Why would aliens want to be kept a secret? Believers please read this.

reply to post by seangkt

Half All of these stories are nothing but complete rubbish.

Fixed it for ya

Life is beautiful, so quit wasting time on nonsense and fairy tales or aliens coming to earth and stuff like this and go put time into studying and writing about something useful like maybe financial, poltical or scientific issues. I believe the dumbing down of america is a conspiracy talked about on here and I hate to say it but stories like these aren't making people look any smarter.

Warning: Your truth is another man's fightin' words. Be prepared for 20+ pages of believers furious with your thread....And demanding YOU provide proof that aliens don't exist

reply to post by seangkt


Hello. This is my first post here... have been wanting to comment on this type of thread for a while now.. Just want to throw some things out there for you to think about.

If you think that life on this planet is beautiful then that may be the first problem with your perspective.

The whole idea of what an "alien" is (for some people) may not be accurate. What if in this universe there is only life, living in unity and harmony, and we are all one? So what if what we are referring to as aliens are really our brothers and sisters?

What if the energetic vibration on this planet has been low and that a relationship with the universe, and all of the awesome life that exists within it, has not been possible. What if because of this we have been cut off from interacting and playing with our galactic brothers and sisters.

What if the "energetic vibration" of the planet is changing? And what if the "aliens" are very well aware of all of this. What if the entire universe is aware of this. What if our brothers and sisters are very much here to help us understand what is going on and assist us with this transition?

What if the "aliens" have a very sacred relationship with universal law? What if they know that each and every single one of us is 100% responsible for creating our individual and collective worlds? What if they understand in a very sacred way that our world is a reflection of what we think and believe? And will not ever interfere with this?

What if these "aliens" have so much respect and honor for life and the universe and its laws that they understand that if they were to step in and take control, that by doing so they are validating what we have thought about ourselves for ages - that we are powerlessnes and need rescued.

What if our brothers and sisters are here to help us help ourselves. To show us the power that we all carry within us? What if they are here to help us to learn about and explore these concepts - so that we can do something that many of us have never done. Take responsibility for who we are. Embrace the love and the power and the joy and the abundance that is US. And to start to create our lives and world from a conscious and loving place.

What if these aliens are here to give us the greatest gift.. something that we talk about "wanting" every day - FREE WILL. What if we have it right this very moment and we don't even realize it? And they are here to simply show us this? And the rest is up to us.

What if it is not about the aliens. And they know it. What if it is about each and every single one of us? Living the life of our dreams, in absolute joy and abundance and love. It is about each and every single one of us finding this within ourselves. Once we do our world will begin to reflect it. And the "aliens", who are our brothers and sisters, know this and understand this... and this is the whole point of them being here.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


I understand it all quite well and didn't feel that I needed to put research into this but if you feel that would validate what I have to say more you just got yourself a well researched writing my friend. Sometime in the next week I will get out the old books and break out all my old favorite websites I used for research.

As for what you have to say about the abductions. If not physical, mental?
Dreams, delusions, apparitions, figments of the imagination, schizophrenia? These all sound like possible causes of mental abductions if that is what you meant. I will not say anything to big here as I honestly probably know the least bit about abductons outside of physical stories because I chose to quit reading them years ago but I will look into it. But look forward to a far more researched article.

reply to post by Signals


The photo above is a completely legit picture of a real life grey, nordic blonde, and reptoid. Proof enough in the picture above that aliens do not exist.

half HAHA. thanks for fixing it. I don't know what I was thinking. If you would enjoy a good debate jump in with me haha.

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reply to post by seangkt

Those are all good ideas but you don't think you are putting too much thought into this?

No. Its not a question of thought its a question of knowing, experiencing and intent. Thinking about the things I spoke of in my post is only a step towards their realization, however thinking whont prevent them from happenning. Having an absolute unbending intent for truth over ALL else may just awaken some to this Cosmic secret but one must pass the thinking point and move beyond. It is essential for one to experience these things prior to accepting them as truth, you can read about things for years but until you have experienced them its not validated.

If you desire the truth absolutely with unbreaking intent, in time it will be given.



