Why would aliens want to be kept a secret? Believers please read this.

I understand the reasons the government would keep secrets of an advanced alien life form from the masses but what I don't understand is why aliens would hide from us. And I also don't understand why any sort of alien would come to an agreement such as that.

I will use some info from a few conspiracies as reasons why I don't think they are here or maybe even exist for that matter.

First off I have read over and over that humans were possibly genetically created from an advanced alien race.
This idea alone makes me wonder why aliens would "abduct" people for studies if they created us. I know if I make a sandwich I know what's on it and don't need to double check. If they can genetically create us they make more on a home planet and use those for tests.

Alien space ship fleets coming towards earth viewed by google earth. I see these posts all of the time and the somewhat low-mid percentage of you guys even questioning if they are ships makes me feel bad for people. Google Earth, WWT and all similar programs would never be allowed to leak pictures of something as crucial as alien ships. If aliens were here and trying to keep quiet or have been here do you really believe they would just show up in a fleet on satellite cameras that are available for the public to see? I think not.

Abductions......Just give it up already your either crazy or you want someone to listen to you way to much. Loneliness sucks, but guess what! There is a simple cure for it. DONT TELL A STORY AS DUMB AS THIS and people may want to be your friend. Never a picture or any valid proof and still lots of people choose to question the validity of these stories as if there NOT TRUE isn't the only answer. Once again if aliens were trying to stay hidden from us why would they abduct someone and send them back with memories of them? Once again failing on the subtelty mission.

Mutliated animals found and considered to be caused by aliens. Have you guys never heard of psychopaths or maybe some random, not local, but close enough predator to have come and decided snack time was needed. I have seen this story more than a few times and saw the same amount of people believing it.
Seriously? Seriously........ This one is way to stupid for me to even laugh at but once again I ask a question. If this were caused by aliens I believe we have the proper forensic science tools to figure out what mutliated the animal and if it were something not from here well I'm sure we'd hear about it somehow. With that being said if aliens were leaving them behind also very stupid if trying to stay hidden.

I can go on forever with these but am going to stop here and get to my point. To many of you are wanting to believe so bad and fooling yourselves. If aliens were to come to this planet I doubt they would go completely hidden to the rest of world and make it to the white house to speak to only people who are supposed to know top secret stuff. Half of these stories are nothing but complete rubbish. When aliens want us to know they exist IF they do the world will find out as one and as much as I would love to see alien life I put much emphasis on the word IF.

Life is beautiful, so quit wasting time on nonsense and fairy tales or aliens coming to earth and stuff like this and go put time into studying and writing about something useful like maybe financial, poltical or scientific issues. I believe the dumbing down of america is a conspiracy talked about on here and I hate to say it but stories like these aren't making people look any smarter.

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I understand the reasons the government would keep secrets of an advanced alien life form from the masses but what I don't understand is why aliens would hide from us. And I also don't understand why any sort of alien would come to an agreement such as that.

Control, manipulation, maintance of Soul food (energy) source in an unaware state so it can be stolen, prevent human enlightenment/spiritual advancement/transcendance...the list is endless.

I have come to the conclusion that we are not being visited by "space aliens". I know that such a statement will get me cyber crucified by the masses that have fallen for all the propaganda. I am okay with that. It happens.

Supposedly aliens would interfere with our free will.
If the goverment knows aliens are here then maybe they don't tell us anything because they don't know how people will react.

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Those are all good ideas but you don't think you are putting too much thought into this? I once believed most of these stories myselves but once I started really thinking for myself again I realized that without any sort of proof at all aliens fall under the "blind faith" category which I don't take to much part in. There has never been proof and never will be. Please don't bring up Roswell as proof because it isn't. Beholad a Pale Horse was a big thing that got me really into the whole alien thing and I realize once again this is just a book with a story equivalent to any number of movies with the same scenario and story. But then you find the man who wrote it was discharged from both navy and air force, wanted for tax evasion, and all around just crazy.

