CNN: Conspiracy Theorists Are Potential "Suicide Warriors" & Are Mentally Disturbed

Originally posted by Ouroborus2012
We can sit here and yuck it up over how full of crap this guy and the mainstream media actually is until our heads turn blue.. The problem is, people actually WATCH that garbage and nod their heads in agreement over every single thing he says and basically everything that comes from that tube that their faces are always planted in.

Don't underestimate the power of mass manipulation using direct psychological tools. Remember we didn't get this way over night. Its constant conditioning over the course of years, even decades.

However, I'm curious to see what will happen when the American people will be considered the new Al Qaeda. This will most likely be the next step. Remember the seed of this action was John Walker Lynn, the supposed "American Taliban".

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Yup, I totally agree recouper.... And that's definitely a good thing. Unfortunately, there is still a portion that have not and probably will never cross over in to the real world! They are satisfied with the status quo. They have their "american freedom" and their goodies and gadgets and get all the juicy info about brad and angelina and laugh at how "bad off" the rest of the world is... It's sickening really that we are denied so many truths and people have to live in an imaginary world that is given to them.

Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl12

Originally posted by Ouroborus2012
We can sit here and yuck it up over how full of crap this guy and the mainstream media actually is until our heads turn blue.. The problem is, people actually WATCH that garbage and nod their heads in agreement over every single thing he says and basically everything that comes from that tube that their faces are always planted in.

Don't underestimate the power of mass manipulation using direct psychological tools. Remember we didn't get this way over night. Its constant conditioning over the course of years, even decades.

However, I'm curious to see what will happen when the American people will be considered the new Al Qaeda. This will most likely be the next step. Remember the seed of this action was John Walker Lynn, the supposed "American Taliban".

You're absolutely right.. There's an awesome article about mass manipulation/mind control written by a guy name Dick Sutphen. He touches on everything from TV to preachers and how the tricks they use to manipulate brain wave patterns. It all makes perfect sense really and you're right, it's been happening to us for YEARS.

I see little things happening more and more every day in relation to the John Walker Lynn guy. You had the guy who crashed his little plane in to that fed building that magically blew up half the building while finding out that the guy had ties to the gov't. Hm, something fishy there for sure! Now you have this pentagon shooter guy who gets mainstream media time and they magically have his entire life story within 2 hours. I mean, it's all obviously used to garner support for war effort and keep the american mind tuned to the frequency of control. Consequently, it can be used to get support for votes on new bills etc. etc.. Scary world once you unplug yourself from the matrix!!! I just sit back and enjoy the show!

By the way, awesome screen name you have. You do much research in to Sumerian texts? I live for them!!

Another guy who think its unpatriotic to discuss the truth about 9/11...

Where do these guys come from? Do they have any idea how stupid they look?

This is getting beyond crazy. CNN and MSNBC are attacking everybody that questions their version of reality. On a recent trip to Barnes and Noble I noticed seven or eight "debunking" books on a table labeled "Must Read Non Fiction." Then yesterday morning I turned on the History channel. At the end of a documentary on the KKK they had a guy from the SPLC saying that the KKK transformed in to the patriot movement. He suggested that all members of the "patriot" movement are really covert Klansmen. The documentary also suggested that all "militias" spring from a racist fear and not a sense of patriotic duty.

So, if you claim you are part of the "patriot" movement because you question the government, or you band together with your friends to protect your neighborhood during a crisis, you are a racist. Plus you get the added bonus of being labeled a mentally unstable terrorist.

Didn't we see this coming though? I mean come on. The administration released a report claiming that anybody with a right wing political view, or returning from Iraq, should be considered a possible terrorist.

The Actual DHS Document

The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of
military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.

Prominent antigovernment conspiracy theorists have incorporated aspects of an impending economic collapse to intensify fear and paranoia among like-minded individuals and to attract recruits during times of economic uncertainty. Conspiracy theories involving declarations of martial law, impending civil strife or racial conflict, suspension of the U.S. Constitution, and the creation of citizen detention camps often incorporate aspects of a failed economy. Antigovernment conspiracy theories and “end times” prophecies could motivate extremist individuals and groups to stockpile food, ammunition, and weapons. These teachings also have been linked with the radicalization of domestic extremist individuals and groups in the past...

