Is ATS Luciferian ? * Please note the question mark !

While I do not believe the website itself is Luciferian as the OP question's, that would be silly... I do feel that it is not out of the realm of possibility, that Satan could use through no fault of their own, poster's to put his agenda out into the public eye via this format, as he uses all other form's of communication and media to deceive, and detract attention from God and Jesus. this is of course my own opinion, not based on fact, but, merely my own personal faith, and subject to differing opinion's. According to the bible he has been given dominion over the earth to do as he wishes, and this would be no different than any other form of getting into the hearts and minds of those who choose to listen. All media can be influenced by satan, and the reader or listener must choose whether or not, it is what they want to hear or see. That being said, all are free to choose what they wish to believe, or not believe. Even Jesus allowed men to choose their own fate.

Originally posted by Getsmart

The source of this question is the renowned website by leading economic intelligence researcher Christopher Story who made the following statement recently:


"FACT: ALL websites with a BLACK background, have a BLACK background for a reason: The background is BLACK because the organisations in question belong to the BLACK FORCES of Lucifer that we are confronting. There is absolutely NO NEED to have a BLACK background. It sends the intended signal, and the intended signal is BLACK. "


World Reports News Tuesday 2 March 2010


If his statement stands true

It doesn't.

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Originally posted by Getsmart
If his statement stands true, would this then signify that there is a possibility that ATS is a Luciferian website ?

We could data mine the truth about such question, yet we already know the peace.

The is as constant confusion about the entire matter across websites, in films, in mainstream media, etc etc, and so far the confusion is now made worth it.

The case settled at the Pentagon, which contains the Giza remnant of the pyramid that was so-called near the great lakes of America. The description was intentionally ambiguous if the the word ambiguous can even even save on resources to describe the entire time line of stories that have the truth.

The Pentagon is a sanctuary for pagans. Note there is a major difference between pagans and neo-pagans. Wiccans are neo-pagans and they continue to disturb the peace.

Let's say it would be easier to just study the Twilight Series, it's backstory, and compare it to native pagans. There are reasons, very good reasons, why there are some indigents live on reservations with complete freedom. Anybody else that tries to tell me they, as those not on those reservations, have immunity on any level is highly questionable.

Take a good look at the "founding fathers" and notice their Indian nature in their statues.

What goes around comes around, so don't make S.O.L. take aim.

reply to post by Getsmart


Hello there Getsmart,
Hope you are well.

I must say that whoever wrote that piece on black backgrounds needs to
take a step back for a little while,attributing colours to intents of the heart
is moving into superstition territory,It is giving meaning to something that
has none.

We tend to have the mindset that the bad guy wears the black hat,that evil lurks in the dark and that things that are black have an inherent underworld
feeling attached to them,it can be a kind of conditioning but it is not always true.

Take myself for instance,my name here is BlackViolet,Thats because my favorite colour is black and my second fave is purple but i don't like the name "purple" but i do like "Violet",all my clothes are black (Don't call me Goth even tho i look that way) I have a black cat and she's lovely,I am a Blacksmith,I even once lived in a place that i painted all black inside.
My guitar is black,etc,etc,etc
And i am a Christian.

There is no evil in things,be it colours,sounds,,guns,The internet,(Insert object here),Evil is intent,the intent of a heart,it does not exist outside of this,No thing is evil,the intent of heart is evil or good but a thing in itself is
not.

Giving a thing more power than it deserves is not wise to do.

Hope all is good for you.
Regards

Violet.

reply to post by BlackViolet


Great post Violet, agreed. Also like the quote at the bottom... regarding God

Originally posted by Dock9

Hiya, Getsmart

Flagged you for initiative, humour and lots of other commendable qualities as exemplified in your OP

You don't need to apologise on your knees repeatedly, you know --- this isn't school

Hi Dock9 and thanks for joining in the tumble. Regarding my apologies you found overly effusive, here is why. My post was deleted and replaced with this notice:


Click here for more information.

Originally posted by Dock9
your bank balance won't suffer for lack of ATS points and Flags, whatever

In fact while this is true I unexpectedly received a U2U from ATS moderator elevatedone which follows.

(Your post has been removed.)

"We seek to promote discussion and debate in a civilized environment where decorum rules the day, your post does not meet such a goal. A penalty of 1,000 points has been applied to you account. Please take care in the future to better moderate your rhetoric in our discussions. Repeated observances of this type of behavior from you, may result in the termination of your account without warning or recourse."

Originally posted by Dock9
So relax

Dock9, I do not believe that such warnings are intended to relax ATS members.

