Coca-Cola Agrees The Winners Can't Be White.

Originally posted by ImaNutter

Originally posted by ucalien

A simple dance contest

This is perfect because I thought about trying to make this point...

This is a STEP competition. STEP has its foundation from African tribal rhythms and "dance" moves from rituals.

To compete in step, you would be competing in a competition of African rhythm and rituals.

And obviously anyone who is not white, can do this... Oh they were born in the US and dont even know what a savannah is? No drama, they're black.

It's all groovy...

Youre a ... I almost got banned then.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
I have never seen such a disgusting display of overt racism .. where is the call to condemn it? There is none. the black community has no shame.

I think I will drink Pepsi from now on.

You know what really sucks about this. I hate the taste of Pepsi. I also have a Coke Memorabilia collection that has been featured in a gallery show about collectors. I feel so torn here.

reply to post by K J Gunderson


Well that sucks, my favorite drink is Captain and Coke.. Coca Cola will have no negative feed back.. anyone standing up to say "hey, coca-cola and the entire audience is RACIST" will then be declared racist.

Then Obama will invite everyone to a "summit" for a "beer" or maybe a coke, and tell the world that yes, white people are indeed racist for calling the black racist.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

Well that sucks, my favorite drink is Captain and Coke.. Coca Cola will have no negative feed back.. anyone standing up to say "hey, coca-cola and the entire audience is RACIST" will then be declared racist.

Then Obama will invite everyone to a "summit" for a "beer" or maybe a coke, and tell the world that yes, white people are indeed racist for calling the black racist.

I used to drink vodka and Coke and I will admit that alcohol helps narrow the difference between Coke and Pepsi but I do not drink anymore so I am stuck tasting it the way it is. Sadly, I think all colas are vile aside from Coke.

I guess if Marlboro had dome something like this I would have to just be a hypocrite so I will drink my Coke and condemn Sprite all the way...that works, right?

I think everybody in this thread needs to read Shelby Steele's essay "The New Sovereignty."

In the essay Shelby Steele argues against group entitlements. He also argues against the grievance culture that serves to separate us as a culture. He also speaks about how groups like NOW and the NAACP seek out topics and "injustices" with he highest grievance potential in an attempt to maintain a power base and economic viability.

Maybe reading it will help people understand why we are being divided. It is my hope people will understand that most issues that divide us are not issues of race or gender, at their deepest levels. The ones that are issues of race and/or gender can not be solved by segregating ourselves in to black only dances, women’s studies departments, or Latino Cultural centers.

I come from North Carolina. I am proud of the sit-ins initiated at the Wool Worth's lunch counter. I am proud of the work done at Shaw University. I am proud of the fact that the "Freedom Riders" could set up a southern base of operations here. It sickens me to see that groups want to tear down the hard work these people did. I am sick of people wanting to resegregate instead of fighting to become equal. I am tired of people blaming others instead of assimilating or attempting to rise to a certain level of competency.

My grandfather was full blooded Native American. He fought to rise above his station in life. When he died he owned three acres of land with a well maintained home. He also owned vacation property in the Appalachian Mountains. He died owing no one anything. He rose from pure poverty and made something of himself in a time when Native Americans were still referred to as savages on television and in school books. He was no man's servant and was never a beggar.

He saw he needed to wear a suit to get a good job. He put on a suit. He didn't claim it was an oppression of his cultural heritage. He heard the foremen and managers speaking articulate English. So, he improved his diction and grammar. He didn't claim his language was a viable substitute. When they told him he had to pass a written test to advance in the company, he studied and passed the test. He didn't claim it held racial or gender bias that prevented him from passing.

That is the kind of resolve we need in America again.

All of that being said, I agree with an earlier poster. Sprite was trying to attract black consumers. When the winners didn't fit the stereo type they wanted they reversed course.


[edit on 26-2-2010 by MikeNice81]

reply to post by K J Gunderson


Just google "racist lawsuits filed against Coca-Cola by Blacks" and you will probably see why Coca-cola just said F it let the babies have their way.

reply to post by EMPIRE


Let me guess. You are in the social sciences? If not, you should be. You would like many of them. They repeat the same stuff you do.

