be able to predict why.

I have found traditional astrology to be quite useful, and those that take the time to learn it seem to have found the ability to make very accurate predictions, such as Arch Crawford, whose track record is right there in his published news letters and the myriad of individuals that follow the guy with good success. Can you explain to me why that is? Believe me when I can tell you that the big guns of the financial world use it because they have found it to work, despite your difficulties with reconciling the precession of the equinox. I've never actually taken it into account, but perhaps I should try it and see if it can be even more accurate?

reply to post by HothSnake


Ok Aries 1974...but I have had ENOUGH hardship this year (and the last 5 years) so I desperately hope you are wrong. I just dont know how much more I can deal with, already feel like I am losing my mind.
Please tell me I am on my way up not further down.

reply to post by Devino


Well it varies somewhat, but mercury retrograde usually lasts about 2 weeks, and Venus about 40 days, in astrology that is.

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reply to post by SEEWHATUDO


It is interesting that you would quote Da Vinci, also an Aries I believe. We're all in this boat together, believe it or not, so you're definately not alone.

I suggest taking time out of your busy schedule everyday to meditate on the positive energies of the universe permeating through you and from you.

I suggest this for everyone, especially during these difficult times. I don't think that it has to be all bad, but some purging is in order, and like the Pheonix, you can rise again from the ashes anew, better and stronger.

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Originally posted by Klaatumagnum
Fear nothing, for there is nothing to fear. Get your spiritual house in order and swim to the center of the stream and let it carry you. God, the Prime Creator loves you and is never angry at you. Know that you are a spiritual being going through a physical experience and that all is of the Creator. Feel the love. You are never alone.

I am listening to Megadeth "SYMPHONY OF DESTRUCTION"

"JUST LIKE THE PIED PIPER, LED RAT THROUGH THE STREETS, WE DANCE LIKE MARIONETTS, SWAYING TO THE SYMPHONY OF DESTRUCTION,"

Anyways, I will be looking for a branch...a boat, something for me and my family, lol, I am not ready to meet God yet!

Anyways good thread Hothsnake! Great warning and I believe in the survival of the fitis, so I am not swimming to the center of the stream! Nothing against faith, but right now I believe God wants people to fight, claw, scrap, its about survival!

reply to post by Devino


My use of the word conjunction....

en.wikipedia.org...

It means that, as seen from some place (usually the Earth), two celestial bodies appear near one another in the sky. The event is also sometimes known as an appulse.

Let me offer why I find it so important to observe the true placements of the cosmos from our perspective and I think people will understand the deep passion I now have for astronomy.

A few years ago (June, 2008) I was going through a much need of inner seeking. Something inside me kept wanting to seek the stars. Being a Virgo in astrology...I kept seeking out Virgo in the sky. But the tug was still there...something was telling me...keep seeking.

I looked up some planets that I knew I could find in the sky...Mars and Saturn both seemed to be something I could find. I also remember seeking out Venus..for it is so bright...but my inner need was not satisfied. I was using Earth sky and started to notice that what Earth sky told me about Saturn and Mars did not match what astrology was telling me. By using an astronomy program...I then learned that on my day of birth...the sun did not rise in Virgo but Leo. At this time...Saturn was conjuncting the heart of the Lion, Regulus. This was where the sun rose on my birth, in this direction. Saturn seemed to be an awakener for me. Through astrology, I would of never learned that Saturn was conjuncting the heart of the Lion...astrology didnt even let me know Saturn or Mars was in Leo. I was beside myself and the most amazing experiences that have ever happened to me in my life occurred a week later after this discovery. My mother had a out of this world NDE...I have it posted here at ATS. Something that stuck with me was...she said a angel hat had the face of my youngest child told her to tell me...to keep watching my stars. This angel also told her to tell me to keep watch for a time of 3 stars. Now I have no idea what 3 stars this angel was talking about....but you can sure bettcha...I use the real positions of the cosmos to this day and never have I glanced back to the old positions of astrology.

Part of her experience was her being taken below the sphinx. Her experience happened on the summer solstice of that June. It lasted 9 hours. She had OBE that entire 9 hours and relayed it all to me as I sat by her bedside. For 2 months after that it seemed I was in another time....I even though I was already 33 when I was just getting ready to turn 33 that coming August. I can only describe it as a time slip and I cant ignore the urge I had within me to seek the comsos before all of this happened.

When I learned Saturn was conjuncting the heart of the Lion...I told my mother...I think a king is going to die. This was the only time in my life I felt as if the stars could of been like a reading to me. After my mother almost passed from me a week later (my queen)....I have not dared try to read the stars. I even have a pst on another forum before her experience ever happened that I had just learned I was a Leo...and that I felt Saturn conjuncting Regulus was trying to warn me of a death coming. Later on that same forum was the first place I shared my mothers experience with others.

It gives me the shivers to think back on it all. It has very deep meaning to me to observe the true positions of the cosmos.

Just in case others want to check out what I am now so passionate about...your solar sign might not be what you think it is.

www.livescience.com...

Capricorn - Jan 20 to Feb 16
Aquarius - Feb 16 to Mar 11
Pisces - Mar 11 to Apr 18
Aries - Apr 18 to May 13
Taurus - May 13 to Jun 21
Gemini - Jun 21 to Jul 20
Cancer - Jul 20 to Aug 10
Leo - Aug 10 to Sep 16
Virgo - Sep 16 to Oct 30
Libra - Oct 30 to Nov 23
Scorpius - Nov 23 to Nov 29
Ophiuchus - Nov 29 to Dec 17
Sagittarius - Dec 17 to Jan 20

reply to post by LeoVirgo


Hmmm, even with the revised dates, I am still a cancer.

And I was born in 1984.

Dammit.

reply to post by JourPolaire


And I have sensed you dont like being a Cancer....?

What ever life has brought you has purpose for you...I know that may be hard to accept or understand. It is likely you chose this as well....in my personal discoveries...we choose what will serve us in what we are in need of.

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reply to post by LeoVirgo


I wouldn't say I'm unhappy with it, but, at times, it can be difficult living in this world with such an extreme amount of empathy inside of you.

I don't know if all cancers are like this... I've been told empathy is one of our traits?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying empathy is a bad thing... but it can (and does) take a lot out of you.