Fear of Communist regimes and related conspiracy theories
characterizing the U.S. Government’s role as either complicit in a foreign
invasion or acquiescing as part of a “One World Government” plan inspired
extremist members of the militia movement to target government and military facilities in past years.

The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

The report tells us conspiracy theorist have been a target for some time now. What I love about the report is that it does not list any sources. It is just a long list of asertions with out even basic foot notes or a bibliography.

Originally posted by Misoir

I will wait for the government and media to launch a campaign that will encourage people to turn their friends and family in for being conspiracy theorists because they are a potential threat to society. Then we might see ads from big pharma touting drugs that may help people with conspiracy theories.

Ya I can see this comming down the road.

This is likely how it will start.

Round up the crazies with guns.

Sounds like this particular individual may've had a spiritual awakening (I believe bi-polar could be just that in many cases). He sounds like just a regular guy who found out too much, too quick, and didn't know who to turn to for help. So he then made the worst decision possible to try and remedy the situation.

If the Government didn't lie in the first place about 9/11 and JFK (two conspiracies I believe he was aware of) then the conditions would not be there in the first place for this kind of behaviour to progress. I really don't care if that sounds uncomfortable or controversial. If the Government didn't lie in the first place, this guy, more than likely, would not have carried out this particular shooting. The conditions wouldn't've been there.

There are always conditions responsible that lead to aberrant or deviant behaviour.

PS: Of course that doesn't justify his actions. With free will he should've turned away from this one and taken a positive direction. However, the conditions are there because the JFK and 9/11 conspiracies are real.



[edit on 7-3-2010 by IrnBruFiend]

Originally posted by m khan
They're just trying you scare you into line. Anyone who is critical of the govt is a dangerous terrorist. If you have been speaking your mind you will now feel intimidated and shut up. They haven't started landing black helicopters on people's lawns yet but it could happen. The problem is that they are so full of themselves that they have left reality far far behind them which means anything could happen. Our government is so far out there that anything is possible.

You have to realize that they won't give up the fractional banking system willingly. Reverting to a contitutional government that prints it's own money is certain death for these people.

They will push for the Federal Reserve changing over to an IMF/World Bank before they go for a government by the people for the people.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
So let's listen to what this suicide warrior has to say and judge for ourselves if he is a nut.

[edit on 7-3-2010 by In nothing we trust]

This very likely could be an MK Ultra Manchurian Candidate.

The tone of his voice is a little odd.

I too am thinking there is some kind of MK Ultra mind control going on with this individual as well.

CNN have been on here looking around at ATS, someone I know checked what servers are logged on here and snooping around.

Thats all I am saying.

Originally posted by Romanian

... whoever would DARE to doubt the culture of worshipping Ceausescu (the communist dictator for about 25 years) would be labelled as mentally disturbed or enemy of the nation. ...

... we had so called "re-education camps" ...

Communism is comming to America people.

And the media and the established rich are pushing it forward.

For most human beings, there is nothing wrong with you! You are usually reacting in a sane way to a deranged human landscape: its the landscape that should be corrected and that can be corrected, not you. If someone went to war in Afghanistan, saw terrible unspeakable things and reacted to them in 'post-traumatic-stress-disorder' there is nothing wrong with him. Psychological help is a bandaid that effectively hushes up a much bigger problem: why send the man to a war unrelated directly to the defence of his country in the first place? Additional to this is the social problem, for any psychological problem you name, it is much more likely to happen given a lack of social support and meaning in life: in no small part due to materialism, superficiality of modern existence, a lack of cohesive communities caring personally for each other and dysfunctional families divorcing and collapsing.

Originally posted by concernedcitizan

... why send the man to a war unrelated directly to the defence of his country in the first place?

And then not report what is happening in said war or investigating why we are really there.

... in no small part due to materialism, superficiality of modern existence, a lack of cohesive communities caring personally for each other and dysfunctional families divorcing and collapsing.

What do you mean?

