My expiriences from 10 and up

Hahaha proof I already given you the proof to awaken and see the proof. Yet you ignore it so much and do not even nudge so close minded on exposing me as a hoax. Which I never am so what is truly the use of doing all of this over the so called hoax that you keep calling me. I would not be here if it was a lie or a hoax and why would I waste my time on people like you if it was a hoax. I could just say stuff it all and close my self off go with the darkness. But I do not because I know the truth and have learned it well. We come as protectors, helpers and guides the question is it all worth the time. Where there are those that would rather tear you apart like a peace of meat. When they them self know nothing of what is real and what is not. Then how in hell can you label me a hoax when you have not experienced what I have.

Take you for example and match you with Lauren. I only known her for a month never met before and never talked before. But I helped her so is that a hoax I think not because you do not see the bigger picture of what is truly happening. You do not even bother to do what is right and try to do what is right. All you done is try to tear me apart Unity and Lauren. Honestly if you need proof Lauren is the biggest walking proof so open your eyes and stop tearing me apart you blinded child.

Love and Light as always,

reply to post by ShadowNinja


Shadow, meditation is not probably a gift from ETs, that doesnt make sense, and we ourselves are not the Guides, etc. That is also ego. When some negative closed minded, people are aggressively rude, even name calling, and have nothing but this agenda, to contribute, its probably polarities.

But, getting upset, letting anyones comments under your skin, allows them to grow and you end up shrinking. So try not to go the ego route. We're not the ETs, at this point, we're just slivers of self, small fraction. Of course to HS, we're like 0.0000000001%........of our 99.999999999%.......% HS, don't know if that is the right math. Does it add up to 1? We're all cosmic, some came in more recently, some alot longer, some have the added test of waking up aside from yearning for a truly loving equal world, and renouncing status, ego, reputation, worldiness, and finding the way within their hearts. So here we're in a human body, theres no need for ego. Yet at the same time everyone, and all humans are cosmic.


Here, lets look at it this way. There was a battle long ago, roughly 300,000 years, it could have been longer, mars, earth met with catastrophe and the negative weanies won. Now you say you helped form humantiy and we should be so grateful for this gift.

How so? That was a nerfing done? And who the heck is humanity anyway? A body? A soul? Well, as matter of fact we're all cosmic here with many other lifetimes in many other systems, so why would taking your cosmic brothers and sisters and forcing them into nerfed slave bodies and making it even harder to remember anything, via the hemsiphere and the moon matrix, various matrix scenarios (Saturn plays a big role), be a gift?

Sometimes you talk from the point of view of our cosmic equality and other times you talk as if to small children. We are you and you are us, and this school got hijacked by the bad guys.

I don't believe in the harsh duality even being allowed in the Cosmos, so I want something done about this, for there are things that are happening that are so bad, the Universe disappears for me, everything does.

I have added knowledge that everyone counts very much, and all our opinons count too, we are not silenced in the Beyond, we know each others innermost thoughts, and we're a giant team, team work..........so, if people find this negative school duality system something that cannot simply be allowed to be like this, they don't shut you up, they hear you.

People who are here are not awake mostly, but they're not children truly and nothing goo happened in the past, they got trapped by negatives in a test to grow and learn love in.

Also, all the different batches of cookies I've read about, why don't you tell me more about that? Both in terms of different human races, and why do people call them cookies.

Why would advanced ETs, treat their own brothers and sisters as slaves and put them into races they call livestock and then bully them for getting an attitude, and talk all they've done for them?







[edit on 20-5-2010 by Unity_99]

A heads up, there is work being done that is of the basest variety, by a certain unamed one, that is infuriating me. Someone else was already affected by this. And I've decided its worth noting out in the open, because, he's not attacking Shadow Ninja, or me or any other experiencer online of anything outside the matrix, et, metaphysics, oobes, those with visions, etc, its not the ones sharing that are being targetted in a way that works. He is nonstop attacking, but its not able to take away our trust in our senses, and belief in ourseves!. We won't give up our pushing the limits on consciousness, because the contact and/or visions, sitings, experiences are strong and revealing. Once the lid on the matrix is blown off, theres no going back, and when you wake up to memories of the long past and experience strong knowing, and downloads, you know who you are, and you're being pushed, not just nudged.

So, someone trying to get you to not trust your own experiences, your own life story, your own, inner knowledge, your own sense within yourself, doesnt work.

But apparently he has been attempting this with others.

My advice to everyone is simple, waking up in the matrix is hard work but people drawn to do it are being pushed from within, their own Soul and HS is guiding them for a strong reason.

There are many threads, writings, from a variety of angles, that are extraordianry and helpful, that nudge us forward. This one is Kirill's and he's doing it his way, with his own awakening in the process, his own ups and downs. He's actually being brave.

