DNA evidence of ET? part 2

reply to post by AnthraAndromda

You and some others here seem to think that a DNA test is some simple thing; just go on doen to your local Walmart DNA testing center. That is not the case.

Ive not seen anyone giving the impression that they believe having a DNA test is as simple as popping down to your local supermarket.
Obviously a test that looks more closely at your DNA costs more, but it doesnt take an expert to see that you couldnt have picked a less conclusive test if you'd tried. And just think of how much money you could have saved towards a more in-depth one if you hadnt wasted it on those two tests!

The tests do tell us quite alot, but you have to be willing to accept the data and what it is telling us. In this case there is missing data, data that needs to be there if I am to be Human.

They mitochondrial one told you you are of Indian descent.
Missing data? What? They were obviously able to locate the markers, your STR's just didnt correlate with any known populations. So what exactly is missing? It isnt that unusual, and even if it had been then why havent you questioned the company that did your test? Or why didnt they contact you if it was such a strange result?

Its entirely possible that aliens may resemble humans in terms of basic appearence i.e. standing on two legs, eyes at the front of the head etc. But when you look at how many different species there are on this planet alone that we can differentiate between easily, its such bs trying to say that you come from an entirely different galaxy/planet/living conditions/evolutionary timeline etc, whilst admitting that there are at least a few visible differences between your species and ours, and then then through all of that you've come out with DNA that is so similar to ours that we cant tell you apart.
Perhaps seeing as you have told us in the past that you are in daily contact with your mother, she could pass on some information about how your species evolved? Surely she'd want to help out considering the amount of time/money you've allegedly spent on trying to prove you are an alien?

You have much research, reading, and homework if you are goint to even begin any of this, perhaps you should start.

My God. Yea, its definately me that needs to do the homework here. :shk:

I like when anthra points out "something 'might happen in 2012".

WOW! SHOCKING!

Lucky for us, we all have a real alien here to warn us of something "maybe happening" in 2012.

Heck...why don't I help him in his predictions by adding-

Something MAY happen in 2013.

Something MAY happen in 2014

Something MAY happen in 2015.

And something MAY even happen in May.


Look at me! I'm just as creditable as our resident alien.

PS- Anthra, something tells me if aliens sent anyone to "end the human race" they would choose someone who could "actually write, communicate and perform" a bit better then you do here. I would also hope they would send someone who could keep their story straight instead of changing it every few years.

You are not an alien...and your evidence proves it fully.






[edit on 28-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Try regression hypnosis and see what you say.

Done that ... interesting experience ... it helped to start this whole mess.

Back in the 70's I was seeing a psychologist who likes to use that technique. After a few sessions he asked if I wanted to try it; it scared the living bejesus out of me. I was sure, up to that point, that there was nothing to the feelings of being an alien, just some delusion ... the hypnosis started the changes that have lead to today.

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by Mr Mask


Mock if you must Mask. There is a significant statistical probability that Earth will see a serious event within the 2012 timeframe (greater than 88%) If you would pay attention to the obvious signs, you too could see it.

PS- Anthra, something tells me if aliens sent anyone to "end the human race" they would choose someone who could "actually write, communicate and perform" a bit better then you do here. I would also hope they would send someone who could keep their story straight instead of changing it every few years.

Here you go again ... just where did you get the idea that I was sent to "end the human race"? I never said that, nor has my "story" changed over the past 40 years. This is all in your own mind ... kindly keep it there.

Etharzi od Oma.

reply to post by Bluebelle

They mitochondrial one told you you are of Indian descent.
Missing data? What? They were obviously able to locate the markers, your STR's just didnt correlate with any known populations. So what exactly is missing? It isnt that unusual, and even if it had been then why havent you questioned the company that did your test? Or why didnt they contact you if it was such a strange result?

Yes STR's that exist in at least ALL Apes, and perhaps in other species as well. So, finding them isn't too surprising.

It seems reasonable to conclude that you have little to no knowledge of the content of the DNA databases available. While these databases are not complete, they do represent something on the order of 99%+ of the human species, which, if I were human, would be in some strikingly small percentage of the human population, and very likely unique among 6+ billion. That alone, combined with my unusual ideas about myself, and my experiences should be enough to prompt an in-depth analysis.

Oh, by the way, the two hundred dollars I spent on DNA tests wouldn't even be a down payment on the thousands it would take for a complete genome map, which is likely required.

