UN is Coming for your Guns

I hate to add to the "you will take them from my cold dead hands" list but its true. I own a sawed off shotgun, rifle, and a pistol and im only 15 the rest of good ol west virginia and most of the us(except the cities) wont give up there guns hell down here we will shoot you for looking at us wrong. Not to mention they will need a 18 wheeler just to carry my streets guns. So go ahead "mate" let the UN come to wv. the most hillbilly,gun loving, well armed state there is. HA the police here wont even help.

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Star for you too Miraj, good info.


To the UN having a military comment: The fact is that the UN does not have an "Army", besides any Countries that may agree to supply troops in the UN Counsel. The UN does not have it's own Army. Lets all get back to reality here.

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by v3_exceed

 

Dude stick to Canada and don't project your weakness on to us because of media propaganda. Those Videos were propaganda those people and locations were picked for that reason, media sound bytes. No one came to their aid because they were busy protecting thier own and from cops and military. Canada may bend over but Americans will fight by the millions!!! I guarantee thousands stood thier ground and told cops to pound sand when told they had to turn over thier weapons. We still have all our guns we have not given them up like Australia and we are stocking even more up for just such an occasion.

HAHAAHAH too funny, First off I have guns. Yes being Canadian I can still have guns. Secondly it wasn't mainstream media, but amateurs filming what was really happening and uploading that to you tube that I saw. Not some staged protest, but real people being screwed over by "Real Americans"

So your argument against it being mainstream media is as hollow as your bravado that you will stand and fight. All the stocking up your doing will only mean more for the guys at the door to have to carry when they leave with your guns.

So you can call me out all you want, but the reality is when the knock at the door comes there goes your guns. Maybe..in history, some 200 years ago your great great great grandfathers would stand and fight, but that was then, and this is now.

And for the record, Canada has already invaded your country and burned your capitol to the ground, so I wouldn't be dissing Canada.

..Ex

Originally posted by chaseninja
I hate to add to the "you will take them from my cold dead hands" list but its true. I own a sawed off shotgun, rifle, and a pistol and im only 15 the rest of good ol west virginia and most of the us(except the cities) wont give up there guns hell down here we will shoot you for looking at us wrong. Not to mention they will need a 18 wheeler just to carry my streets guns. So go ahead "mate" let the UN come to wv. the most hillbilly,gun loving, well armed state there is. HA the police here wont even help.

Star for you bud, I wouldn't mess with a good ole boy from West Virginia!

In the end, it will all boil down to how bad "they' want to take your guns, versus how bad you want to keep them.

I believe the belief in the constitutional rights has been around for so long, it is ingrained in the psyche of gun owners. Just because globalists some where sign a treaty that says they can take your guns if they desire, doesn't mean that 100 million gun owners are going to lay down their weapons and turn them in. it just isn't going to happen.

Besides , with the internet as an information link, instant access to what's happining in the rest of the world will enable gun owners to know it's time to get serious about your gun rights.

I could see some people turning in their guns, but the idea of millions of serious gun rights people giving up their soverign right to gun ownership, just because some foreign treaty says they have to, just isn't going to happen. The US is unlike any other country in the world.

One last thing. Right now, as evidenced by gun sales, people know what's coming. They are getting even more ready than they might have done. And, people are mad at the government. Again, it will all boil down to how bad the government wants to get these guns, but the logistics of the whole affair seems imposible from a practical point of view.

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haha i know. the sad thing is im one of the most civilized people in wv. Go to anyone of my nieghbors houses you wont even make it to the doorstep. My family will atleast give you time to ask before we bust a cap in your face

The UN doesnt have an Army, because it doesnt need one ... par se. Any enforcement by the UN on US soil will be by US troops.

If a gun ban comes into force in the US, YOU will give up your guns or you will be a criminal. You may not give them up at first, but given time you will. The constitution would be changed, so owning banned firearms would be a criminal offence.

All this ''from my cold dead hands'' is mostly just bravado from internet armchair warriors.

