DNA evidence of ET? part 2

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by Unity_99

 

Thank you dear Lady! For bringing a little sanity into my day.

I'll respond to your questions, but not in this context. There are others here, that if I didn't want to know better, I would think were in the employ of these "dark cartels"

Its kind of like; Oh no! He has something we have to obfuscate and discredit it! Which by the way is exactally what they would do.

Etharzi od Oma

P.S. Loved the links you sent ... I could use a week or so there.

You did not answer her questions. Not in any context at all. You did not address a single one of them. Who is trying to obfuscate? bobby asked you more than once for just a little proof. Either you are here to present proof or you are here to obfuscate. It is that simple.

Can you respond to the actual words I typed this time or is it just something that is too difficult for you?

Originally posted by BobbyX
so you know you're an alien. the government know you're an alien. and your mommy knows your an alien.
so why do you need proof?
i think its time you were deported back to the moon, you lunatic

You clearly have run out of worthwhile things to add to this discussion so why do you stalk here? Crawl back into your hole.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
How is this contradictory? As I said, do you really think that the government would allow me to have a copy of this data? Why is it so difficult for you to grasp the reason I would want a copy of this?

You are seening contradiction where none exists, and then condemn me for not addressing it. WTF?

You are just getting tiring now. You said you see a government doctor. You said this in response to someone telling you to go see a real doctor and get real help. Then you tell us the government knows what you are and is purposely keeping that information from you. Yet you go to a government doctor for help? That is not a contradiction how?

I don't beleive I said the government is keeping that information from me, I think what I said is that they won't let me have a copy of it. Large difference there.

Yes, I see a government doctor. But, not necessarily for what you think of has "help". What you are thinking and what I get are two different things.

This Doctor has a security clearence, and signed a non-disclosure agreement. IF I were to go to a civilian doctor, I fear his fate may be much like that of the last one I saw, though officially it was "early retirement".

Let's sum this up.
you and the government both know that you're an alien. you and the government both know this as 100% fact but yet you feel the need to seek out proof of this.
the government won't allow you your dna results to stop you from prooving the existence of aliens but yet are happy to let you walk around amongst us mere humans and posting on websites telling us all about it.
you're free to go to another doctor who can take a sample of your dna but yet you do not do that.
thus far, the only 'proof' you have is the lies coming from your mouth.
i'm not sure which is the biggest tragedy. the fact that you spend all your free time trying to convince sound-minded individuals that you're an alien without any kind of proof or that you believe that your an alien.
I have to wonder what kind of thing could have happened to you that left you with no sense of reality.
if you really cannot follow some of my previous suggestions, such as find a hobby/friend/outside activity, then i suggest that you just abandon this thread and re-register with a new name because, as it is, you have become a focal point for ridicule.
i can't begin to fathom what sort of reaction you expected when you started this thread but this is the reality of it. just because people are interested in all this kind of stuff, it doesn't make any of it true.
claiming to be abducted by aliens is enough to bring ridicule on yourself but claiming to actually be an alien even more so. particularly with all the contradictions (which have been pointed out to time and time again) and the lack of any evidence.
not a single thing you have said in this thread has any basis in reality

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Instead you want us to believe you have a really valuable car and no money at the same time. Explain.

Yes, my "Z" probably is worth enough to cover the kind of DNA testing required, to me that is not the question. The question is: "are you worth the selling of an object that I am rather fond of?"

Personally, I would rather sell the car to benefit my Wolf, than some human who cannot see the obvious.

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You've got to be kidding, in other species? I dont even know where to start with that one..

While these databases are not complete, they do represent something on the order of 99%+ of the human species

Where are you getting that one from? Scientists cant even estimate how many haplogroups there may be out there.. there simply isnt enough data.
And as for your 'unusual' ideas. Please take a look at other threads in this forum and skunk works, people claiming to be aliens or other non-humans are really not rare.