The maid reason I did those tests, and presented them here was to attempt to gain some insight into this. But, alas, you humans don't seem capable of discussing the data, and would rather attack either me, or the tests, or the resultant data...pity

Etharzi od Oma

All it means is that you have a rare genetic fingerprint. No biggie. No known haplogroup in no way means you aren't human. As a matter of fact while your test doesn't state you are human the repeats fall in line with those of human beings. At least the ones I looked at. Actually everything indicates you are human. I went through a few more while typing my response. From what I see you are human. Most of your markers are common, if you were an alien I'd expect to see blanks or different numbers. Sorry amigo ET you are not.

Originally posted by DrJay1975
All it means is that you have a rare genetic fingerprint. No biggie. No known haplogroup in no way means you aren't human. As a matter of fact while your test doesn't state you are human the repeats fall in line with those of human beings. At least the ones I looked at. Actually everything indicates you are human. I went through a few more while typing my response. From what I see you are human. Most of your markers are common, if you were an alien I'd expect to see blanks or different numbers. Sorry amigo ET you are not.

Thanks for your input.

Two questions however ...

1) what are your qualifications in this area of science?

2) How would you explain the appearant discrepencies in the phenotype - haplotype/genotype mapping?

added: You say "most" markers are common, that would seem to imply that some are not so common. Which ones? and if those less than common markers can be converted to common ones, what happens to the range of numbers? [I ask this because there is one marker that doesn't exist in a database, but, has a conversion, when converting it produces values that are outside the range used by the database.]

Also, there are some markers whose STR values are pushing the limits of all databases, and while this may mean nothing, it could be noteworthy.

And, could not some of these values exist in other species? And if so, what species?

The point here is that the differences between my species and Humans could be small ... kinda like the 4% - 5% difference between Humans and Chimps.


Etharzi od Oma


[edit on 28-2-2010 by AnthraAndromda]

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Why is always the way, that when Humans don't get their way, they start with the accusations and name calling?

There have been NO contradictions in what I've been saying. Further, I whould challange you to point one out.

I already pointed several out. Bluebelle pointed several out. You just ignored them. Ignoring them does not make them invalid points

The reasons for being here is a good place to start. You have given us at least 3 different reasons for being here so far. You have answered the same questions by different posters in different ways. You do not even really try here. You just lie and hope it will stick. That is sad.

And yes, on some points I get vague, that is quite intentional. There are some things that either you are ready to hear, or I am not ready to say.

Etharzi od Oma

No. You must think you are someplace fool of morons that cannot remember one written post to the next. You are not. Double talk and lies will not work here. I am sure you are far more used to a friendly audience but the people that join ATS are not that stupid.

You have been shown your contradictions very clearly and your dodged answering to them by being vague about something you have already been specific about.

Lie to yourself but do not bother lying to me. You are not going to convince me that I am not reading what I am.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by K J Gunderson]

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by BobbyX
Back up a bit, starman. Do you really suppose that if there were any kind of anomalies with your blood which could indicate that you may not be human, that the experts doing the tests would not notice?
Do you really think you wouldn't have the government knocking on your door?
Wakey wakey.
I'm sure any attention your bringing to yourself with these claims is all very nice for you but please, have a word with yourself. Seriously.
Time to have a wash and a shave, go get youself a haircut and perhaps find yourself an activity in your community, away from your computer and interacting with other people.

Do you really think some lab tech doing a CBC would notice the difference? He is looking for specific information, present in all blood regardless of species. If he was doint the same tests on a sample from my Wolf, I doubt he would notice it wasn't humsn.

You should have read the whole thread, if you had you would have noticed that the government already knows all about me. I see a government doctor on a regular basis. He listens to my heart and lungs, checks the lab work, and we discuss living on this rock of yours.

So please; wakey, wakey! Read ALL the revelant data before inserting your foot in your mouth.

Etharzi od Oma

No, I din't read the whole thread. Why would I when you're claiming to be a spaceman. Surely if you were, and had these great tasks set to you by your 'people', you'ld have better things to do than sit around on your computer trying to convince other people that you're an alien.
In half your posts you're whinging about your blood tests possibly indicating that you're not human, and in the other half you're openly claiming to actually be a spaceman.
Nobody is buying it. Nobody is that deluded. I mock you and I mock your species. Please feel free to send your mommy's spacefleet to destroy me.
Alternatively, turn the computer off and go and find yourself a girlfriend.
There is another alternative but I think that one goes without saying really.
Get a life, dude.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Do you really think some lab tech doing a CBC would notice the difference? He is looking for specific information, present in all blood regardless of species. If he was doint the same tests on a sample from my Wolf, I doubt he would notice it wasn't humsn.