Originally posted by Dock9
I'm always suspicious when half a dozen jump in from the word-go, to ridicule an OP. From experience, I find this usually signifies that an OP or post has hit a raw nerve or two

I mean, the Israeli Online Troops Manual (which has been around for years online) advocates 'derision, ridicule' as a primary tool of destruction

'Attacking the poster' is another commonly-employed method

Actually, Dock9, I didn't feel attacked by anyone until I read my U2U, it was strictly a quote of another member's signature text which I dare not refer to again as further sanctions might be incumbent.


I had never before heard of the Israeli Online Troops Manual, although in my own signature link I believe I have made more available a similarly intended, albeit admittedly older, Manuel called The Soviet Art of Brainwashing.


Thanks for pointing it out to me. When you consider that the Mossad was founded by the CIA's James Angleton before he went on to design the German BND we can consider that this manual isn't specific to Middle East Operatives but is probably in full effect back home where Obama is encouraging agencies to infiltrate forums such as these, if not sponsor or create and run them. NOTE: This is not a reference to ATS but to Obama's recent demand to actively combat Online Conspiracy Theorists. Mention made to avert above referenced "termination of your account without warning or recourse".

I have enormous respect for Christopher Story, but I think in this case he could have thought this through a little more carefully.

I actually own a couple of pairs of black shoes, does that make me the devil ?

Originally posted by BlackViolet
Hello there Getsmart,

Hope you are well.

I must say that whoever wrote that piece on black backgrounds needs to
take a step back for a little while,attributing colours to intents of the heart
is moving into superstition territory,It is giving meaning to something that
has none.

We tend to have the mindset that the bad guy wears the black hat, that evil lurks in the dark and that things that are black have an inherent underworld feeling attached to them,it can be a kind of conditioning but it is not always true. (emphasis added)

Hi Blackviolet and thanks for your friendly posting. I am not superstitious, not really accepting any such 'nonsense' - - not discounting other people's beliefs but implying that what doesn't make sense I don't care to believe. However, some events tend to defy logic.


To illustrate this, I will note that two months ago I was victim of an attack by a Man in Black... with a Black Hat. Here is the link, and by the way after intensive medical treatment by a leading toxicology institute I am now in the clear.


Man in Black Attack


However, it is not because of this that I superstitiously believe that anything black is necessarily Evil or for that matter Luciferian. Yet I've never heard of people being attacked or intimidated by Men in Green and note that for at least a part of their ceremonials the color black is used in Black Magick.


So what is being asked in this thread is not whether a color, black or otherwise, is intrinsically Evil. It is asking whether those who are dedicated to Evil have a favorite color, whether that color may happen to be Black, and whether this preference may be denoted in the background color of their websites.


Thanks for the interesting remarks and congenial friendliness which makes ATS a great place to be a part of.


GS

Originally posted by Silver Shadow


I actually own a couple of pairs of black shoes, does that make me the devil ?

If they are Prada ,then yes...

If i were you i would break out the white paint,flour egg mix or even toothpaste (gives them that minty phresh taste too) and
recolour them.

Hurry...

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
I have enormous respect for Christopher Story, but I think in this case he could have thought this through a little more carefully.

I actually own a couple of pairs of black shoes, does that make me the devil ?

Hi Silver Shadow,


This is exactly why I posted this thread. I find Mr. Story's reliability and unusually accurate analyses to be in sharp contrast to such remarks. So I thought this would be a good place to explore together what might lie beneath such allegations.


We must note that while his wording was not as careful as it might have been, given the tremendous workload he lifts much like Atlas, the intent was not to incriminate the color Black or those wearing that color. It more probably was derived from years of observations of websites related to The Powers That Be of which certain agencies might be more inclined to harbor Evil doers - - his reference was to an Alphabet Agency - - could be viscerally attracted to the color Black for symbolic motives far different than those leading to your choice of shoes or clothing.

Originally posted by BlackViolet
If i were you i would break out the white paint,flour egg mix or even toothpaste (gives them that minty phresh taste too) and
recolour them.

Oh no, that would make me a member of the white shoe brigade.

I would have to buy a yachting cap and blue blazer as well.

Originally posted by TheComte
Luciferian isn't black.

It is light. It is Illuminated.

Hi TheComte and thanks for your valid remarks. The counterargument can however be made.


If Lucifer is the Light Bearer, the Luciferian will want to take in his light. Black is NOT A COLOR but is a NON COLOR, it is produced by the total absorption of light. This is why Black Holes are called that, and why they took so long to detect, because in absorbing light they were invisible. They are today detected by measuring the speed of their surrounding stars which they bring into rapid rotation while absorbing them along with their light.