So what if it wouldnt even be a downpayment on the test you'd need? If thats the one that will give a definitive answer then thats the one you go for. You've apparantly been wanting to prove your alien-ness for a while so what would be the problem saving up?
Not that you would even need your whole genome mapping out. You claim your people are around 13/14ft in height so it would make sense to have the genes which are associated with height analysed, wouldnt it?

But, alas, you humans don't seem capable of discussing the data, and would rather attack either me, or the tests, or the resultant data...pity

Which brings me back to something I questioned you about earlier. Each time you come on here you get ripped apart, on other forums you've posted in people are a little more willing to listen. So why not stay over there instead of posting on here, knowing what the reaction will be and then whining about it?

Also, see number 18 here

This thing you do with saying we're interpreting things wrongly is ridiculous. When you first started trying to address the contradictions from this angle I tried to see your point.. but there's nothing there. Just contradictions.
Lets look at it this way. I ask you what colour jumper you are wearing, you say 'green'.
Later on the same day someone asks you the question again, and you say 'red'.
Then when someone questions why you have given differing answers you just give us some bs about interpreting it wrongly, and how we're just being sheep or whatever. Even when the answers are actually as different as the jumper example.

Oh and 'The Mask' posted a thread a while back in which all these contradictions were brought up. Obviously we were all insane and interpreting what anthra had said wrongly.. but for anyone who wants to see the full extent of these contradictions, it might be a good idea to skim through the thread.

Also... 'dark cartel's. I like this.

Originally posted by amari
Hi Anthra, your mother looks humanoid is that correct? What other

characteristics does she have to make us think she is alien including how many

fingers, toes, her eye color, skin and color is her hair ? When you close your

eyes have you ever had what you would visualize mentally as a computer

download of tens of thousands of bits of information in seconds?

Other than being about twice the size of a Terran, she/we look very much like you. Though, I sure there are some details I haven't noticed.

Course then there is the "download of information". Yes that happens frequently, my people usually use telepathy for communication, except for those of us that are still rather young and haven't fully mastered it. We tend to be more verbal based in communications. We also tend to suppres the telepathy except with family.

Since you have been aboard your Mother's Starship information on the

creation of the Earth and where the first civilization on Earth was located

might have been discussed. Was the first civilization on Earth humanoid or

not? You will know the answer to the following question if you are truly an

alien. Where did the first civilization on Earth begin? ^Y^

My people aren't from around here, we are from the Andromeda Galaxy, and as such have limited knowledge of Earth History. However, it seems that one of the first Earth civilizations we encountered was somewhere in central India, and southern asia. That was several thousand years ago by Earth standards.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by Unity_99

 

Thank you dear Lady! For bringing a little sanity into my day.

I'll respond to your questions, but not in this context. There are others here, that if I didn't want to know better, I would think were in the employ of these "dark cartels"

Its kind of like; Oh no! He has something we have to obfuscate and discredit it! Which by the way is exactally what they would do.

Etharzi od Oma

P.S. Loved the links you sent ... I could use a week or so there.

You did not answer her questions. Not in any context at all. You did not address a single one of them. Who is trying to obfuscate? bobby asked you more than once for just a little proof. Either you are here to present proof or you are here to obfuscate. It is that simple.

Can you respond to the actual words I typed this time or is it just something that is too difficult for you?

Actually, I did answer her question.

I have never said what I have is proof. I have however presented data as evidence. Most of you have not addressed that data, prefering instead to attack me personally, or attack what I written.

If you want to see the data/evidence you are welcome to visit my website. It is all there. Alternately you can go through several threads here and see most of it.

However, if your intent here is to attack me in hopes of discrediting my data, or me, then I am inviting you to leave. If you want to discuss the data, that is good, please do.

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by Bluebelle

Also, see number 18 here

Yes I've seen that. I didn't use their database, I found a better one. As I said earlier, you obviously have little knowledge of the content available in these dtabases. The reality is that there is much more known about human haplogroups than you think. for instance the database I used compared my data to well over 1000 haplogroups and something over 20000 haplotypes...no matches ... not even close.