If they needed something from this planet and are already capable of reaching our planet I'm sure they could easily come and take what they want. If we were farming anything for them how are we getting it to them?
Cargo spaceships? invisible spaceships? are they beaming it up? If they are advanced as they are supposed to be child's play like this wouldn't be going down. If we were spawned from an alien race I am sure we are a reflection of they're characteristics and america and most other countries have no problems going into wherever they need to and taking what they want too if they want it that bad. Take oil and wtc as an example.

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I know the government would hide this. It's the aliens that I don't see as hiding type.

They are not aliens..they are the Fallen angels and the leftover halfbreeds that were birthed long ago. If I see one I will kill it.

I wonder if they get a second chance? Just waiting for the right time...hmmm

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Would your beliefs change if a big spaceship came to our skies? Would your way of thinking change? What about your style of life? or the decisions you would make in the future?

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After personally experiencing poltergeist activity nothing seems too strange to me. If someone says they saw an ET or UFO I don't have a problem with it.

I sleep with an aluminum baseball bat under my bed. Intruders of any kind are not welcome.

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HAHAHAHAHA that was good. thank you. I shall kill them on sight as well.

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Poltergeist acitivity I can argue against but can also say it is a better subject to put more time into than aliens. You've got more to work with. Aliens though......Without pictures ET's are considered non existent. And ufos are awesome but once again 0% proof of aliens. I see stuff all the time and have even written but to link them to aliens is unrealistic. If the government was keeping them hidden and they had an agreement I am sure a slip as dumb as someone seeing them fly around would have been prevented for before it happened.

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Come on..there are loads of possible reasons why ET's would want to remain in the dark.

But, you have to realise that you are applying human logic to comprehend what may be literally alien thought processes.

What we may consider irrational or nonsensical or just out and out freaky, may be perfectly normal operating practice for them.

Unless you can step into an ET's 'shoes', you probably won't know.

In the absence of becoming an ET temporarily, we can make guesses though.

One particularly plausible reason for staying out of sight, is that they do not wish to taint the results of their study. If they change the dynamic of human life, simply by revealing themselves fully, then the study is useless, if they wish to see us in our 'natural' environment.

We do exactly the same thing when we study animals in their natural habitats. We hide, we follow, we tag, we film. But as much as possible, we stay in the dark and do not reveal ourselves to the subjects as this will taint the results of our study.

I believe it's the same with them.

Another possible reason they do not reveal themselves to us, is one that may cause a lot of people to feel somewhat rejected..they may not be here to study humans at all!

They could be here to study any of the myriad life on this planet.
We humans are the only species on Earth arrogant enough to think they must have a primary interest in us..but perhaps it's not so.

Maybe they are here to mine Earths resources...a good reason to hide.
Although, unless Earth has something of value (minerals, water etc) that they cannot find elsewhere in the galaxy, i don't feel personally this is the real reason...possible though.

As far as saying that if they genetically engineered us, why would they abduct us and experiment on us?

Again, you are assuming our human logic is on a par to ET's, and the chances are it is not.

Perhaps they are measuring changes in our DNA over protracted periods of time. Perhaps they are monitoring our DNA and mapping and plotting environmental and lifestyle damage or changes to it.
There are hundreds of reasons for them to do this.

Again, there are parallels to be drawn with our own methods.

We collect animals, tranq them and take samples. Blood, tissue and in some cases, semen and ovum. Then we release them, close to where they were captured. We more often than not tag them with a radio tag, so we can easily track them and follow their progress or lack thereof.
We then often wait for some time, maybe a year or two, then go back and capture the tagged animals again to see if any changes have taken place over the intervening time.

This is common, standard practice on Earth. Without knowing the thought processes of ET's, we cannot be sure we are correct, but the patterns are similar.

Are there some people who a a little ill who report abductions and UFO sightings? YES OF COURSE.

But it is stretching incredulity to the max to say that in every reported case of abduction by ET's, (millions) NONE of them are genuine.

If a medical doctor is caught murdering his or her patients for whatever reason (yes, it happens), does that mean that all medical doctors are murderers? No.
Just as there are sad, lonely people or mentally ill or delusional people
who reports being abducted (falsely) it does not mean that all reports are by such people.