Originally posted by itguysrule
reply to post by v3_exceed

 

Apparently some of you Canadians and Australians would rather "lube up" than fight for what you believe in. I guess that is one way to live your life. I can't speak to what happened in New Orleans because I wasn't there and I don't trust the media to tell anything remotely like the truth.

It wasn't media, it was you tube. Amateurs uploading their own footage. So no mainstream footage. That was "Americans" taking guns from "Americans" by the way.

Originally posted by itguysrule
I will say this - I may be only one man but I WILL shoot at whoever tries to take my guns. I don't care if they are my neighbors or fellow citizens they will have become my enemy. Believe what I say or laugh me off as a crazy. It doesn't matter what you think.

Actually it does matter what I think, since you are commenting on my post.
Canada has already gone the route of confiscating guns, the central registry has already cost over a billion dollars and it doesn't work. They are currently in the process of repealing the long gun registry so most new shotgun and long gun purchases will be off the books. In short, we are not "lubing up". As an American, you can look back on the Branch Dividian situation (Waco Texas) to remind us what happens when you stand up to the ATF.

..Ex

Originally posted by v3_exceed

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by v3_exceed

 

Dude stick to Canada and don't project your weakness on to us because of media propaganda. Those Videos were propaganda those people and locations were picked for that reason, media sound bytes. No one came to their aid because they were busy protecting thier own and from cops and military. Canada may bend over but Americans will fight by the millions!!! I guarantee thousands stood thier ground and told cops to pound sand when told they had to turn over thier weapons. We still have all our guns we have not given them up like Australia and we are stocking even more up for just such an occasion.

HAHAAHAH too funny, First off I have guns. Yes being Canadian I can still have guns. Secondly it wasn't mainstream media, but amateurs filming what was really happening and uploading that to you tube that I saw. Not some staged protest, but real people being screwed over by "Real Americans"


Yeah because it's so hard for the propagandist to post thier propaganda to youtube...Sigh! But you go on beleiving that...

So your argument against it being mainstream media is as hollow as your bravado that you will stand and fight. All the stocking up your doing will only mean more for the guys at the door to have to carry when they leave with your guns.

Dude I hope your no representative of the level of intelligence of most Canadians. I am not waiting for a knock on the door like some dumbasses might envision expect. You have no idea. Preparedness is key for many

So you can call me out all you want, but the reality is when the knock at the door comes there goes your guns. Maybe..in history, some 200 years ago your great great great grandfathers would stand and fight, but that was then, and this is now.

See above for the knock on the door non-sense. As for then and now the same blood runs in my veins as did my ancestor who signed the Declaration of Independence

And for the record, Canada has already invaded your country and burned your capitol to the ground, so I wouldn't be dissing Canada.

..Ex

Oh boy revisionist history at it best. You mean Canada was a staging area for The British in 1812 because they were to much of a bunch of wusses to kick the British to the curb like we did which is why you are still a British commonwealth. So stay lubed up there and keep talking sh**

I'm not sure why this has turned into a US , Aus, Can , GB bash thread.

Any and None of those countries will try to Dis-Arm anyone. If , as the OP

is suggesting , it will come to pass as a Global Effort from the UN.

It will be from Corporations and Big Business, George Soros is in on it for

Cripes sakes. There's no need to talk of shooting people , for these are not the

people threatening the proposals.

Direct your anger, disgust towards the real enemy , not each other.

This idea of seizing weapons has way too many logistical problems to be carried out successfully in the US. yes, the powers that be could come in , and bomb a neighborhood to the ground, and them come and get weapons from all the dead. But, once this technique had ben used, gun owners would dissapear. I can't imagine gun owners just hanging around their house, waiting for a superior force to overrun them, and then take their weapons. I think people would resort to using gorilla tactics , just like they did in the revolutionary war against the British.
Look at what happens in the middle east, when American soldiers are trying to occupy a village. They are sniped at, bombed, and fought in many different ways. No matter what they do, there is always someone to take up the fight against them.

The same will happen here. No matter how many foreign troops the UN puts on our soil, there will always be people around that will try to kill them. They can bomb towns back to the stoneage, but when the bombing stops, and the foreign troops come out to take weapons, they'll be shot at, and IUD'd, and evry other manner of attack. So, can the UN people accomplish seizure of weapons?? Maybe, but at what price? Seems way too many problems to be realistically accomplished by an opposing force.