But whether someone watches a movie or documentary, or a video on youtube, reads a book, hears a speaker, has a dream themselves, or an encounter, reads a thread, whatever nudges the awareness in them, its not the source thats important, (the documentary, video, speaker, book or thread), its that you trust yourself. Don't let anyone tell you you are delusional, that the wake up within you is a puff of smoke and convince you to stop your own awakening and journey. No one else is waking up, you are, no one helped you do it really, you did it, by just being open to the world around you. Think your own thoughts, believe in yourself and don't let anyone shut you down inside because they're not being your friend. If someone is attempting to disconnect people from trusting themselves inside, instead turn the tables on them, and shine some light and teach them to turn within themselves and find their own way back to themselves!

[edit on 20-5-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by ShadowNinja

so close minded on exposing me as a hoax. Which I never am so what is truly the use of doing all of this over the so called hoax that you keep calling me

Shadow, Shadow, Shadow... I've called you a lot of things on this thread before. Hoax, however, is not one of them. ac500 has called you a hoax, but not I. Please, refrain from attaching the words of someone else to me when I am not their author.

proof I already given you the proof to awaken and see the proof

The burden of proof does not fall on me to prove your claims. The burden of proof falls on you to prove your claims.

Let me give you an example:

A candidate running for the presidency needs to prove three things: he is a natural born citizen, he is at least 35, and have lived in the USA for at least 14 years.

Now, it is not the job of the people to go and find the presidents place of birth, birth certificate, birthday and citizenry status. It is the candidates job to present his valid information to the public.

You say meditation, music and opening ourselves to the Higher Self allows contact with extra-errestrials. It is not my job to prove these things work. It is your job to prove they work to me, because you've made the claims.

End of example.

And, I have tried your technique. How many months now have I parlayed on your thread? Every time you (or Unity) have suggested a new technique for meeting your extra-terrestrials, I have gone off and tried it.

If any of it had worked how you said it was supposed to, do you think I would keep coming back asking for you to demonstrate that it does work how you say it does?

When they them self know nothing of what is real and what is not

How do you know what is real, and what is not anymore than the next "guide" in line? Where is your proof that your reality is the really real, only right, reality?

Then how in hell can you label me a hoax when you have not experienced what I have

I haven't labeled you a hoax. And it is because I haven't experienced it, despite trying your method, that I keep coming back asking for you to prove it.

Take you for example and match you with Lauren

O.K. Let's do.

I only known her for a month never met before and never talked before

I've exchanged 2 U2Us with her, and a handful of postings on here.

But I helped her so is that a hoax I think not

Yes, you helped her rationalize a belief she already had.

But... did you help her rationalize a spiritual non-alien-involved event relating to spirits, ghosts and deceased relative?

Did you even know about this event? She told me about it in one of our U2Us, and when I've brought up a similar topic before you have shot it down as nonsense, not real, and "lies and the evil dark-siders".

I can only hope Lauren has been following this thread and realizes a vital event in her life, by her admission, has been labeled the work of the evil dark-siders by you.

* because I respect confidentiality, I won't discuss the event Lauren told me *

you do not see the bigger picture of what is truly happening

All you believe in are aliens. You believe in nothing but aliens. The "bigger picture" is far, far more then JUST aliens.

Open your own eyes and cast away that tunnel vision.

You do not even bother to do what is right and try to do what is right

You want to believe this, but you know that I know that we both know I have done everything you've suggested.

You're running out of air.

All you done is try to tear me apart Unity and Lauren

I like Lauren, she's a sweet girl. And she doesn't have the narrow tunnel vision you do. Which I respect about her.

Unity is not so bad. She's full of way to many stories, and not enough evidence. But she gives me some fun sci-fi reading to do before bed every night.

And honestly, Shadow, if you think I'm tearing you apart then you're not ready to "awaken" anyone. I'm probably the least of your worries if you ever tried to take this discussion anywhere but here. My skepticism is mild at best. Mainly because I believe in the things you're talking about, just not your brand of them.

Honestly if you need proof Lauren is the biggest walking proof so open your eyes and stop tearing me apart you blinded child

Lauren is proof of other things too.
Things you don't accept.
Don't be so quick to place the burden of proof on her.

She's told me she had alien encounters. And I accept that. She's told me of other encounters though, which you wouldn't accept.

So what am I to do? You "proof" is proof for, and against, everything you say.

Don't try and pass the blame, Shadow.
You're the ringleader, step up and put your proof on display.

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I actually liked this one! I even starred it for you! Holy sweet Jesus on a fried corn-dog with mustard! Unity and I in agreement on something? Is it the Rapture? Armageddon? The Apocalypse? Has the end of days truly come?