There is a hell of a lot of talk and speculation surrounding ET disclosure and has been for a year or more. Perhaps the images of 'fleets' of ET Earth sized ships in orbit around Sol and Saturn, are a tacit feature of this disclosure, and there may be much more to come.

Bottom line is, although we have no choice but to apply human logic to the ET question(s), we have to realise that ET reasoning and choices for activities are probably going to be very different. And unless we get it from the 'horses mouth' as it were, we're not going to know for sure.

Originally posted by seangkt
First off I have read over and over that humans were possibly genetically created from an advanced alien race.
This idea alone makes me wonder why aliens would "abduct" people for studies if they created us. I know if I make a sandwich I know what's on it and don't need to double check.

Have you considered these aliens aren't the same ones that created us? Even if they were the same ones, perhaps they wanna see what evolution has done to us. I mean if you made your sandwich millions of years ago, after all this time wouldn't you wanna examine it first before taking a bite?

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Here's one I bet you never heard before. When the poltergeist was about for a while it was accepted somewhat.

I remember breaking wind a few times and asking someone present if they thought the "ghost" could smell it. Then laughing. Anyway it's gone.

Originally posted by seangkt
I understand the reasons the government would keep secrets of an advanced alien life form from the masses but what I don't understand is why aliens would hide from us. And I also don't understand why any sort of alien would come to an agreement such as that.

You think you understand why a government would want to keep secrets of alien life from the masses but you can only guess to the real reason because none of us has an inkling to the reason why – just subjective theory. An open mind is required not a mind that comes to the subject already under lock and key.

Originally posted by seangkt
I will use some info from a few conspiracies as reasons why I don't think they are here or maybe even exist for that matter.

Information cherry picked from conspiracies which are in themselves subjective fruit formed from a bout of lateral thinking would not be the most efficient way to postulate a theory as to why extraterrestrials are not here. To do so is not fair to the argument you wish to make, the people you wish to make the argument to and even the people from whom these conspiracies originated from.

Originally posted by seangktFirst off I have read over and over that humans were possibly genetically created from an advanced alien race.This idea alone makes me wonder why aliens would "abduct" people for studies if they created us. I know if I make a sandwich I know what's on it and don't need to double check. If they can genetically create us they make more on a home planet and use those for tests.

We make sandwiches so that we can eat them, we do not know the reason why people are abducted but as people tend to live through them and return to tell the tale, it is fair to assume they are not abducted so that they can be used as a food source. Therefore your analogy that a sandwich + alien abduction = does not compute.

Originally posted by seangktAlien space ship fleets coming towards earth viewed by google earth. I see these posts all of the time and the somewhat low-mid percentage of you guys even questioning if they are ships makes me feel bad for people. Google Earth, WWT and all similar programs would never be allowed to leak pictures of something as crucial as alien ships. If aliens were here and trying to keep quiet or have been here do you really believe they would just show up in a fleet on satellite cameras that are available for the public to see? I think not.

Very odd, I am here often and I do not see those sorts of posts all the time. I think those sorts of posts happen every couple of months or so and I note this because I find them to be fascinating in that the theories that fall into the thread give much food for thought even if what is being posted is outlandish and not believable.

It would seem to me that you come from the viewpoint that you are rooted to the spot with the label sceptic and unless a theory falls into the safe zone that allows you to subscribe to that theory then anything else is the territory of the sheep, the fool and those that are not as fortunate to have been blessed with your ability to cut through the muck and see the truth.

We are alone and have never been visited because of (pick reason of choice here)?

Originally posted by seangkt
Abductions......Just give it up already your either crazy or you want someone to listen to you way to much. Loneliness sucks, but guess what! There is a simple cure for it. DONT TELL A STORY AS DUMB AS THIS and people may want to be your friend. Never a picture or any valid proof and still lots of people choose to question the validity of these stories as if there NOT TRUE isn't the only answer. Once again if aliens were trying to stay hidden from us why would they abduct someone and send them back with memories of them? Once again failing on the subtelty mission.