Thus the privileged color for a Luciferian worshiper of light would be the one which absorbs the most light and thus captures its substance or photon energy to then empower their Black Magick.

reply to post by Getsmart


Hello there GS,

So what is being asked in this thread is not whether a color, black or otherwise, is intrinsically Evil. It is asking whether those who are dedicated to Evil have a favorite color

Yes,I think so,I think that someone of a certain persuasion may gravitate
to certain colours but as someone said earlier that the word Luciferian
actually has it's roots in light,Luc or Lux means light in Latin,And Lucifer
in the Bible is known as The Morning star which suggests brightness,It also
says-

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

So there is the intent of evil but with a colour or a hue of radiance,a contradiction in classical terms,That is why i don't give automatically
attribute or prejudge based upon colour alone.


I think that this is a great topic,Good topic and good posts by you
well done...

P.S,I read your other post regarding the dark man and the powder,
I will be praying for you.

Violet.

Originally posted by fooffstarr
You do realize from a design standpoint, that it has been proven that white writing on a black / very dark grey background or black writing in a white background are the easiest to read.

Hi Fooffstarr,


You are quite right and I can confirm that ATS provides a high reading comfort level even if only in dark grey and not in actual black.


However, the point made is that there may be websites out there which willfully choose a black theme for much darker motives than the reading comfort of those browsing their pages. It wouldn't take anything away from your statement. However it would say additional things about a given website in certain conditions.


It is as though you said: "The CIA prefers to hire tall hit men when the target is to be shot in a public venue." This doesn't make all tall people hit men. It doesn't make all those who prefer tall people members of the CIA. It only points to the fact that for a specific purpose, namely being able to see above a crowd to take proper aim, tall hit men may be preferred by the CIA.


In our case, the case of Websites using predominantly Black backgrounds, it isn't because a website's background is Black that it is Luciferian. It isn't because people like the color black, wear black or refer to black that they are Luciferian. But MAYBE there is something to the allegation that Luciferians may prefer the color black when they run a website, just as the CIA may prefer a tall hit man when operating in a crowded venue.

Originally posted by BlackViolet
I read your other post regarding the dark man and the powder,
I will be praying for you.

Violet.

Hi BlackViolet,


Thanks for your support, presumably anthrax spore dormancy ceases after 60 days so it should no longer be active. What sensitized me to Mr Story's remarks about Luciferians was that it was after posting here about their alleged activities and having myself witnessed the more extreme type of ritual that I had that encounter, for lack of a better word. It would therefore be useful to be able to better detect who is involved when it reaches the realm of criminal acts, if only to prevent them. While I have no theological or demagogic opposition to Luciferian belief systems, I do however vehemently oppose them if they transgress human rights and commit crimes, just as I would oppose any other religion or cult. Evil is in the acts and in the intents which lead to such acts.


GS

You have got to be kidding me!!!! There really are some kooks out there!!

Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by Getsmart

 

Here is a bump because you owe me an explanation of what the heck you are about here. Your link just confused me more.
Actually I hope this gets juicy.

This will get about as juicy as a rock in the middle of the Sahara.

I don't get out much but it has transpired intoa little juice. Every thing is a little yin,

Originally posted by Getsmart


Please take no offense, I do not discriminate against people for their religious beliefs or creed and realize that many members here are Freemasons who may take exception, as Grand Master Albert Pike has made it crystal clear in his writings that Lucifer is the Masonic God.

Have you even bothered to read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike? I bet not.

[edit on 3-3-2010 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by Getsmart

 

Here is a bump because you owe me an explanation of what the heck you are about here. Your link just confused me more.
Actually I hope this gets juicy.

This will get about as juicy as a rock in the middle of the Sahara.

yeah and I bumped the thread and never received a reply from the Op
juice sucks anyway

Originally posted by dzonatas
...The case settled at the Pentagon, which contains the Giza remnant of the pyramid that was so-called near the great lakes of America. The description was intentionally ambiguous if the the word ambiguous can even even save on resources to describe the entire time line of stories that have the truth.

The Pentagon is a sanctuary for pagans. Note there is a major difference between pagans and neo-pagans. Wiccans are neo-pagans and they continue to disturb the peace...

What goes around comes around, so don't make S.O.L. take aim.

Hi Dzonatas,


Thanks for your very interesting post which raises more questions than I can answer without the cypher. Are you discretely suggesting that many at the Pentagon are Luciferian or of another conviction ? Wiccans I believe practice an ancient cult of nature found from the forests of Bavaria to those of California in Bohemian Grove. The former were noted in the memoirs of a former German Chancellor, and the latter was disclosed by investigative journalist Alex Jones.


I hadn't heard of a Pyramid near the Great Lakes of the USA nor of its transfer to the Pentagon. I expect you may have already said too much, as information of this nature calls to mind inside knowledge. If you can nonetheless further divulge, even through ambiguous means, it would be much appreciated.


GS