Is ATS Luciferian ? * Please note the question mark !

Originally posted by Getsmart

Originally posted by Count Chocula
Oh my, this thread might rank up there with the one tying poor Santa to the devil via SATAN CLAWS.

Anyways its mostly shades of gray on my screen, and you do have that little option to go light.

Hi Count Chocula,


Thanks for pitching in. I didn't know that we had a color option - my bad. By the way, it isn't my theory, I quoted the source. Maybe there's something to it ? I didn't see the Santa / Satan thread but there seems to be some evidence to that, although it is OFF TOPIC and not for our speculation Here.

Are you joking? You are now saying there "seems to be some evidence" that Santa Claus is Satanic? Give me a break.

Ok I get it. ATS is Satanic because it uses a mostly GRAY background, and Santa Clause = Satan Claws because they sound the same, who knew such nefarious conspiracies could be so easily solved. Glad you cleared up any doubt where you are coming from.

By the way, don't tell me what is "OFFTOPIC" or not for my speculation "HERE." Thats for the mods to decide, not you.

A lot of priests and clergy wear black,and judges and choirs sometimes choose to cloth themselves in black - maybe there is something to it.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Have you even bothered to read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike? I bet not.

Hi Speaker of Truth, and welcome to the thread. I said I didn't want to offend anyone here, and I am quite convinced that those below the 33rd degree of Freemasonry are not tributary to such a cult. Having been raised in a context beyond that threshold I had the unfortunate experience of finding out what it meant in concrete terms. I hope you can accept my sincerity, and note that this did not predispose me to follow suit.


Given your Alias here, it stands to reason that you wish to speak the truth, and therefore will not need me to quote the direct references to Lucifer given by Pike in his master work. If you have read them you will note that it would serve no purpose. Yet assuredly the vast vast majority of Masons are not directly exposed to said cult and it appears that even above the 33rd degree not everyone is on board.


So I take back the affirmation that Lucifer is the Masonic God. Let us just say that certain Luciferians may have made, at a given time, an incursion into Freemasonry - - using its convenient secret society organisation to pursue parallel endeavors. A member here at ATS testified that within his own lodge certain days ceremonies of a "magickal" nature were held, but only with the attendance of a partial select participation roster from among their brother Masons.

Originally posted by Getsmart
If Lucifer is the Light Bearer, the Luciferian will want to take in his light. Black is NOT A COLOR but is a NON COLOR, it is produced by the total absorption of light. This is why Black Holes are called that, and why they took so long to detect, because in absorbing light they were invisible. They are today detected by measuring the speed of their surrounding stars which they bring into rapid rotation while absorbing them along with their light.


Thus the privileged color for a Luciferian worshiper of light would be the one which absorbs the most light and thus captures its substance or photon energy to then empower their Black Magick.

An impressive bit of convoluted reasoning there. Would you be willing to back that up with some sources? If you're right, that means there's a Lucifer in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy and CERN is trying to make a Lucigollum.

Or did you just make that up on the fly?

Originally posted by Getsmart
The former were noted in the memoirs of a former German Chancellor, and the latter was disclosed by investigative journalist Alex Jones.

That even questions if Alex Jones is a Wiccan.

That is a fall for him.

If you can nonetheless further divulge, even through ambiguous means, it would be much appreciated.

Maybe the word abysmal is in the dictionary.

Originally posted by Count Chocula
Oh my, this thread might rank up there with the one tying poor Santa to the devil via SATAN CLAWS.

Anyways its mostly shades of gray on my screen, and you do have that little option to go light.

Are you joking? You are now saying there "seems to be some evidence" that Santa Claus is Satanic? Give me a break.

Ok I get it. ATS is Satanic because it uses a mostly GRAY background, and Santa Clause = Satan Claws because they sound the same, who knew such nefarious conspiracies could be so easily solved. Glad you cleared up any doubt where you are coming from.

By the way, don't tell me what is "OFFTOPIC" or not for my speculation "HERE." Thats for the mods to decide, not you.

Hi Count Chocula,


First let me clear up a misunderstanding. I was finding myself wandering off topic from our concern with what a Black website might mean to people who grant a special symbolic significance to that color. It was quite different from Santa Claus (pagan winter solstice celebration merged into neo-Christian tradition as leading biblical experts situate Christ's birth in the summer) and I couldn't find a logical connection with our thread so I thought it would be worthwhile to pursue, but in that thread which I have yet to visit. It was NOT meant as an admonishment. Please speak as much as you wish about whatever you like which would be of interest to you or others present.

Originally posted by There Once Was Man

Originally posted by Getsmart
Thus the privileged color for a Luciferian worshiper of light would be the one which absorbs the most light and thus captures its substance or photon energy to then empower their Black Magick.

An impressive bit of convoluted reasoning there. Would you be willing to back that up with some sources? If you're right, that means there's a Lucifer in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy and CERN is trying to make a Lucigollum.

Or did you just make that up on the fly?

Hi There Once Was Man,

Actually I did just make that up on the fly. It was a proposed counterargument to another poster's comment. I don't proclaim this as truth, only as a possibility. If there is something to it, then you are quite correct to be concerned with goings on at the CERN. That hadn't dawned on me, but maybe those who say they're up to no good are onto something ? Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Originally posted by hadriana
A lot of priests and clergy wear black,and judges and choirs sometimes choose to cloth themselves in black - maybe there is something to it.