I did not say the same thing twice. People deported to America for having violated some law, and being offered the chance to die or serve time in America is NOT the same as being cleared out of your homeland because it suddenly became more profitable to raise sheep rather than use serfs to farm the land for you. If you cared about any history other than that that supports your own view of "whites," you would realize that.

By your own definition, many Europeans that came here did not do so "willingly." They came here under duress.

When I say "you" in my last post I am not talking about you personally, I am using it generally.

You, (personally) are making the same mistake a lot of people in the social sciences make, and that is lumping all people lacking large amounts of melanin into one homogeneous group and calling them "white."

We arent all one ethnicity. We have a lot of different histories and backgrounds. And we dont all benefit from the infrastructures so commonly called "white power structures." Just because SOME white people created them for their own benefit does not mean ALL white people benefit from them.

Your comment about asking the Irish kids in the suburbs of Boston about their white privilege is fine. Ok, so rich white kids benefit from white privilege? What about the kids of Irish descent living in the hills of Tennessee in trailers that are falling down? Lets ask them about it too. By your definition even privileged black children in middle class suburbs can never benefit from "white privilege." Why? Because of your use of the word "white." Middle and upper middle class black children benefit, from..........what kind of privilege do they benefit from, precisely?

Right now, I would not be "subjected to" gentrification. I am sure you can enlighten me as to why this is important to your argument.

And your "manifest destiny and white is right" crap is a pretty good story too....buddy.

The fact that they are holding a conference about white privilege means.............what? That sociologists have founded their careers on expounding on this? And that they want to continue to get funding and sell books? When the social sciences actually hold themselves to a standard that merits their use of the word "science"..... I will give more credence to their conclusions.

Whose research backs up the claim that poor blacks have it harder than whites, and how did they control for other variables?

Why I am not telling you how "ascribed status and social mobility" create "infrastructures where others are oppressed" is because it didnt matter to me personally that they do. My position in life was what it was. My class, gender, etc., were already what they were. I understand that things are easier (on some levels) for people who are born with more wealth and status. But are you claiming those are "white" issues? Regardless whether or not I consider those ideal, or just, what does that have to do with the day to day choices I make as I negotiate life? Has there been a time and a place where all men and women really did have perfect equality? I can wish all I want that I live in Platos Republic, and that merit alone dictates my movement in life, but I dont. I theorize about the ideal, and even consider ways that we could move closer to it. But what I dont do is sit in a puddle of resentment because that is not my circumstance. I consider what I am working with, I consider my own abilities, and I pick a path that I feel can get me closer to my goals. I will not likely end up with the life I would have had had everything been fair. But I am not going to cry and be angry about that. I am going to have the best life I can make for myself, given what actually is my circumstance, within my own ethical boundaries. Which do not permit me to victimize others because they happen to look like or resemble people I feel have contributed to the "unfairness" of my circumstances. I stand up to and fight only people who individually are attempting to do me wrong. Not people who can creatively be considered the same group.

As for your closing shots, I did (do) experience discrimination. I am not saying "I dont experience that." That is your projection. And I find it hard to imagine having less resources or infrastructure than foster children do when they leave foster care. I did have a better mind than some, which I did use to my advantage, but I financed my education with physical labor. Which you dont need a fine mind to do. I did not have children, I did not party, I did not buy nice clothes or cars, or take trips, or eat out, or see movies, or have cell phones, or cable. I saved every penny I could. I took jobs that were more dangerous than the average because they paid better. I was willing to be away from my hometown if it paid better. I fought to be included in every job training opportunity I could, and when a nice heavy equipment operator offered to teach us after work to run the equipment, I went after work and learned on my own time. I worked on the weekends too, part time sometimes washing dishes, sometimes stocking a grocery. I did nothing in my 20's but make money and save it. I was boring, but I saved for school. There are people of every skin color who are disadvantaged that do the same.