Then why bother having the tests done at all if you already know they will not tell you what it is you took them to find out? This would be another one of those contradictions you claim you have no clue you are making.

You should have read the whole thread, if you had you would have noticed that the government already knows all about me. I see a government doctor on a regular basis. He listens to my heart and lungs, checks the lab work, and we discuss living on this rock of yours.

A government doctor that can test your DNA? Why are you sending your DNA away to be tested if you already have a government doctor to see in person?

So please; wakey, wakey! Read ALL the revelant data before inserting your foot in your mouth.

Etharzi od Oma

There is some advice for you. Wakey wakey! Best remember what you already said the last time before putting your foot in your mouth and contradicting yourself...again.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Why is always the way, that when Humans don't get their way, they start with the accusations and name calling?

There have been NO contradictions in what I've been saying. Further, I whould challange you to point one out.

I already pointed several out. Bluebelle pointed several out. You just ignored them. Ignoring them does not make them invalid points

So far the "contradictions" that have been pointed out have been only been in the mind of the pointer.

Again, I would issue the challange: show me a contradiction. We can even make it a "side-discussion" if you like, then I can show you that it is not a contradiction at all, and probably a refinement of data.

The reasons for being here is a good place to start. You have given us at least 3 different reasons for being here so far. You have answered the same questions by different posters in different ways. You do not even really try here. You just lie and hope it will stick. That is sad.

So, while is seems common for humans to gain better insight into the reasoning behing their actions, I somehow don't have that right or ability?

And yes, on some points I get vague, that is quite intentional. There are some things that either you are ready to hear, or I am not ready to say.

Etharzi od Oma

No. You must think you are someplace fool of morons that cannot remember one written post to the next. You are not. Double talk and lies will not work here. I am sure you are far more used to a friendly audience but the people that join ATS are not that stupid.

You have been shown your contradictions very clearly and your dodged answering to them by being vague about something you have already been specific about.

Lie to yourself but do not bother lying to me. You are not going to convince me that I am not reading what I am.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by K J Gunderson]

And it cannot be that you simply do not understand?

Etharzi od Oma.

Ya know I just had a thought ... yeah, I know, shocking!

If I told you that I owned a 1979 Datsun 280ZX I doubt many would have a problem with that, but I tell you I'm an ET and you all have a problem.

It is statistically less probable that I own the car than I am an ET. There were only about 100,000 of them ever made, and most of those have been destroyed, yet the car is okay, the ET isn't ... Why is that?

reply to post by BobbyX

No, I din't read the whole thread. Why would I when you're claiming to be a spaceman.

Gee, lets see ... so you could have some foundation for your remarks?

By not knowing what I've said, what others have said, you really have no idea what to say, yet somehow, humans do this all the time ...sigh

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Ya know I just had a thought ... yeah, I know, shocking!

If I told you that I owned a 1979 Datsun 280ZX I doubt many would have a problem with that, but I tell you I'm an ET and you all have a problem.

It is statistically less probable that I own the car than I am an ET. There were only about 100,000 of them ever made, and most of those have been destroyed, yet the car is okay, the ET isn't ... Why is that?

because the car does not require proof of its existence. if you honestly want people to believe you then you're gonna have to come up with some better lies or some solid, undeniable proof.
in fact, i even want to see a picture of you with this car as i don't believe a word you say

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
So far the "contradictions" that have been pointed out have been only been in the mind of the pointer.

Then why do you ignore them?

Again, I would issue the challange: show me a contradiction. We can even make it a "side-discussion" if you like, then I can show you that it is not a contradiction at all, and probably a refinement of data.

If you are simply going to pretend they have not been pointed out to you, then you are quite simply a liar. Bluebelle did a wonderful job of pointing out your inconsistencies and even put a nice link back to one of your posts in another thread demonstrating it.

You ignored it, waved it off, and now just deny it. That is about as far from honest as you can get. Like I said, lie all you like but no one here is going to believe it.

So, while is seems common for humans to gain better insight into the reasoning behing their actions, I somehow don't have that right or ability?

You sure do but you are not doing that at all. You already have your conclusion and are just looking for someone to prove it through a DNA test. If you were looking to gain better insight, you would be out exploring your alien-ness instead of posting about it here. How is whining to a bunch of strangers on a forum about being alien helping you out so far?

And it cannot be that you simply do not understand?