Too many people have made far too detailed accounts of things that have taken place. I for one have read quite a few books on the phenomenon and when you slated the abduction phenomenon I reached for Mr Macks book “Abduction” to stroke it fondly and reassure it that there are many people out there that do believe that there are strange things going on and that the accounts of countless human beings from all walks of life cannot be the drunken ramblings, drug induced hallucinations of several million delusional human beings.

I have seen three UFOS (so far) on the first sighting I actually saw two but these things happen so fast and are such a shock to the system that it is a rare thing to find film of photos because it roots you to the spot. Your eyes are rooted to the objects and you dare not take your eyes off it because it is a fast moving event and it challenges the system of indoctrination we have grown up with that we are alone, the earth is alone and that aliens exist only in myth and entertainment media.

You can find these things yourself easily enough but it requires patience and you have to throw away the old guard system of belief that was designed to keep you shackled to the old ways. Open your mind under a starry night and by the time the sun starts to return dare to say there are not strange things going on upstairs.

Another reason that many believers do not take photos or video is they are not investigating the phenomenon to gain fame of kudos but to validate their own personal belief that what they suspected was always true and they have never been interested in proving the extraterrestrial hypothesis to you or I but only to themselves.
The famous alien hunters who all to often turn out to be charlatans are exceptions to that rule and only damage the field of ufology.

I am of that mindset that I am not here to prove anything to anyone except myself and I was happy to have proved this to my wife as I love her but found her immovable to the ET theory until she saw a UFO above our house with me last year and since then she is open to the possibility that we are not alone and never have been. It was not a plane we saw because a plane does not collapse on itself prior to zipping away at high speed.

If I can see a UFO in the future and find myself taking photographs of video I would of course post them but to have this media would the cherry on top and is not the thing that drives me because I could post an interview with an alien and he could walk me through his ship, explaining how everything works and people like you would still call me a faker of tell me that the propulsion systems are all CGI and they would tell me I am just looking to make money.

Damned if I do and damned if I do not – you cannot damn me however if I do not give a damn.

Originally posted by seangkt
Mutliated animals found and considered to be caused by aliens. Have you guys never heard of psychopaths or maybe some random, not local, but close enough predator to have come and decided snack time was needed. I have seen this story more than a few times and saw the same amount of people believing it.

An army of psychopaths all travelling around the world and doing their deeds without leave footprints and even dropping their work from heights in areas that helicopters would find difficulty in flying. Yes why did I not think of that?

Must be psychopaths!

Forgive me but it seems to me that you have not read enough about the mutilation phenomenon in animals and in humans. Your assumption about the phenomenon is contradicting the motto of this board deny ignorance.” Animals do not have teeth sharp enough to cause such injuries and animals do not sit down to devour their kills with straws and thus slurping up all trace of blood. Animals also do not bring jars of strange chemicals to the scene that seems to keep scavengers at bay and even delays the onset of decomposition.

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Please don't bring up Roswell as proof because it isn't.

I believe this to be the perfect example of our goverments to plant a seed.


Think about it, they plant the seed so we would alone see the case of roswell and be arguing over if it for well even now.

I believe Roswell was a hoax, but a hoax on purpose by the goverment.
It creates doubt, plant of misinformation and has the world divided if it really happened or not.

kinda putting other cases of UFO'S also in bad light and also creating the self doubt.


Why would they say its a UFO then retract the statement?
All done for a purpose in my view.


Personal opinion, I think they have been here since the cradle of civilisation.

Many types of species, some bad, some good.

If one type of alien did try to help us, thanks to the disinfo, plenty of the population think they are here to abduct us and use us for experiments when theyu could be tryin to help us but another type of alien will not let them get close to us or Earth.

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*Continued*

I believe there is much more to the mutilation phenomenon than just wackos with blades and the real ignorant people are those that fail to see a pattern even when it is pointed out to them that go way beyond a bunch of blade wielders on a mission for sick laughs and kicks.

