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Give us examples when difficult alignments correlated with difficult markets. Let’s start with the Great Depression.
During 1929-1932 there were several difficult planetary alignments.
What about the October 1987 crash?
On Aug. 24, planets were in the tightest five-body “conjunction,” or same ecliptic longitude, in at least 800 years. “It doesn't get any better than this,” I reasoned. Therefore, “A severe decline will follow,” I told subscribers. Turns out, Aug. 24 was the top. From that alignment high to the Oct. 20 low, the Dow fell 33%. A difficult planetary alignment preceded a difficult stock market.
What about the 2008 Crash?
Our research showed a Mars-Uranus “crash cycle” beginning Aug. 6, 2008 and ending in late-Mar. 2009. So beginning several months before Aug. 6, we repeatedly told subscribers, “Neither Wall Street nor our Government will be able to hold markets up against the 'deluge'!"
Further, on Sept. 2 we told subscribers that the worst part of the crash would occur on Oct. 10, plus or minus three trading days. We repeated this forecast on Oct. 2. Our headline was: “Market Crash – Dead Ahead.” Turns out, Oct. 10 had the largest number of new lows on the NYSE ever, at 1203.
Why did you choose Oct. 10?
There was a full moon after the market closed on Oct. 9. Also, there was a “Grand Cross” alignment at this time, with the sun opposite the moon, and squaring Uranus opposite Neptune.
So this is another example of when a difficult planetary alignment preceded a difficult stock market.
Did the planets or your technical analysis forecast the rebound in stocks which began March 9, 2009?
Our March 2 headline was: "Best Bet - Nearby Low!"
Then on March 12 we told subscribers: "We believe this rally confirms a strong buy.”
Does energy from difficult alignments reveal itself in ways that go beyond financial markets?
In April 1986 we had a Lunar Eclipse conjunct Pluto. The close proximity with Pluto is rare. So we told subscribers, "If you don't feel this one, you're not alive!" We were prophetic, as the April 26th Chernobyl accident raised radiation levels worldwide.
By the way, we have another Lunar Eclipse conjunct with Plato on June 26. Pluto “rules” nuclear power, debt, interest rates, and the use of force, say the astrologers. Maybe June 26 is the de facto start of the Cardinal Climax.
In November 1989, we observed a Saturn conjunct with Neptune, both opposite Jupiter to the day. This alignment happens every hundreds of years; i.e., it is extremely rare. Several days later the Berlin Wall fell.
In our July 1990 we told subscribers, “This will be one of the worst days of the century. There will be coercion, the use of force, a large explosion and heartlessness or cruelty August 2-7." On Aug. 2, Saddam Hussein unexpectedly attacked Kuwait. What alarmed me was the Lunar Eclipse forming another Grand Cross, this time with Mars opposite Pluto.
What about September 11, 2001?
In our letter mailed Sept. 4 we wrote that when Mars hits the solar eclipse point on Sep. 7th or Sep. 8th, then the U.S. will be at war.
Do the planets ever fool you?
We are still in the 'covered wagon days' of this as a science. Much of the time is without major significance. Also, the “big alignments” can be tricky to interpret. But some alignments—this summer’s Cardinal Climax, for instance—are unambiguous.source
Let’s talk about the Cardinal Climax.
On August 1, give or take a week, we’ll have the most five-planet alignments in perhaps thousands of years. Known as the “Cardinal Climax,” this is the meanest, nastiest, most challenging and most transformational of any planetary phenomena in all of written history!
What do you see?
This is the view of the planets from New York City on Aug. 1, at 6am. We have the most planets in the tightest alignments and at the supposedly 'sensitive' Zero degrees of Cardinal signs. It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
I looked at records going back to the 1800’s, and this is the most difficult alignment I found. When I was at a conference in Boston last month, someone said this was the most difficult alignment they have seen in the last "1,000 years." Another person told me this is the worst alignment in "10,000 years."
What are possible consequences?
Worst cases include a nuclear accident. Nuclear war. Massive societal collapse. Maybe a pole flip, which can wipe out nearly everything.
Cardinal Climax is especially intimidating because of the proximity to the widely touted Mayan Calendar End Date. Plus, the Christians are looking for the Return of Jesus and/or the Rapture, the Muslims await the return of the umteenth Imam, the White Buffalo has been born, and Jews are fighting over the right to rebuild Solomon's Temple on the 'temple mount' in Jerusalem. These are all signs of “end times” by many different cultures.
The one thing most convincing to me is that there are more people alive on the planet today than all who have ever lived in recorded history. So it may be that every soul is on board for this event! source
Originally posted by sweetliberty
This is very interesting to read. Sadly I fall in both catagories of sign and year.
Actually I wonder if Im not feeling some things now.
I know we all are.
Great thread OP
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by HothSnake
Hope for the best but expect the worst.
www.mothersky.com...
...There will be a series of Grand Crosses in the summer of 2010 –one of which occurs a few days after the solstice, with seven planets participating. The square between Uranus and Pluto will form the backdrop, with Jupiter coupled with Uranus in early Aries and a Moon conjunction with Pluto in Capricorn adding a late-breaking note of immediacy.
Saturn in late Virgo will form the third corner, and the Sun and Mercury, in Cancer, will form the fourth. This will give the solstice period — already considered a sacred portal for many spiritual thinkers, ancient and modern — the quality of a bulls-eye.
Two years later, the Grand Cross of June 2012 will feature the ongoing square between Uranus and Pluto now joined by the Quarter Moon; meanwhile Neptune will have entered Pisces, and will be forming an exact mutable T-square with Jupiter, reinforced by the lunar nodes.
By 2014 the two outer-planet overlords will have made their way to the
middle degrees of the cardinal signs, paralleling a square between Mars and Jupiter in Libra and Cancer respectively; with a Moon-Pluto conjunction on April 20th again providing the grace note.
Students of the Mayan calendar may recognize this timing as lining up with the dates singled out at the Harmonic Convergence in 1987 by Jose Arguelles.
The ancient Mezo-Americans numbered among many indigenous traditions that foresaw the period we are now in as the end of a great cycle in human evolution and the beginning of another.
The visionaries of prehistoric India referred to this era as the Kali Yuga: the Dark Times
As astrologers regarding these intimidating transits we walk a fine line. We must neither lapse into unrealism about their severity, nor forget that though the trends they suggest are immutable their specific manifestations are not. The spiritually informed response to the upcoming Grand Crosses will be to name, confront and transform – as a collective, and as individuals each blessed with different gifts and proclivities – the transits’ potentials at as high a level of expression as possible. This is fundamentally what is meant by the much-touted truism We create our own reality; whose corollary is that we each decided, on a soul level, to incarnate into this particular place at this particular time.