Etharzi od Oma.

It could be that but it is not. Could it possibly be you are just human?

Need a contradiction? You are crying about these DNA tests you are seeking out for proof when you claim you already went for a ride on mommy's spaceship. What do you expect to find from a DNA test that you already admitted will not say you are alien anyway? You are a joke.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by BobbyX

 

No, I din't read the whole thread. Why would I when you're claiming to be a spaceman.

Gee, lets see ... so you could have some foundation for your remarks?

By not knowing what I've said, what others have said, you really have no idea what to say, yet somehow, humans do this all the time ...sigh

how about you come up with something to make us believe you?
you act as if we've got no right to doubt you. you're the one making these outrageous claims. let's see some proof, spaceman. no more jibber jabber, just hard proof. undeniable evidence. show us your mommy's spaceship.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
Ya know I just had a thought ... yeah, I know, shocking!

If I told you that I owned a 1979 Datsun 280ZX I doubt many would have a problem with that, but I tell you I'm an ET and you all have a problem.

No one cares what kind of car you claim to drive. This is not a car fan website. If it were and you were bragging about your car that would be different. This is a place of conspiracy and paranormal. Your alien claim is all that matters. If you want people to call you a liar about your car too then pick a different forum. Do not whine that no one cares about your car here.

It is statistically less probable that I own the car than I am an ET. There were only about 100,000 of them ever made, and most of those have been destroyed, yet the car is okay, the ET isn't ... Why is that?

No. The care is not ok. The car is irrelevant. No one cares what kind of car you claim to drive when you are posting about being an alien. Pick which subject you want to be bashed for and stick to it for a bit.

reply to post by K J Gunderson

Then why bother having the tests done at all if you already know they will not tell you what it is you took them to find out? This would be another one of those contradictions you claim you have no clue you are making.

A government doctor that can test your DNA? Why are you sending your DNA away to be tested if you already have a government doctor to see in person?

To have a copy of those data that I can refer to as I need. Yes the government has my DNA, do you really think they are going to let me have access to that data, do you think they would authorize a copy for me?

Now that I have some small amount of that data, I can look for a way to validage it against what the government has ... which will likely amount to attempting to get a look at the Doctors computer screen next time I see him. Maybe, if I'm lucky, he will leave the room for a minute and I can do a quick search.

Thanks for the thoughts; I'll have to remember to take a memory stick with next time, maybe I can download something.

There are other reasons that I would like to have this data.Perhaps if I get enough, I can somehow get the government to disclose the UFO/ET stuff that "doesn't exist".

Etharzi Od Oma

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

Then why bother having the tests done at all if you already know they will not tell you what it is you took them to find out? This would be another one of those contradictions you claim you have no clue you are making.

A government doctor that can test your DNA? Why are you sending your DNA away to be tested if you already have a government doctor to see in person?

To have a copy of those data that I can refer to as I need. Yes the government has my DNA, do you really think they are going to let me have access to that data, do you think they would authorize a copy for me?

Now that I have some small amount of that data, I can look for a way to validage it against what the government has ... which will likely amount to attempting to get a look at the Doctors computer screen next time I see him. Maybe, if I'm lucky, he will leave the room for a minute and I can do a quick search.

Thanks for the thoughts; I'll have to remember to take a memory stick with next time, maybe I can download something.

There are other reasons that I would like to have this data.Perhaps if I get enough, I can somehow get the government to disclose the UFO/ET stuff that "doesn't exist".

Etharzi Od Oma

or you could just get mommy to fly down and show everyone the proof that aliens exist.
you clearly didn't think this through before you started this thread

Originally posted by BobbyX

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by BobbyX

 

No, I din't read the whole thread. Why would I when you're claiming to be a spaceman.

Gee, lets see ... so you could have some foundation for your remarks?

By not knowing what I've said, what others have said, you really have no idea what to say, yet somehow, humans do this all the time ...sigh

how about you come up with something to make us believe you?
you act as if we've got no right to doubt you. you're the one making these outrageous claims. let's see some proof, spaceman. no more jibber jabber, just hard proof. undeniable evidence. show us your mommy's spaceship.

I though I did present some evidence, on at least 3 occasions. It seems that perhaps you do not recognize it.

If you want to see mommy's ship: get a decent telescope and look 100,000 km directly above Dallas, Tx. There are 7 ships, a couple are about 2km in length, mommy's is 1km in length and triangular. They are all a non-reflective dull grey in color with no lights.

Good luck.