Originally posted by seangktSeriously? Seriously........ This one is way to stupid for me to even laugh at but once again I ask a question. If this were caused by aliens I believe we have the proper forensic science tools to figure out what mutliated the animal and if it were something not from here well I'm sure we'd hear about it somehow. With that being said if aliens were leaving them behind also very stupid if trying to stay hidden.

Perhaps it is stupid to you because you fail to even try to understand the why of it? I would find it much more believable to assume that certain agencies already know what is causing these strange deaths and that there is a program of suppression in place to keep the reasons behind the why of it from you and me because it is not just animals that suffer such a horrible fate.

The truth as to whom, why, when and the regularity of these events could be the real reason why this phenomenon never reaches the public eye other than what we might se on the fringes like stand up comedians, comedy sketches on TV. Ridicule and deride what is too terrifying to study because if we ridicule it the truth will never turn a mind to a refusal to continue to pay tax and to hold to a belief in the rule of law?

It would seem to me that we as a species cannot agree on the colour of mud so an advanced alien species is not going to be too worried about going to the trouble of hiding their presence in the form of animal/human mutilations. Perhaps they know have nothing to worry about because disinformation that works in their favour will always cover their tracks for them?

We can always find a million theories but not real truth because it seems to me that our governors rely on our trust and exploit that trust one hundred percent.

Maybe you should laugh when you discover the truth because it is laughable not to mention ignorant to laugh at something because you fail to understand the why of it in my opinion.

Originally posted by seangktI can go on forever with these but am going to stop here and get to my point. To many of you are wanting to believe so bad and fooling yourselves. If aliens were to come to this planet I doubt they would go completely hidden to the rest of world and make it to the white house to speak to only people who are supposed to know top secret stuff. Half of these stories are nothing but complete rubbish. When aliens want us to know they exist IF they do the world will find out as one and as much as I would love to see alien life I put much emphasis on the word IF.

I have seen UFO’s and I have seen them with others who confirmed that what I was seeing they were seeing too. I even watched two ambulance crews looking up at them as my wife and I looked up. It is crazy but for the time the UFO hung above my house the colour of the sky was weird too (electric blue, purplish tint) and my wife even mentioned this colour in the sky right before she spotted the UFO and asked me what it was.

They are here, they are watching us and I was aware that they knew we were watching them and I am sure this was why the UFO did the crazy thing it did and zipped of like something out of a Hollywood movie. To this day I am profoundly changed in the positive to have experienced what I have experienced since the first sighting.

My marriage suffered over this at first and for a year I was separated because I would not deny what I had seen. This is not the act of a man who wished to live in delusion or a man who might wish to fool others into my lie. I would happily take a polygraph test too but in passing it I know I would still be considered to have beaten the test rather than passed it.

I suffered much to the point I had thought about suicide during a period of depresson I fell into a few months after the first sighting because I talked about what I had seen on the 8th of may 2008 and was out rightly slandered for it by people I had thought were friends. Only when my wife also saw a UFO was I believed about the twin UFO’s I had seen a year prior.

Originally posted by seangkt
Life is beautiful, so quit wasting time on nonsense and fairy tales or aliens coming to earth and stuff like this and go put time into studying and writing about something useful like maybe financial, poltical or scientific issues. I believe the dumbing down of america is a conspiracy talked about on here and I hate to say it but stories like these aren't making people look any smarter.

Life is beautiful but so is the phenomenon you stare spellbound at because when you see these things for yourself you find that the words written by the deniers such as yourself mean absolutely nothing and paradoxically what is funny is the passion that goes into denials in regard to UFO’s.

I spend time in the highlands to the extent I know the highlands well enough to never see a human being if I so wish it and I know where to go to avoid the blood drinkers - the scourge of the highlands. It is not a waste of time to lie back outside your tent and gaze up at the stars for most of the night.

I laugh because I have seen what I have seen and you will never understand that we are more than just what surrounds us because at some point in the future the truth will out and you and others like you will feel rather foolish in the arguments you pushed without basis, without objectivity and all based upon ignorance, fear and lack of empathy towards those you will deride because they saw something you cannot argue against other than to attack the experience and the person whom experienced it.