Hi Hadriana,


Thanks for joining the discussion and bringing up the annexe issue of the choice of color for official garb. While there may be something to your insight, I honestly prefer not to contemplate it at present because it would be very disturbing to imagine such a degree of institutional embedding of Evil motives leading to the choice of a given uniform. Especially since those you mention are members of society to whom we entrust our souls or our lives.

Originally posted by dzonatas
What goes around comes around, so don't make S.O.L. take aim.

Hi Dzonatas,


Could you kindly offer a definition for the initials S.O.L. as without such explanation your warning falls on deaf ears. Thanks.


GS

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Whoa whoa, this guy claims a black background makes us Luciferian? I suppose all goth kids and emo kids and anyone else who's ever worn black is in league with Satan as well.

This silliness just never ceases to amaze me, thanks for posting, it was good for a laugh

And no, ATS is not Luciferian, at least not 99% of the members anyway, but I'm guessing you knew that, hence the question mark...

So if we have a green, red and gold background on are site does that make us Rastafarian?

Sorry to be sarcastic but this is just pathetic in my opinion

So, are Black Holes... devils?

Electromagnetic radiation or lack thereof has nothing to do with good or evil. Also just because something is black doesn't mean it isn't lit up like a spotlight in the infrared or ultraviolet.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
So, are Black Holes... devils?

Electromagnetic radiation or lack thereof has nothing to do with good or evil. Also just because something is black doesn't mean it isn't lit up like a spotlight in the infrared or ultraviolet.

Hi MikeboydUS,


I don't think anyone was comparing Black Holes to devils but there may have been a passing suspicion that Dark Matter might not be only dark in color by virtue of not reflecting any light and thus not being visually detectable. Please, others here, these replies are not meant to be statements of fact but merely innocent suppositions and the goal of this forum is to be speculative and exploratory.


MikeboydUS you make an important point. What is black and doesn't reflect the human visible spectrum isn't necessarily void of non visible color, color being the spectrum of light vibration which is reflected back from photons. TRUE BLACK if such term exists would then signify a gravitational absorption of all photons without any in any spectrum being reflected due to the pull. This might mean more than just light absorption, possibly a destructive force which pulls into oblivion whatever it affects. That such a force be compared to Evil is indeed a limited definition of that characteristic. We tend to routinely give Evil many different significances and symbolisms, therefore it is hard to make any sort of direct parallel.

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I love black - black is and always has been a very smart thing to wear.

I am a Jesus -lover.

Why do people believe what some idiot declares as 'fact'?

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You are accepting so much conjecture as fact it's no wonder you are getting confused by such ideas.

Originally posted by Getsmart
blah blah blah

1stly thats stupid.
2ndly even if true, i don't care.
3rdly I love how easy it is on the eyes.
4thly I hate how hard black text on white bg is on the eyes.

thats all.
-B.M



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Originally posted by TheComte
Luciferian isn't black.

It is light. It is Illuminated.

yes! and many on here definitely are NOT that!

reply to post by Getsmart


Is this guy serious?

"FACT: ALL websites with a BLACK background, have a BLACK background for a reason: The background is BLACK because the organisations in question belong to the BLACK FORCES of Lucifer that we are confronting. There is absolutely NO NEED to have a BLACK background. It sends the intended signal, and the intended signal is BLACK. "

... That's nonsense. What if I just like the color (or lack of) black? I would assume God is also "Luciferian" because the sky is black at night if that is the case. I am honestly surprised this isn't in ATS Skunk Works.

Originally posted by Nurv47
Is this guy serious?

"FACT: ALL websites with a BLACK background, have a BLACK background for a reason: The background is BLACK because the organisations in question belong to the BLACK FORCES of Lucifer that we are confronting. There is absolutely NO NEED to have a BLACK background. It sends the intended signal, and the intended signal is BLACK. "

... That's nonsense. What if I just like the color (or lack of) black? I would assume God is also "Luciferian" because the sky is black at night if that is the case. I am honestly surprised this isn't in ATS Skunk Works.

Thanks Nurv47 for your vote of confidence and bid to have this thread "taken out" of this forum. While the initial entry point posting of this topic was the association of an occult (meaning hidden or secret) religious group's interpretation and utilization of the color Black for symbolic or ritual purposes, it later develops interesting information which can pertain to a General Conspiracy to bring to power on Earth the Bearer of Light - - Lucifer. If such isn't a general conspiracy, then I wouldn't know what qualifies. As far back as the old testament we find warnings against such a conspiracy, the ancient roots of which might go as far back as the Babylonian sourced Egyptian Brotherhood of the Serpent in times of Amon worship.


In any case, whether you agree or disclaim the above, it is common knowledge that Luciferian groups have persisted in the shadows for eons and are often associated - - correctly or not - - with Evil acts. This thread only takes the opportunity to examine what such a color association might symbolize and whether this could play a role in identifying members of said General Conspiracy. Therefore it is IMHO relevant to maintain this thread in this forum section even if you find it ludicrous, politically incorrect or distasteful.


The objective here is therefore honorable and not meant to twist logic or bend the laws of reason. May I ask whether you have taken the time to examine some of the explanations or arguments presented in the above posts, or did you, legitimately as this is your right, simply responded to the original opening post without consulting later clarifications ? Thanks for your time and for posting your constructive criticism.


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The premise of this entire thread is that black is an evil color (or lack of) that signifies a bond with Satan and his followers ... and that websites with this evil color (or lack of) are followers of Satan.

I assume you can see the ridiculous nature of such a claim.

I have read all the posts in this tread thank you very much.