Etharzi od Oma

With 7 Starships in position within 100,000 km of Earth what is the specific

reasoning behind their positioning? Have you been given the information of

where the portal is located for 2012 departure? Have you been told of a phase

shift to take place on Earth at the end of 2012? Is your Earth Mother and Father

aware of your Andromeda Starship Mother? Is your Andromeda Mother

Commander of a Starship or is she in a supporting roll on that particular

Starship? Do you know of other brothers and sisters you are related to that

your Andromeda Mother has been involved in conceiving. ^Y^

Originally posted by amari
With 7 Starships in position within 100,000 km of Earth what is the specific
reasoning behind their positioning?

Mother is an important figure in my species culture and government, thus all the starships. One ship is her flagship, the others are escort and support.

Have you been given the information of where the portal is located for 2012 departure?

Not to my knowledge.

Have you been told of a phase shift to take place on Earth at the end of 2012?

Again, not to my knowledge.

Is your Earth Mother and Father aware of your Andromeda Starship Mother?

Both of my terrestrial parents a gone now; mother in 1988, father in 2000. As far as I know neither had any knowledge that I wasn't truly theirs.

Is your Andromeda Mother Commander of a Starship or is she in a supporting roll on that particular Starship?

No, as I said, she has an important role in our government and culture, thus she is more like an honored guest in the group. She does, however play an important role in decisions for the group.

Do you know of other brothers and sisters you are related to that your Andromeda Mother has been involved in conceiving.

AS far as I know I am currently an only child. There was some stuff a while back about how I was mother's first, and our culture likes to space shildren out so that there is less competition for "mommy".

Etharzi od Oma.


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Originally posted by BobbyX
Let's sum this up.
you and the government both know that you're an alien. you and the government both know this as 100% fact but yet you feel the need to seek out proof of this.
the government won't allow you your dna results to stop you from prooving the existence of aliens but yet are happy to let you walk around amongst us mere humans and posting on websites telling us all about it.
you're free to go to another doctor who can take a sample of your dna but yet you do not do that.
thus far, the only 'proof' you have is the lies coming from your mouth.

And just who said I was free to visit another doctor? Doctors are not required to take a DNA sample

And just what lies would those be?

I never said that what I have is proof, it is evidence, sound, solid, scientific evidence.

i'm not sure which is the biggest tragedy. the fact that you spend all your free time trying to convince sound-minded individuals that you're an alien without any kind of proof or that you believe that your an alien.
I have to wonder what kind of thing could have happened to you that left you with no sense of reality.
if you really cannot follow some of my previous suggestions, such as find a hobby/friend/outside activity, then i suggest that you just abandon this thread and re-register with a new name because, as it is, you have become a focal point for ridicule.

I have no need to look for a hobby, I have some, I have no need to look for friends, I have some, and I have no need to find an outside activity, I have some. In short, I have the "life" you think I need, and prolly better than yours.

i can't begin to fathom what sort of reaction you expected when you started this thread but this is the reality of it. just because people are interested in all this kind of stuff, it doesn't make any of it true.
claiming to be abducted by aliens is enough to bring ridicule on yourself but claiming to actually be an alien even more so. particularly with all the contradictions (which have been pointed out to time and time again) and the lack of any evidence.

What I expected was some sort of intelligent discussion on the evidence I have presented. Instead what I got was a lot of ignorant bashing from people who refuse to look at the evidence.

not a single thing you have said in this thread has any basis in reality

Again, everything I have said here has a solid basis in reality, you seem unable to accept that fact.

Might I suggest, that if you can't address the data, you leave, go be "bored" with some other poor soul's thread.

Gold is the best conducter of current. Perhaps there's a pre-cataclymistic reason gold was so valued, and while the reason did not survice the catastrophe, the habit of "coveting" the gold did. Just throwing that out there.

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First of all, well done for dodging my question about where you got the 99% from.. and the point I made about getting only the genes associated with height analysed. Surely you would have considered that option seeing as your so short of money?