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I couldnt even read this whole post I was so pissed off. You are a moron btw. Who the hell are you to tell people what did or didnt happen to them?! I have never been abducted but I have talked with people who HAVE and they are NOT crazy! I hope that the next time they come here and want to take someone it's YOU! You have no idea what these people go thru and you have no right to call them crzay or say they are lying and making up a story. Would you like to give 100% PROOF that abductions DONT happen? I dont think you can. There is more proof and evidence that they DO happen even though people like you just want to dismiss it. Open your mind a little, we are NOT the only ones in the Universe.

reply to post by nltkn


What if I asked you to find any sort of real factual evidence to tell me I am wrong? Also what would you answer with if I asked you to put aside your philosophy (which I respect by the way as it is not the typical argument most would throw in this) and show me physical evidence.
There is more physical evidence today showing they do not exist then evidence proving them.

I really do respect the way you approached this though. An idea I have never really been told that makes more sense than mutilated animals and abductions. You chose to make it a spiritual debate which I enjoy because in my mind I would love for the way you put it to be but but physically I go off the evidence. Most people who believe put their story into a childish, fun to believe, but far from realistic scenario that makes the topic less enjoyable and believable.

Originally posted by seangkt
reply to post by DrHammondStoat

 

As for what you have to say about the abductions. If not physical, mental?
Dreams, delusions, apparitions, figments of the imagination, schizophrenia? These all sound like possible causes of mental abductions if that is what you meant. I will not say anything to big here as I honestly probably know the least bit about abductons outside of physical stories because I chose to quit reading them years ago but I will look into it. But look forward to a far more researched article.

Yes mental in a way but not delusions or mental illness. I think (true) abduction type experiences are linked to the nature of consciousness. Consciousness and what is and isn't real is something that science doesn't understand fully as I'm sure you're aware.

I was interested to hear about your UFO sighting, I know what it is like when people won't believe you. It's frustrating as UFO means UFO and not aliens, two different things entirely!

Enjoy your research

reply to post by mblahnikluver


Get your friends on tell them to send me a detailed version of their story and also tell them to bring some fairy tale books because once again, they are just stories and thats all they ever will be. I along with the rest of the rational world will tell you that aliens do not abduct people. Sometimes people want so bad for something to be real it becomes real in their head I used to know the medical term for this but can't remember.

Physical evidence is key in these factors. I am winning.

Originally posted by seangkt
multiple races huh? Greys, Blues, Reptoids, Nordic Blonde ones.... They are all coming and taking people? Send me a picture of any of this that is authentic and this might be more valid. Also please pick up the "million" year old sandwich and keep it in your hands so you don't reply to anything else on this thread as humans have only existed on this planet for a time far shorter than a "million years"

I was merely posing the question whether you'd considered other races of aliens, not saying that there are. So posting pictures isn't going to make my question anymore valid.

And yeah the sandwich analogy was stupid, wasn't it

Oldest Skeleton of Human Ancestor Found

Jamie Shreeve
Science editor, National Geographic magazine
October 1, 2009

Move over, Lucy. And kiss the missing link goodbye. Scientists today announced the discovery of the oldest fossil skeleton of a human ancestor. The find reveals that our forebears underwent a previously unknown stage of evolution more than a million years before Lucy, the iconic early human ancestor specimen that walked the Earth 3.2 million years ago.

source

That's in context with my evolution argument... But hey, I can take a hint (and your sandwich) and stop replying to your thread.

Peace

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Thank you. The experiences are both very limited explanations as I was not as motivated to write those as I am now haha. Feel free to send a message asking. The idea behind a spiritual abduction to me isn't so absurd honestly. Though I don't consider it being anything to do with aliens, I do believe that the brain is powerful enough to create this type of delusion that is powerful enough to become real in ones head.

I start my new semester tuesday so expect paper next weekend.

Originally posted by seangkt
I understand the reasons the government would keep secrets of an advanced alien life form from the masses but what I don't understand is why aliens would hide from us. And I also don't understand why any sort of alien would come to an agreement such as that.

Why would aliens want to keep a secret "if" they exist?

I will answer that with another question . "Why would animal scientist want to keep away from sight from a wild pack of lions in their own habitat while studying their natural behavior?

Why do scientists try and keep the habitat of anything that they study as much free of any outside influence as they can?

The answer is simple . They do not want to contaminate the results of their research by adding anything out of the ordinary for the subjects.