LMAO! This is never going to happen! I wonder if the people that push this stuff aren't actually gun manufacturers, cause no one is "comin' fer yer gunz."



Please people, don't let the misinformation train run you over so much.

Originally posted by v3_exceed

Originally posted by hawkiye
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HAHAAHAH too funny, First off I have guns. Yes being Canadian I can still have guns. Secondly it wasn't mainstream media, but amateurs filming what was really happening and uploading that to you tube that I saw. Not some staged protest, but real people being screwed over by "Real Americans"

So your argument against it being mainstream media is as hollow as your bravado that you will stand and fight. All the stocking up your doing will only mean more for the guys at the door to have to carry when they leave with your guns.

So you can call me out all you want, but the reality is when the knock at the door comes there goes your guns. Maybe..in history, some 200 years ago your great great great grandfathers would stand and fight, but that was then, and this is now.

And for the record, Canada has already invaded your country and burned your capitol to the ground, so I wouldn't be dissing Canada.

..Ex

Uh, right. And either what kind of excessive permits and fees did you have to go through to get those guns, or what silly American believed you were just moving from British Columbia and needed to use your Canadian ID to make the sale? (Alot of Canadians will say they are moving and haven't gotten their new American State License yet, so could they just use their Canadian one!? They do this to buy guns from Americans and take them back to Canada.)

And for the record, try it now, we would stomp you.

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You do not need to 'take your guns' by an invading force. YOUR own countrymen will take them by the ''force of law''.

To own certain banned firearms will be a criminal offence and will have a penalty for owning such after an initial period of an amnesty for handing them in. If you do not hand them in, then you will be a criminal ....... try getting a job or a mortgage then!

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by v3_exceed

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by v3_exceed

 

HAHAAHAH too funny, First off I have guns. Yes being Canadian I can still have guns. Secondly it wasn't mainstream media, but amateurs filming what was really happening and uploading that to you tube that I saw. Not some staged protest, but real people being screwed over by "Real Americans"

Yeah because it's so hard for the propagandist to post thier propaganda to youtube...Sigh! But you go on beleiving that...

Your spelling is as faulty as your logic. Everything that doesn't agree with you, is not propaganda. If what I saw was propaganda..it would have been for your side.

Originally posted by hawkiye
Dude I hope your no representative of the level of intelligence of most Canadians. I am not waiting for a knock on the door like some dumbasses might envision expect. You have no idea. Preparedness is key for many

How you can claim preparedness for an event that can only be considered speculative at this point is an amazing feat. Considering the Waco Texas incident as well as the many other incidents already listed on ATS where potential "Terrorists" have been stripped of their guns for the crime of having bought 2 in a week, well..I think that kind of explains itself.

Originally posted by hawkiye
See above for the knock on the door non-sense. As for then and now the same blood runs in my veins as did my ancestor who signed the Declaration of Independence

You are obviously delusional. If you are so patriotic as you claim and your country is full of like minded people, then why is it that China owns so much of it? At what point did your ancestors decide that the CFR (Council of Foreign Relations) superseded your rights to a sovereign nation? How did you ever get into a position where you buy most of your water from MY country?

If you are planning on commenting on the intelligence of someone, I strongly suggest you proof read your own post before hand. It is always someone claiming "Non sense" before an event that will meekly follow the herd when that event comes to fruition.

..Ex

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all i need is a fishing pole and a match and i can survive

Originally posted by whatukno
LMAO! This is never going to happen! I wonder if the people that push this stuff aren't actually gun manufacturers, cause no one is "comin' fer yer gunz."

Please people, don't let the misinformation train run you over so much.

Ten Short years ago, If i told you you would need a Permit to exercise your

First Amendant rights, would you have laughed.

If you could be Detained , with no charges for a indefinite time, would you have laughed,

If you could have Enhanced Interrogation used on you , would you have laughed.

There are probably more examples, but you can see the point.

If your Gov wants it to happen , it will.