And better in what sense? You claim you yourself know little about genetics (which is obvious due to your last comment about your markers being present in non-primate species), yet you feel knowledgable enough to discredit a website that is obviously very popular, and so far appears to be credible. Especially when you consider that they offer further testing for free if the first test doesnt confirm which haplogroup you belong in. Which in itself suggests that it isnt an unusual result, there would be no reason for them to offer this if it was such a rare occurance.

Could you please elaborate on why my knowledge is so little compared to yours?

It doesnt really matter if there was double that number you were compared against, the simple fact is that you had the minimal amount of markers tested, and its not a secret that there is likely plenty more haplogroups out there that havent been documented thus far.

One more question (which Im not sure why Im bothering with, you do seem to have more time for insulting posts rather than actual questions).. how do you suppose that you havent keeled over and died from any infections whilst you've been here? Even if you had similar DNA your body wouldnt have had any protection from the millions of bacteria & viruses that we have here.

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Originally posted by Bluebelle
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

First of all, well done for dodging my question about where you got the 99% from.. and the point I made about getting only the genes associated with height analysed. Surely you wouldnt have considered that option seeing as your so short of money?

I'm sorry, it was unintentional. The database I used is the largest I know of, with over 24,000 haplotype, nearly 2000 haplogroups in about 150 populations. The database has literally 1000's of records.

As for the "Height genes", which ones are they again? Actually, even if I knew which genes to look at, the cost of doing an analysis of this nature could be as high as a complete genome map, this would put it well outside what I can afford.

And better in what sense? You claim you yourself know little about genetics (which is obvious due to your last comment about your markers being present in non-primate species), yet you feel knowledgable enough to discredit a website that is obviously very popular, and so far appears to be credible. Especially when you consider that they offer further testing for free if the first test doesnt confirm which haplogroup you belong in. Which in itself suggests that it isnt an unusual result, there would be no reason for them to offer this if it was such a rare occurance.

Yes I'm sure that there are those who don't fit int an existing haplotype, there can me mutations at any of the markers that would change the result slightly (I read it happens about every 2000 years). However, these mutations are usually only 1 repeat at a single marker, my difference seems to be a bit more substantial.

Also, in a very short search, I found that canines have at least two markers that are included in my autosomal results.

Could you please elaborate on why my knowledge is so little compared to yours?

Sure ... I have been a software engineer for the past 40+ years, and very involved in databases for the last 15 years. Thus, I am well qualified to judge the structures, and data contained within virtually any database. When I went looking for databases to search, I got some metrics on them. I then selected those which, in my professional opinion were better suited for the searches I needed to do. I only wish they would have let me write my own SQL Queries.

And, really, the one I used is massive.

It doesnt really matter if there was double that number you were compared against, the simple fact is that you had the minimal amount of markers tested, and its not a secret that there is likely plenty more haplogroups out there that havent been documented thus far.

True, but just the theoretical existance of more haplogroups, doesn't mean I would be a member, nor that they would be terrestrial in origin. And I will admit that so far I have probably raised more questions than have been answered.

What I'm trying to point out is that the DNA results so far are anomalous, and require further investigation. In the mean time, because of other data, the probability of me being ET is also raised, and while not 100% if feel reasonable justified in my original assesment of 99.99999%

One more question (which Im not sure why Im bothering with, you do seem to have more time for insulting posts rather than actual questions).. how do you suppose that you havent keeled over and died from any infections whilst you've been here? Even if you had similar DNA your body wouldnt have had any protection from the millions of bacteria & viruses that we have here.

During the months before my birth my mother had occasion to visit Earth several times, thus exposing her to some of the viruses and bacteria here, this gave some protection. Also, I was transported here just after birth, and while I may not have had all the protection of a human new born, I was able to pick up the immunities just as a human would. And, as I understan it, I was breast fed by my human mother for a while which would have given me more ...

And, yes, I do seem to have more time for the insulting posts than others ... probably some sort of character flaw ... what can I say ... even ET isn't perfect.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by Unity_99

 

Thank you dear Lady! For bringing a little sanity into my day.

I'll respond to your questions, but not in this context. There are others here, that if I didn't want to know better, I would think were in the employ of these "dark cartels"

Its kind of like; Oh no! He has something we have to obfuscate and discredit it! Which by the way is exactally what they would do.