That is in my opinion a valid answer and explains memory manipulation after taking subjects for testing and the need to try and stay hidden .

But if they do get sighted (as it happens) they simply go ahead with their business as if nothing happened . They do not care one way or another exactly like human scientist that research wild animals ("hey that panda saw us" -- "oh well try and be more careful next time then".. "back to work" ..)

reply to post by seangkt

 

I sleep with an aluminum baseball bat under my bed. Intruders of any kind are not welcome.

If I were an advanced Alien species, this would be the exact reason I would not make contact with a "primitively intellectual" species such as what inhabits this earth. My view, if the government is covering up Alien visits, it's for their own protection, not ours.

reply to post by yizzel


That article is new to my eyes and I will award you a point the sandwich thing was stupid but I had better stuff to write and threw that in there. Very interesting indeed but I would like to point out that I was wrong and didn't see top half of your post. SORRY

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Originally posted by seangkt
reply to post by mblahnikluver

 

Get your friends on tell them to send me a detailed version of their story and also tell them to bring some fairy tale books because once again, they are just stories and thats all they ever will be. I along with the rest of the rational world will tell you that aliens do not abduct people. Sometimes people want so bad for something to be real it becomes real in their head I used to know the medical term for this but can't remember.

Physical evidence is key in these factors. I am winning.

What evidence do YOU have that says they are not real?? NOTHING all you have is the word of the govts which is not exactly trust worthy.

You might want to do some reading before you say such ignorant things as you have been. I get so tired of people like you telling everyone out there that they are crazy or lying well I believe most of those people are telling the truth. First of all the govts of the world would TOTALLY keep this stuff secret because god for bid people really knew aliens were here visiting the poop would hit the fan and people would freak out, people would question everything they ever believed and most couldnt handle it. This is what I believe 100% and so do many others.

Betty and Barney Hill
This IMO is one of the best cases with physical evidence that cant really be explained.

Travis Walton
this is another good one imo


read these

I am really sorry that you have such a closed mind and that you live in an obvious bubble because you yourself probably cant handle the thought of aliens abducting people or even visiting. I hope you have an experience SOON so you can see that these people are NOT crazy.

reply to post by Mr Green


I am past thinking. I have thought a long time and put tons of reading time into researching the truth and after reading article after article, blog after blog, joural after journal and so on I still find myself wanting pictures and not just words.
People have been saying the truth is coming soon and 3 years later soon is still in effect and no proof. I like your way of speaking this I am just over thinking. It's time for physical evidence.

reply to post by mblahnikluver


Being open minded and being completely gullible to nonfactual abduction stories are two very different things. Being open minded doesn't mean we are to take in every story we here and believe it. If that were the case this website would not be as successful as it is. I stay open minded to many things but I also never hesitate to express an opinion.


My mind is not closed and there is still no factual evidence. A guy opened a ufo research center? So did the government. Nothing new here. We still have seti too.

I have spent many years reading and wanting ufos to be real but I am past the blind faith crap. All the "die hard believers" have been saying they are coming soon but nothing. PHYSICAL EVIDENCE AND I WILL FEEL DUMB!!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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reply to post by seangkt


There is evidence but it's explained away as other things for a reason. They dont want us to know the truth. I have seen UFO's myself and they freaked me out but I was intrigued. I am not going to argue with you, it's pointless and I think you only made this post to piss others off.

reply to post by mblahnikluver


No evidence that 100% proves existence. Just stories and research that also doesn't make alien life any more real. This post was made to piss people off as much as it was made to express an opinion like everyone else here. Saving the argument is fine but we can sit here all day and neither one of us could technically never be right because 50 years from now something could show up. But as for right now alien life does not exist to humans and never has therefore it does not exist yet.

Originally posted by seangkt
reply to post by Mr Green

I am past thinking. I have thought a long time and put tons of reading time into researching the truth and after reading article after article, blog after blog, joural after journal and so on I still find myself wanting pictures and not just words.

Its good your realizing the limitations of just thinking about this. Also there is much confusion out there designed to do just that, send you off on wild goose chases for what can be years. You can read a whole library and see a million pictures but until you experience this it will never be validated. Stop reading and start seeking.

It's time for physical evidence.

And will you believe this so called physical evidence when or if its presented to you by whoever? Well I would not, not unless I had experienced the very thing they were showing me.

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