Some people just dont want to do that. When I was established in my job, I offered to help people I grew up with (non-whites as poor as I was) get on and do the same thing. You would be surprised how many of my friends did not want to do hard physical labor, or to be away from home and conveniences. I know another poor white (That I met as an adult) who worked on the Alaskan fishing boats (one of the most dangerous jobs in the country) and saved every penny he earned too, and started his own, (now very successful) pub. Not everyone wants to do that either. It isnt easy if you start off very disadvantaged. You do have to work harder, and do better, sometimes take more risks with your own well being, and save more. But, if thats what it is, and you want out, thats what you do. So that is how you get out if you dont have resources. You climb out, slowly, working your fingers to the bone and saving every penny and making smart choices about starting a family. Not everyone wants to do it. Some would rather hope that things suddenly and magically became more fair.

reply to post by Snarf

By "we" i mean the collective audience that is taking part in this discussion. most pointedly...you.

Most pointedly me, but what that translates to is anyone who doesn’t share your form of bias.

My, My...playing the role of the victim, now, are we? Poor Poor Empire.

No, I’m playing the role of truth teller and a member who tells it like it is, something you probably could use some lessons at. If it weren’t for other members in that thread openly supporting me, and calling the mods, admins and other members on their hypocrisy, I’d probably be out of here.

im not going to do your footwork for you. You come across as angry with your name calling, insults, and feverish attitude to anyone who thinks black people can be racist

More lies and I’ll address them. No one was called any names that were not derived from their own actions. I called someone a liar. I can support that claim by the fact that there is no way that person read all four of those links (all of them being multiple pages long) and still asked the questions they did. You may find his actions completely logical, and I expect you to because you’re of the same ilk, a fallacy? Maybe, but you prove it so it is what it is. Insults? Again, no insult were made. Feverish attitude towards anyone who thinks black people can’t be racist? Never happened. But thanks for telling me how you think I come across (as if it really matters) and thanks for also showing me none of it is rooted in reality and that you can’t provide anything to actually support your claim. Good job, Thundercat.

So what do you say about the millions of black people on welfare?

I say the same thing I say about the millions of blacks on welfare that I do about the millions of whites, Hispanics, and Asians on welfare. Use the system to uplift and improve your situation but don’t take advantage of the system in a way that is detrimental/harmful to those who need it.

I'm white.

And?

Aren't they benefiting from my hard work?

Is who benefitting from your hard work? People on welfare? Black people on welfare? Be specific.

White privilege doesn't exist in this country.

ROFL

ISBN:-13: 978-1-4292-0660-0

Find it. Read it.

Yes, it used to,

When did it stop?

but now it only exists in the form of a talking point for lazy black people, and apologists of all races to use to say "White people are evil".

Actually, many of the people who speak about it are white and I’ve yet to come across anyone that has used it to say “White people are evil.” In fact, in the past, I’ve openly stated on this site that it doesn’t make you a bad person. What makes you a bad person is willingly denying it when you know it exists and the sweep it under the rug mantra you, and others of your ilk, parrot anytime people of color present a legitimate gripe, or grasp...point out the hypocrisy of the white infrastructure.

The only proof you need of this is the story in the OP. Or OJ. Or...the term african american and its usage. I won't use it. I say black.

Myself and others have shown the people of this board that this isn’t about whites being short stopped but has everything to do with a corporation performing damage control to save their ROI. YOU don’t seem to get that and have stayed cleared from addressing that fundamental issue. In regards to the actions of those in the crowd, it was 100% wrong, there is no reason for that, no justification whatsoever, and if I were a member of the AKA’s, I’d send a letter of apology to those students and I’d publically call for those in the audience to apologize as their actions were harmful to all those involved.

However, I’m not a member of the AKA’s, and I wish blacks actually understand where their frats actually originate from (google Boule.)

Unless you can prove you're from Africa and wish to be called as such.

You, nor anyone else knows what color I am. However, as a result of feeling inadequate, you’ll often say “he’s angry” or “just another angry black”, but it’s ok. I love when people speak as if they truly know me.