Etharzi od Oma

P.S. Loved the links you sent ... I could use a week or so there.

You did not answer her questions. Not in any context at all. You did not address a single one of them. Who is trying to obfuscate? bobby asked you more than once for just a little proof. Either you are here to present proof or you are here to obfuscate. It is that simple.

Can you respond to the actual words I typed this time or is it just something that is too difficult for you?

Actually he did, privately. I am going to go one step further on this thread, because there are reasons why I support him in his threads.

Energy recognition, and I have seen his photo, very anglo saxon European type, in looks reminds me of Enigma, there is something of him in his soul, and very related to the word: wolf.

Oh my, heres a good song by enigma, one I have listed in my awakening thread:


Goodbye Milky Way


Second of all, my friend and I have been sharing experiences with the "rangers" for some time, and he has written out of his memory blocks knowledge of a deal very similar to what Anthra speaks of. The one who advised me is L'Arna, tall dark haired man, and I love him very much. He is wonderful. At one point he told me what disclosure would be like. And if it wasn't akin to this, to hang low, and wait, for this would be the wrong people, not the federation. Disclosure ultimately means redistribution, an end to corporate and banking slavery. I literally have had visions of myslef in uniform making arrests on the bankers and corporate elite. Now, there are two timelines, and this one, the one Anthra is speaking of, the one my friend promotes, disclosure, is the second place one. First place, nwo depopulation and catastrophe.

We're pushing to bring in second place to the forefront, and we need to do it.

I was told Africa is the symbol for earth in the cosmos.

Also, my friend and I write occasionally to each other in a cosmic language, and when someone sent me a picture of a lake, I knew there was a base there, and I spoke that language, so I was hardly surprised to be told it was an Andross/Andromedan one.

This contact, or connection established a set of occurrences for me, as I was monitored by a wonderful group of individuals connected to the andromedans, ie they work together, from Taurus/Telos. So underground cities, bases, and wonders beyond our imagination. Had contact, chekcups and patroles from these very tall, 8 foot tall, built like Triple H, blond man, and 7 foot tall women. And they kept our regular greys away, for which I am so grateful.

Anthras information is so similar, and his family is similar to those here, they work together, team work.

And we really need dislcosure.

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Originally posted by Unity_99
Actually he did, privately.

I am going to go one step further on this thread, because there are reasons why I support him in his threads.

Really? I asked the question and I did not get an answer. Any answer you got in private is not an answer to me for my question. Thanks for jumping up, shooting your hand in the air, and screaming 'I am as stupid as the alien wannabe so please come address my stupid statement as well.'

Is the word stupid harsh? I asked a question. I never got an answer. I pointed out I did not get an answer. You claim he did answer but in private to you? THAT IS NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION. Sorry if that is all way to confusing for you but if you ask me a question and I answer bluebelle in private, I did not answer you %&$#ing question!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Unity_99
Actually he did, privately.

I am going to go one step further on this thread, because there are reasons why I support him in his threads.

Really? I asked the question and I did not get an answer. Any answer you got in private is not an answer to me for my question. Thanks for jumping up, shooting your hand in the air, and screaming 'I am as stupid as the alien wannabe so please come address my stupid statement as well.'

Is the word stupid harsh? I asked a question. I never got an answer. I pointed out I did not get an answer. You claim he did answer but in private to you? THAT IS NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION. Sorry if that is all way to confusing for you but if you ask me a question and I answer bluebelle in private, I did not answer you %&$#ing question!!!!!!!!!

I'll be thanking you to not asail my friends like that, Human!

I did answer your questions, as far as I know, ALL of them. If I failed to answer one, ask it again. Be civil!


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AnthraAndromda, apart from ATS and related "off-shoots", what other non conspiracy/UFO websites do you use to inform the world of your existence?

i visited your website. it made me smile. the lengths you will go to in attempt to make your ramblings look like solid proof. it truely is pathetic. i implore everyone reading this thread to have a look