Oh, no, wait, it was just this part:

someone trying to get you to not trust your own experiences, your own life story, your own, inner knowledge, your own sense within yourself, doesn't work

And then this part:

trust yourself. Don't let anyone tell you you are delusional, that the wake up within you is a puff of smoke and convince you to stop your own awakening and journey. No one else is waking up, you are, no one helped you do it really, you did it, by just being open to the world around you. Think your own thoughts, believe in yourself and don't let anyone shut you down inside because they're not being your friend. If someone is attempting to disconnect people from trusting themselves inside, instead turn the tables on them, and shine some light and teach them to turn within themselves and find their own way back to themselves

Those two parts together make up the axis of my argument. I experience things one way. My experiences are true and valid. Shadow is telling me they are not, that his way is the right way (because he knows "what is right and what is wrong").

So thank you, Unity, for finally clarifying that the road to awakening is not a one-way street, but more like a town square, replete with entries and pathways in. That "aliens" aren't the only answer or explanation. That spirits, and religions and gods and the metaphysical all exist and work just as much towards higher enlightenment if that's your forté.

I'm going to go and consider the ramifications of you and I agreeing on something now. If we wake up tomorrow and there's no more Friday - we'll know the Universe decided it couldn't see fit for such an agreement to exist.

~ Scribe

I'm going to write this to everyone in general, because its such a basic concept, not so hard really to understand:

There is nothing wrong or dangerous about, trusting yourself and believing in your own senses, your own mind, body and soul, and sharing your insights, expereinces with others, nada, nothing wrong. The danger is in thinking that you can shut people down, or make them doubt themselves, in fact its nazism and very harmful to the human race.

The problem the skeptics are having are in themselves, they have only themselves to look at and deal with, instead of judging and attempting to gain control over others. These people are like accusers, and in reality they display themselves as far more negative and controlling and immature than this nearly 18 year old youth.

Its all about character, and Shadow Ninja has displayed far greater character, He is simply trying to help and sincere about it regardless of what he is saying is correct or not. They have no right to interfere and judge.
So it's about character here!

He is showing much more enlightenment than any of them being on the + side while they are on the - side.

But Scribe of course is explaining himself trying to make it appear that he is only on the + and trying to help others from SN's DANGEROUS ways of living and thinking.

How can it hurt someone to consider a few things about ET's or other possibilities in life?
This is simply childishness on their part, and so tranparent!

If you want to save the children, why not go after all the fundamentalist religious parents out there brainwashing their children into illusions and dangerous thoughts, that actually cause real divisions, hatred, harsh punishments, obeying authority even when it means killing and harming civilians, the list goes on.

Now real dangers lie in the above! Dangers that control, kill, harm and maim others, and in addition cause karma and harm to the soul of the poor brainwashed child when the grow up in that kind of delusional control belief.

Evolution is a theory, and there is much informtion about how it really works, for those who see and research that is. Ancient Astronaut theories, including legends and histories of Inidigenous people talking about where they came from in origin, in additon to quantum phsyics and interesting factoids about the dna type material, microbes that are seeded and streamed in from the quantum point vacuum, to seed where they take and some sceintists who no longer think differentiation occurred from a common source, but rather that the actual seeding in is occurring in specific streams of life, ie. insect, reptilian, mammal, etc.

So there really are more interesting theories out there, that real scientists have been looking at, all via quantum physics.

One thing is for certain, no one has to be SAVED from the dangers of not embracing the one theory the others are brainwashed into accepting. Its not a danger to support the other theories, or do you think we should all be forced to agree to some specific party line and labeled dangerous terrorists if we think for ourselves instead?

Heres' my radical dangerous thought my own experienes and Higher Self endorses, and there are others as well:

It could not be any other way even if TIME is absent or they are living in a Holographic Digital Universe, with someone pulling the strings and freezing time and moving objects around and changing scenes, and things streamed in from the Beyond, and the Family of Light, in addition ETS on higher channels, able to hijack the signals and do similar things themselves, both positives and negatives.

I am so completely dangeruos in my thought you'd better call in the anti terrorist guys, my oh my!

There is nothing in the world that Shadow Ninja could possibly write that should be of concern to anyone if they dis-agree with it.

There are no DANGERS only something that threatens of offends another in their own current belief on something.

The disturbing factor of someone's belief and someone suggesting something that goes against what that person believe in is what causes the disturbance.

Scribe:

"That "aliens" aren't the only answer or explanation. That spirits, and religions and gods and the metaphysical all exist "

Unless you believes Gods, Spirits and all of that exist on Earth as terrestrial beings and there is nothing else out there in the Infinite Universe but life on Earth

(ET) Extraterrestrial.

Understanding the word extraterrestrial so it’s better understood, Extraterrestrial means something ‘Not of this world’ according to dictionary definition:

Originating, existing, occurring, outside the earth or it’s atmosphere, extraterrestrial life.