Originally posted by v3_exceed

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by v3_exceed

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by v3_exceed

 

HAHAAHAH too funny, First off I have guns. Yes being Canadian I can still have guns. Secondly it wasn't mainstream media, but amateurs filming what was really happening and uploading that to you tube that I saw. Not some staged protest, but real people being screwed over by "Real Americans"

Yeah because it's so hard for the propagandist to post thier propaganda to youtube...Sigh! But you go on beleiving that...

Your spelling is as faulty as your logic. Everything that doesn't agree with you, is not propaganda. If what I saw was propaganda..it would have been for your side.

Originally posted by hawkiye
Dude I hope your no representative of the level of intelligence of most Canadians. I am not waiting for a knock on the door like some dumbasses might envision expect. You have no idea. Preparedness is key for many

How you can claim preparedness for an event that can only be considered speculative at this point is an amazing feat. Considering the Waco Texas incident as well as the many other incidents already listed on ATS where potential "Terrorists" have been stripped of their guns for the crime of having bought 2 in a week, well..I think that kind of explains itself.

Originally posted by hawkiye
See above for the knock on the door non-sense. As for then and now the same blood runs in my veins as did my ancestor who signed the Declaration of Independence

You are obviously delusional. If you are so patriotic as you claim and your country is full of like minded people, then why is it that China owns so much of it? At what point did your ancestors decide that the CFR (Council of Foreign Relations) superseded your rights to a sovereign nation? How did you ever get into a position where you buy most of your water from MY country?

If you are planning on commenting on the intelligence of someone, I strongly suggest you proof read your own post before hand. It is always someone claiming "Non sense" before an event that will meekly follow the herd when that event comes to fruition.

..Ex

You like to bring up the Waco incident, but the fact is that they were being investigated by the ATF because they did not have the proper permits to have the weapons they were stockpiling. They had weapons and explosives that needed a tax stamp or class 3 license to be legal, but had no tax stamp. (BTW, a tax stamp and class 3 license is really nothing more than a background check and a large Federal Fee.)

The Waco incident was not supported by common Americans because they were religious extremists and were not following the law regarding their weapons. How much do you know about the Ruby Ridge incident? I don't see you quoting much from that...

BTW: good luck with Canada giving you back any rights you have lost. Governments don't do that very often.

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[edit on 14-3-2010 by treemanx]

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Let's check out your misinformation a bit here shall we?

Ten Short years ago, If i told you you would need a Permit to exercise your

First Amendant rights, would you have laughed.

All you need a permit for in most states is for a concealed carry permit. Which means that you actually gained more freedom, because before you could be in a lot of trouble for having a concealed weapon. But now, you can have that shoulder holster and a gun! YAY for gun rights!

If you could be Detained , with no charges for a indefinite time, would you have laughed.

That is a bill in congress, not a law, and it's designed for Americans overseas not Americans at home. Some people obviously don't read bills.

If you could have Enhanced Interrogation used on you , would you have laughed.

Again, that is for "illegal enemy combatants" and that practice is not being used anymore. Please don't try and fool me with this. I have been paying attention.

Originally posted by treemanx

Uh, right. And either what kind of excessive permits and fees did you have to go through to get those guns, or what silly American believed you were just moving from British Columbia and needed to use your Canadian ID to make the sale? (Alot of Canadians will say they are moving and haven't gotten their new American State License yet, so could they just use their Canadian one!? They do this to buy guns from Americans and take them back to Canada.)

And for the record, try it now, we would stomp you.

[edit on 14-3-2010 by treemanx]

I took a one day course on firearm safety +/- 300$
I filed for the license for restricted and non restricted firearms. 75$
I bought a Beretta .40 Cal - too much $$

For the record, our regular forces are some of the best trained in the world. They compare to most countries elite or special forces. Ask any ex military or current military personnel what they think of Canada's forces.

In addition, there is zero...ZERO chance the USA will ever attack Canada as there is ZERO chance Russia will. So you will be stomping no one, not even the guy who will come for your guns. Like I said, I wish it were different, but you will turn over your guns.

..Ex