Maybe you should re-read what you just said here and allow it to soak in?

No, that is the problem. I’m reading but people of your ilk aren’t. People of your ilk respond without critically reading, often in a knee jerk type fashion, and people like me, who can’t stand to see blatant idiocy, are forced to refute your claims and waste time when we could be doing other things.

Only lazy people blame others for their shortcomings.

Who’s blaming anyone? I’ve said nothing about blaming anyone so what are you talking about?

If you work hard, you'll make it places.

This is not reality. Maybe in your warped world this is the case, but the REAL world, does not work like this. Everyone does not have a happy ending, hard work does not always pay off, and life is unfair for many people. But continue living in your fantasy world as I need more people like you to prove my words true.

If you want to give up and pout, then blame white people.

Blaming white people is not a part of my premise, and I’ve never implied that such foolishness should be done.

reply to post by Rockpuck


I did the search you suggested. I see why Coca Cola would be so quick to do an about face.

They were sued in 1999 by four current and former employees. they paid out nearly $200 million with out ever being found guilty. Then they had to install a diversity task force, chosen by the company and complaining employees, monitor personell issues for five years.

In 2003 the Cincinati bottling company ownd by Coca Cola was sued for racism in a suit similar to the 1999 case.

In 2004 the SPLC claimed that Coca Cola had an institutional form of racism and slavery taking place in the company. In 2004 they were also acused of failing to hire women minorities as "merchandisers" for store routes.

In 2006 a Coca Cola bottler was sued by the EEOC for firing a black employee that refused to work on his day off. He called in sick and provided a doctors note. So, it had to be discrimination.

Some of the cases seem valid on their face. So maybe Coca was scared because of their history.

Something funny I found while looking at these cases.

Miley Cyrus Sued For Racist Pic

Following Miley's recent blunder - posing for a picture with "slanty eyes" alongside an Asian friend - Lucie J. Kim has come forward representing one million 'angry' Asian Pacific Islanders.

Lucie claims when Miley took the photo she, "knew or should have known that her image would be publicly disseminated via the media, which Cyrus knew focused on her private life."

She is demanding that, due to the "insensitive" nature of the actress' actions, each of the one million Islanders is entitled to a civil rights violation amounting to $4,000.

The case was later dismissed. However, I think it is indicitive of how crazy things have become.

reply to post by badw0lf


Don't you have anything better to do? I hear Howard and Vince are moonlighting for a new club in Edinburgh!

reply to post by Ausar


I'm sure that was a thoughtful statement, I wouldn't know because I couldn't understand that jibberish. Believe me, I tried.

If you'd consider taking bit of advice from a low white man, don't write like that at work.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander

Let me guess. You are in the social sciences? If not, you should be. You would like many of them. They repeat the same stuff you do.

No, that is not my field and not what I earned my degrees in.

I did not say the same thing twice. People deported to America for having violated some law, and being offered the chance to die or serve time in America is NOT the same as being cleared out of your homeland because it suddenly became more profitable to raise sheep rather than use serfs to farm the land for you. If you cared about any history other than that that supports your own view of "whites," you would realize that.

No, it is the same thing twice, you simply don’t want to look at the end result. What is the end result? You had no say in having to leave or stay as the “choice” is actually an ultimatum that forces you to give up the land regardless of what you choose to do. Do you understand now?

By your own definition, many Europeans that came here did not do so "willingly." They came here under duress.

Many Europeans didn’t come here willingly, no one is disputing that. However, who was this system founded to benefit? Africans? No. Natives? No. Asians? No. Europeans? YES!

When I say "you" in my last post I am not talking about you personally, I am using it generally.

No one is advocating people cry about the past and use it as a tool to justify current trends or behaviors. However, what yourself, and many others who think like you fail to grasp is that not all people who voice their opinion, or state the facts, are crying. Moreover, you need to understand they may have legit gripes, but due to the social stigmas here in America, are all lumped together.