Keep on laughing, I am laughing too

Note: I am attacking your post not you, and I give you a flag and star for at least posting about the phenomenon

*edit* for grammer and spelling. I came back to continue posting but I see the OP apears to have a "poke with a stick" agenda only and I am in no mood to talk to brick wall so I wil move on - enjoy the star and flag



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Originally posted by yizzel

Originally posted by seangkt
First off I have read over and over that humans were possibly genetically created from an advanced alien race.
This idea alone makes me wonder why aliens would "abduct" people for studies if they created us. I know if I make a sandwich I know what's on it and don't need to double check.

Have you considered these aliens aren't the same ones that created us? Even if they were the same ones, perhaps they wanna see what evolution has done to us. I mean if you made your sandwich millions of years ago, after all this time wouldn't you wanna examine it first before taking a bite?

multiple races huh? Greys, Blues, Reptoids, Nordic Blonde ones.... They are all coming and taking people? Send me a picture of any of this that is authentic and this might be more valid. Also please pick up the "million" year old sandwich and keep it in your hands so you don't reply to anything else on this thread as humans have only existed on this planet for a time far shorter than a "million years"

I apologize for my quoting you not working right but I am sure you can figure it all out.

"Perhaps it is stupid to you because you fail to even try to understand the why of it? I would find it much more believable to assume that certain agencies already know what is causing this and that there is a program of suppression in place to keep the reasons behind the why of it from you and me because it is not just animals that suffer such a horrible fate."

I believed for quite some that aliens existed and I still hope to see them one day but am giving up on looking because if they are so capable of staying hidden and don't want to be seen there is no point in looking right? If they are smart like you say they are do you think they would let the governemnt slip with pictures and whatever else or even let people get as far as figuring out their races? Come on man. A big part of me wants to hold onto the idea of being genetically created by something bigger because evolution is a #ty theory and this ones funner.

"We can always find a million theories but not real truth. "

This is somewhat my argument. But I also tried to promote something more useful than this.

"Maybe you should laugh when you discover the truth because it is laughable not to mention ignorant to laugh at something because you fail to understand the why of it in my opinion."

I understand it all. I understand it quite fine. I just think that this is a lost cause for anybody to keep trying for.

I have seen UFO’s and I have seen them with others who confirmed that what I was seeing, they were seeing too. I even watched two ambulance crews looking up at them as my wife and I looked up. It is crazy but for the time the UFO hung above my house the colour of the sky was weird too (electric blue, purplish tint) and my wife even mentioned this colour in the sky right before she spotted the UFO and asked me what it was.

I have seen UFOS and watched them tried to get pictures and even posted about the experiences on here but I must share an interesting fact with you. UFOS ARE NOT ALIENS! Unidentified Flying Objects are aircraft aliens are physical beings. UFOS are seen daily by millions and all they are is ufos.

They are here, they are watching us and I was aware that they knew we were watching them back and was why it did the crazy thing it did and zipped of like something out of a Hollywood movie. To this day I am profoundly changed in the positive to have experienced what I have experienced.

If you could please try to find one of my ufo experience posts maybe one or two of them can't remember. Both were with others who could validate what we saw and all will say that it was crazy but not alien craft.
My grandmothers wedding happened to fall on the same day and was in the same area as the sighting in Salem, Massachusetts July 16, 1952 and told me of the weird things that happened like the famous "nothing happened here folks go home" lines you hear. She told me this as a kid and said she never knew what they were but they could have been something alien. This sparked my interest at a very early age and trust me I have heard many other stories worth hearing but once again they are all just stories.

I suffered much to the point I had thought about suicide because I talked about what I had seen on the 8th of may 2008 and only when my wife also saw a UFO was I believed about the twin UFO’s I had seen a year prior.



Life is beautiful but so is the phenomenon you stare spellbound at because when you see these things for yourself you find that the words written by the deniers such as yourself mean absolutely nothing and paradoxically what is funny is the passion that goes into denials in regard to UFO’s.