Aren't we in Iraq and Afghanistan to find the perpetrators of 9/11
- fight terrorists
- topple dictators
- Search for WMD's
- establish democracy
- invade Iran
- keep our finger on the worlds oil supply
- keep the oil backed federal resrve dollar from collapsing
- searching for the garden of edan
- bringing about the anti-christ and armageddon
- entrenching the NWO and bringing about world wide socialism
- making sure that women can continue to go shopping in air conditioned malls and that thier husbands can continue to get laid
- breaking the military indistrial complex
- training our troops to revolt against the government
- training our troops to defend the government against those who would revolt against the government
- destroying christianity
- spreading christianity
- breaking the will of the American people
- destroying patriotism to a single country and instead spreading the ideal to encompass the entire world
- making sure that the economy wouldn't go into a depression by giving the unemployed something to do?

Now it's all because society is failing and the family unit is disintigrating?


[edit on 8-3-2010 by In nothing we trust]

The more I think about this and many of the comments posted, the more irritated I get. The irony absolutely drives me nuts.

CNN, MSNBC, FOX and mainstream media in general have failed in their jobs and their patriotic duty to source the truth and uncover the facts. Instead they parrot the talking points of corporations and governments.

The internet community has stepped in to fill the void and Big Media, Big Gov and Big Corp are all running scared. They are divining the future and see their own obsolescence. So they call us aggitators, conspriacy theorists, crazy and/or dangerous to marginalize and divide us.

Whatever.

We are only dangerous to them and other corrupt institutions.

I will not stop questioning authority just because someone calls me names. I'll just question louder because I must be onto something...

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If a country remains detached from the struggles and cruelties of the war it is engaged in, it can never understand the enterprise. The country can be led astray, it can accept the morphine of not caring and find itself in a worse pickle than the one in which it started. I agree with the current sentiment voiced by others that our military is at war but our country is not. There is no general sense of sacrifice and there appears to be little interest in individual discovery of the facts of life in countries where the root causes of conflict have to do with centuries of religious and political machinations.

We, a western society, have little understanding, I mean deep, in the belly understanding of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are detached physically, emotionally, and culturally. We have put our soldiers in harm's way while we carry on our usual lives. That detachment, that lack of fundamental interest is frustrating to the soldier but a salve to the politicians who sent him (or her).

Does this sort of thing cross over to other areas of life? Yes, I believe so. We sometimes decide to deal with a problem by simply ignoring it. If we don't acknowledge it maybe it will go away. Every political, philosophical, or religious position is like a coin with two sides. For every yin there's a yang--that sort of thing. Zealots, political, religious, or otherwise, simply ignore the other side of the coin. They don't consider the alternative view, don't think it even worthy of discussion. This allows them a certainty the thoughtful envy but know they cannot share.

I am glad to see everyone here come together non-violently to stand up for what we believe in.

Being able to think and find the truth for yourself does not make you "mentally disturbed," a "terrorist," or a "suicide warrior." If the government didn't give us reasons to distrust them, we wouldn't be on here talking about it.

Seriously, try to stereotype all of us more. I think CNN just committed a few "hate crimes."

Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.

"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts which are seen to have been motivated by hatred of one or more of the listed conditions. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).

en.wikipedia.org...

We are a social group that is being bullied and harassed with stereotypical verbal abuse and insults against our class and political affiliation. Shame on them!

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This sounds to me like the first real shot at "policeing the internet"(read censor). The fact that the "President" now has the power to limit access to the internet during times of "civil unrest" is somewhat scarey. And WE are the wingnuts???

As sad as it is, no matter what, the truth about 9/11 will never be known. People will not accept the truth, and there is no evidence left to find. It is all gone. There is no one left to point the fingers. Anyone who thinks 9/11 is a lie, is labelled a crazy person and automatically rejected. Its a minority group vs, the rest of the country and the government. Truthers can never win this battle. It's sad but true. The 9/11 truth is so obvious to those who look, but they requires one to actually look, which all the sheeple american citizen don't care about. They will say it wasn't a lie before even bothering to look. It's really embarassing that americans can be so dumb.

well i dont want to be labled as a crazie, how interesting is it that people like that beleive all conspiracy theories to be wrong and just conspiracies themselves. How is it not even possible for them to beleive that something is not right. So now this guys is labeled as a nut, i cant say either way against because i do not know him, but intead of just beleiving one way why couldnt be looked at from another, this "crazy guy" was one of the few with the balls to get up and do something about some wrong doings, and the best chance the "government has at the moment is to label him as a crazy. I do not beleive the powers in charge will have much power very longer

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That's so genius I just made it my siggy. Eviscerate them with logic. I love it.

Oh wait..does that make me dangerous?