You, (personally) are making the same mistake a lot of people in the social sciences make, and that is lumping all people lacking large amounts of melanin into one homogeneous group and calling them "white."

The reason this is done is because people who lack large amounts of melanin are held in higher regards in our world. This is not a view that is restricted to America. Have you ever studied some of the tribes in South America and how the darker people are treated? How about South American countries where the fair skinned are higher echelon? Again, a white person from Europe, regardless of his ethnicity, can come here and be accepted quicker than an Afrikan can. The reason for this is the European will most likely have an infrastructure to rely on while Afrikans won’t. Europeans are able to integrate into American society easier than an Afrikan because they are closer in culture, language and other things that allow easy integration.

We arent all one ethnicity. We have a lot of different histories and backgrounds. And we dont all benefit from the infrastructures so commonly called "white power structures." Just because SOME white people created them for their own benefit does not mean ALL white people benefit from them.

Listen, ALL white people benefit from it. The problem is many don’t want to say it. Have you been racially profiled? Why not. Because you’re white. Have you been followed in shopping malls? Why not? Probably because a black guy with a hoodie just walked in right before you. See how that works? Also, as previously stated, you may have a different culture, but you can easily conform and become part of the white in-group because you share the same skin tone and come from Europe. An Afrikan? No.

Your comment about asking the Irish kids in the suburbs of Boston about their white privilege is fine. Ok, so rich white kids benefit from white privilege? What about the kids of Irish descent living in the hills of Tennessee in trailers that are falling down?

Our system is designed to help those children because we live in a society where white is right. You can take those poor white kids, dress them up, put them in a metro environment and guess what? They will not be harassed, not be followed in stores, etc.

Lets ask them about it too. By your definition even privileged black children in middle class suburbs can never benefit from "white privilege." Why? Because of your use of the word "white." Middle and upper middle class black children benefit, from..........what kind of privilege do they benefit from, precisely?

You need to clarify the thought(s) you’re trying to convey a bit more. In doing so you’ll allow me to answer your questions and not misconstrue the spirit of your idea’s.

Right now, I would not be "subjected to" gentrification. I am sure you can enlighten me as to why this is important to your argument.

Simple, you’re talking about something you experienced and I showed you something that many minorities experience or have experienced. If you understood this countries infrastructure, and how capitalism plays a role, you’ll see how divisions are created and how displacement actually happens, but most importantly, who suffers the most as a result. Guess what? It isn’t the Irish.

And your "manifest destiny and white is right" crap is a pretty good story too....buddy.

Tell that to the children of Iraq.

The fact that they are holding a conference about white privilege means.............what? That sociologists have founded their careers on expounding on this? And that they want to continue to get funding and sell books? When the social sciences actually hold themselves to a standard that merits their use of the word "science"..... I will give more credence to their conclusions.

And what did you find your career on? You rather attack the messenger than attack the truth behind the message, a truth that many in this country have died for.

Whose research backs up the claim that poor blacks have it harder than whites, and how did they control for other variables?

You can find your answers to your questions in the following books:

ISBN 0-03-047534-1 and ISBN-13: 978-1-4292-0660-0

Why I am not telling you how "ascribed status and social mobility" create "infrastructures where others are oppressed" is because it didnt matter to me personally that they do.

It didn’t matter to you personally yet you just told me about your parents not leaving you money and how your people were kicked off land.

My position in life was what it was. My class, gender, etc., were already what they were. I understand that things are easier (on some levels) for people who are born with more wealth and status. But are you claiming those are "white" issues?

What I’m telling you is that wealth and status are more enjoyed by whites than minorities and that the white infrastructure and Eurocentrism have made this possible.

Regardless whether or not I consider those ideal, or just, what does that have to do with the day to day choices I make as I negotiate life?

Some of your choices, or lack of choices, were created/destroyed by people who you’ve never encountered or were created before you were born. It shapes the way you think, what you believe, etc.