I have seen ufos which puts us on the same level but I respect the meaning of the UFO and would never jump straight to alien conclusion unless it was a legit alien spacecraft.

"I laugh because I have seen what I have seen and you will never understand that we are more than just what surrounds us because at some point in the future the truth will out and you and others like you will feel rather foolish in the arguments you pushed without basis, without objectivity and all based upon ignorance, fear and lack of empathy towards those you will deride because they saw something you cannot argue against other than to attack the experience."

Keep on laughing, I am laughing too

I laugh because I understand quite well what is all around us and have read and read and researched as well. But it is all a waste of time according to the way you put it. I have sat with a telescope or binoculars countless nights watching and hoping and never anything. I have family that works for Nasa (I do see some really neat space stuff and get awesome information) I go to school for physics, most likely astrophysics but found a new interest in quantum computing. I understand quite well what life is and what's around us. I understand there is a confused man claiming I am ignorant but it is not I who put my marriage on the rocks for something that no one knows exists. Talk about ignorant. Good day sir.

P.s. I have been seeing people say "The truth is coming soon" on this website alone for the past two years. And still no more truth then when I first saw someone say this.
Note: I am attacking your post not you, and I give you a flag and star for at least posting about the phenomenon


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Originally posted by seangkt

Abductions......Just give it up already your either crazy or you want someone to listen to you way to much. Loneliness sucks, but guess what! There is a simple cure for it. DONT TELL A STORY AS DUMB AS THIS and people may want to be your friend. Never a picture or any valid proof and still lots of people choose to question the validity of these stories as if there NOT TRUE isn't the only answer. Once again if aliens were trying to stay hidden from us why would they abduct someone and send them back with memories of them? Once again failing on the subtelty mission.

Mutliated animals found and considered to be caused by aliens. Have you guys never heard of psychopaths or maybe some random, not local, but close enough predator to have come and decided snack time was needed. I have seen this story more than a few times and saw the same amount of people believing it.
Seriously? Seriously........ This one is way to stupid for me to even laugh at but once again I ask a question. If this were caused by aliens I believe we have the proper forensic science tools to figure out what mutliated the animal and if it were something not from here well I'm sure we'd hear about it somehow. With that being said if aliens were leaving them behind also very stupid if trying to stay hidden.

Life is beautiful, so quit wasting time on nonsense and fairy tales or aliens coming to earth and stuff like this and go put time into studying and writing about something useful like maybe financial, poltical or scientific issues. I believe the dumbing down of america is a conspiracy talked about on here and I hate to say it but stories like these aren't making people look any smarter.

No offence to you seangkt but your assumptions are very ignorant and you seem to have done very little research on the subjects you have brought up. It seems that these things seem improbable so you have dismissed them entirely usng blanket statements and generalsations to do so.

If you took the time to look into 'abductions' you would find that they are not necessarily a physical phenomena. That doesn't mean these experiences are not valid. Cases are varied, so you can't presume that there is one set of abducters/aliens (what ever they may be) with only one set of motivations and objectives. As for dismissing all experiencers as crazy, or sad lonely desperate people, that is purely your assumption and i'm guessing you have not had the opportunity to speak to any in the flesh nor would they be particularly willing to share their experiences with someone who prejudges them as mentally ill.

As for cattle mutilations, Time and time again certain organs (tongue, anus, eyeballs etc. if I remember correctly) are cut with precision from the animal with not a drop of blood shed. Farmers and investigators are clever enough to spot that predators tear apart carcasses, not surgically extract organs. Again with no investigation at all you presume to know what or who is responsible for reported mutilations (aliens) and that it sounds ridiculous, so therefore can't be true. As Albert Einstien said "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."

You may think you are addressing 'believers' in your post seangkt but some of us are actually experiencers, it is not a case of wantng to believe. I personally have never had blind faith in things I have not experienced myself and I wouldn't expect anyone else to. What I can't understand is people's contempt for people who report they have had these experiences. I recognise that you may have one experience of the world and I have another. Why the need for ridicule and hostility?

What makes you think you have the whole universe figured out and that you can decree what is and isn't worthy of investigation?