Has there been a time and a place where all men and women really did have perfect equality?...Which do not permit me to victimize others because they happen to look like or resemble people I feel have contributed to the "unfairness" of my circumstances. I stand up to and fight only people who individually are attempting to do me wrong. Not people who can creatively be considered the same group.

No one is saying to attack anyone. That is the wrong thing to do. However, what I’ve suggested in the past, and what people like you don’t seem to comprehend, is that nothing will get done as long as you continue to not listen. Listening is key here, and I’ve explained what listening entails before, and was shunned for it, so I know things will never be good for minorities in this country.

As for your closing shots, I did (do) experience discrimination. I am not saying "I dont experience that." That is your projection. And I find it hard to imagine having less resources or infrastructure than foster children do when they leave foster care. I did have a better mind than some, which I did use to my advantage, but I financed my education with physical labor...There are people of every skin color who are disadvantaged that do the same.
.

Who gave you the opportunity to work? Who put it in you to go to school?

Some people just dont want to do that.

Why is that? Simple laziness? Or could it be that something else has happened that many people on all sides are not willing to address?

When I was established in my job, I offered to help people I grew up with (non-whites as poor as I was) get on and do the same thing. You would be surprised how many of my friends did not want to do hard physical labor, or to be away from home and conveniences. I know another poor white (That I met as an adult) who worked on the Alaskan fishing boats (one of the most dangerous jobs in the country) and saved every penny he earned too, and started his own, (now very successful) pub. Not everyone wants to do that either. It isnt easy if you start off very disadvantaged.

Look at the bold part of that excerpt and look at some of the replies I’m replying to. You have people here who think hard work pays off, but the reality is, not everyone has had a happy ending. Not everyone was fortunate to have two parents, or even one parent.

You do have to work harder, and do better, sometimes take more risks with your own well being, and save more. But, if thats what it is, and you want out, thats what you do. So that is how you get out if you dont have resources. You climb out, slowly, working your fingers to the bone and saving every penny and making smart choices about starting a family. Not everyone wants to do it. Some would rather hope that things suddenly and magically became more fair.

I spent years in college. I did some of the same things you did, no partying, no cell phones, no extravagant food, nothing. After college I flipped a coin for law school or to partner with a couple of people to start a business venture in an industry experiencing exponential growth. The coin landed on the business side and I’ve been happy ever since. I know things are not going to magically change, I know there are problems with the black community, white community, Latino community, etc, but we need to stop turning a blind eye and need to sit down and come to the table.


[edit on 27-2-2010 by EMPIRE]

reply to post by EMPIRE

Most pointedly me, but what that translates to is anyone who doesn’t share your form of bias.

You're going to talk about bias? the same guy who says black people can't be racist...you?

Coca-Cola agrees with you, apparently, so maybe i am wrong and the word tolerance should only apply to white people.

Maybe whites shouldn't be allowed to vote, or eat with black people either.

There's an argument for ya.

reply to post by Snarf

You're going to talk about bias? the same guy who says black people can't be racist...you?

Snarf, when/where did I ever say black people can't be racist? You either have me confused with someone, you misread something, or you're a liar. Which is it Snarf? I'm calling you out right now. When/where did I ever say Black people can't be racist?

Coca-Cola agrees with you, apparently, so maybe i am wrong and the word tolerance should only apply to white people.

Maybe whites shouldn't be allowed to vote, or eat with black people either.

There's an argument for ya.

See above.



[edit on 27-2-2010 by EMPIRE]

Originally posted by ImaNutter

White culture doesn't have a part in tribal Africa (other than stealing from it). So why are they competing in what boils down to a tribal ritual competition?

If white fraternities and sororities want to compete in something like this the very least they could do is source some Nordic rhythm and rituals...

WTF... I'm pretty sure that the African Americans competing in this competition HAVE NO DIRECT TRIBAL ROOTS.. We're American, we grow up in the same country... Cuban and Latin Americans have a thousand times more claim to heritage than 99.9% of AAs in this country BECAUSE MANY OF THEM IMMIGRATED.. Face it. AAs share the same heritage as I do.


It's time we stopped worrying about offending people and give merit based on ability talent and skill. If the NAACP was truly concerned about advancing their agenda they would fight tooth and nail against these kinds of things. All it does is make "minorities" complacent and slows personal growth.

What everyone is obviously ignoring is we have a 20+ page collection of random insults and meaningless banter between a bunch of people allowing themselves to get worked up over an age old issue that will never end. There are a lot of really ignorant and racist remarks being posted here by blacks and whites alike. Look, the bottom line is, you are who you are. You can be the most honest, trustworthy, giving, understanding, angelic person on the face of the earth and there are people who arent going to like you, regardless of how hard you try.

I have a friend who used to play softball with us, he is black and was the only black player on our team. We all grew up with this guy, literally have known him from Kindergarten. We have seen other black players call him an "Uncle Tom" simply for the fact that he plays with an all white team. It apparently has never occured to them that these are some of his closest friends, that he doesnt view it in the same sense that they do. He doesnt even allow us to defend him on it. Instead he simply ignores it and will usually say "you cant rectify stupidity in an unwilling mind" or some other saying. He is happy-go-lucky and doesnt allow anyone else, of any color or nationality, to determine who he is in life. And that is the point that everyone seems to be missing. So some white team won an event that some people think they shouldnt have won, etc etc etc..Is this really worth getting in an argument with narrow minded individuals on an internet forum about who is right and who is wrong? It doesnt matter what other people think of your beliefs, that is part of what makes you who you are. When you allow yourself to get into arguments with simple minded individuals, you are accomplishing nothing more than providing them an outlet with which to spread their rhetoric. When you argue with people like this, you have already joined the club. Hit the ignore button and move on to more intelligent conversation.

reply to post by EMPIRE


poor white people are profiled in stores, as are adolescents of any race. my mother in law was a hard worker. she'd often go to stores before going home, still dressed in her work clothes, which would be less than presentable. she was even arrested in a store and her belongings searched, for no other reason than she looked too poor to be in their store. when they found out she was actually the owner of a successful restaurant and had just been cooking there (thus the appearance), they were apologetic. but before then, they were out for blood. it isn't race. it's financial bracket. guarantee it. if they assume black person in their store is poor, they'll get same treatment as poor white people. they want black people's money just as much as white people's money. money is money.

since my bout with brainstem encephalitis, 5 days in a full blown coma, diabetes and breast cancer, i've become somewhat of an eyesore. if i go to the store with hubby, they always check our money to be sure it isn't counterfeit. if he goes by himself to the store, they never check his money. so even looking less than attractive, can get ya profiled.

Close this trash bash thread already........It will serve no good.

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by BiGGz
God forbid we have a 'White Entertainment Television' channel, or perhaps, white history month...

Oh no, if that happened, there would be chaos and riots!

To all the people claiming that all history is white history and all channels are white channels and other such nonsense, I would like to relate a story. I went to a school with 5 white people in the graduating class. Every year I would find myself in at least one argument per week about BHM. They would claim that all they learn is white history so they deserve a month.

That is when I would issue the following challenge. I will name as many famous black historical figures and you match it with people from my heritage. This gives you Irish, German, English, Native American, and Scottish. Guess how many times it ended with someone matching or besting my list? 0

Guess how many times it ended with me being called a racial slur or threatened with violence. For people who complain about being bombarded with so much white history, they seemed to have heard very little of it.

This was my school in my town. I am not trying to say this is something that can be extrapolated in any way but I thought it was at least mildly relevant.

One of the most heartbreaking aspects of race in America is that many blacks feel that paying attention and doing well in school is a form of selling out and "acting white". The tools of success are rejected via peer pressure and then the subsequent failure in later life is blamed on racism.

No problem has ever been solved when people are afraid to speak about it out loud.

THAT is a REAL conspiracy that is hiding in plain sight.

Truth. I have direct experience of this..

Stupid Humans!

Fighting over the color of their own skin, their man-made religions dividing them with different books and holding grudges from generations past that effect their thought process today.