Existing, taking place, or coming from outside the limits of the earth.

Originating, located, or occurring outside Earth or its atmosphere: intelligent extraterrestrial life. An extraterrestrial being or life form.

‘All things’ ‘Not of this World.’

In other words ‘Infinite’ within ‘Infinite'

Space/Times/Dimensions/Planets/Galaxies/Realms/Channels/Stations and ‘Endless Others.’


So there are infinite ET’s out there “Alien to Earth” and Entities/Beings/Angels/Demons even the Creators/Designers/God/Gods (Whatever you choose to label/call them) are technically Extraterrestrial according to human definition and “Alien” to planet Earth. If one believes in a “Heaven” where do they believe that “Heaven” resides/exists?


Of course it must exist somewhere outside of Earth in order to be "Alien" to Earth in another place/dimension/universe/existence/channel/station (call it what you will) and it’s “Extraterrestrial” to planet Earth.

Make the connection between so called labeled entities such as - Demons/Angels, Alien/Aliens, ET’s, GOD/GODS etc that should really “ALL” fit under one and the same category. Such entities/beings have merely been misinterpreted, labeled, defined according to the current level of human understanding/perception/knowledge/consciousness.



[edit on 20-5-2010 by Unity_99]

In addition this post concerns another who is trying to suggest he has read too many mangas or watched too many animes, well my kids do too. They prefer them to the run of the mill, macho, aggressive war mongling, military type, fighting types you find promoted in all the media of North America. Hmmm......wonder why those who are more aware prefer different geneer's to the annanuki ones.

Well, one thing, this is a poster I have a lot of respect for but am really angry actually at what was just demonstrated. Trying to cap this young man, saying I should be controlling or guiding him more into conventional ideas, I believe. Hands off is my motto. His experiences are his own and he is showing great character in braving the storm to share them, whether or not I agree with them or think some may be hijacked form another source. He has the intention of helping others, and is brave and shows character.

He also has demonstrated some rather unusual psi abilities and memories that are out of the box and very unusual. I've had those abilities demonstrated enough to me that I am willing to support his right to share and speak and risk ridicule myself, because I would lying to not do so.

I'll give the example already given, this kid looked into a window in his soul and spoke her name, a very unusual name. The post has a date on it, and her u2u to me is proof that she knows that name, along with 2 others, also dated to just after his post.
Now from what I understand, her memories surfaced via regression therapy/hnpnotherapy, his was just natural, look in and remember, even unsual names for her, and for my other friend.

I've never seen that before. I have several friends who are walkins and only one knows a lot of names, and alluded to this by varous comments with me, and was very interested in the names of my contacts that came so far.

Please don't think that this is common, and anyone could do this by chance, not even those very unusual people can do this.

Also, they talked and shared the same past life memories from ancient times, the same race even. Yet despite that she wants him to go down as a delusional anime oriented foolish one.

Well I don't think that shows very much integrity myself.

[edit on 20-5-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by ShadowNinja


Speak your truth and share, and always take cautions there are obviously negatives out there to try and distort some visions and things, but.....you have the right stuff, young jedi!
Its all about character.

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by ShadowNinja

 

Yes, you helped her rationalize a belief she already had.

But... did you help her rationalize a spiritual non-alien-involved event relating to spirits, ghosts and deceased relative?

Did you even know about this event? She told me about it in one of our U2Us, and when I've brought up a similar topic before you have shot it down as nonsense, not real, and "lies and the evil dark-siders".

I can only hope Lauren has been following this thread and realizes a vital event in her life, by her admission, has been labeled the work of the evil dark-siders by you.

* because I respect confidentiality, I won't discuss the event Lauren told me *

Yes, he and Unity already know about this. Unity and Shadow, he's referring to the use of the rods, where I spoke to my grandmothers. The time when I asked several things, also questions pertaining to 2012. As I've told you both, I was curious about what my grandmothers had to say about 2012. How they said there was nothing to fear.

I spoke with Unity about it yesterday actually, and we both know that the future is susceptible to change, and if we get to a place where we can help people learn to love, then we have nothing to fear. I remain optimistic, but it's always good to prepare for the worst. Plus, the reasons behind this are endless. The answer can be interpreted many ways. As me and Shadow were saying, it could be because I shouldn't let fear into my life. Fear will not help anyone. It could mean that I may not be among those who die during the chaos. Or it could mean humanity is moving forward. There are many possible reasons for this.

Whenever I feel doubt, I talk to these two. And never are they forcing me to believe anything, but they tell me that I can do what I please and that it's up to me. And then I reflect and think about how much has happened and how I can't let that go. Because at first I tried vehemently to deny things or just label them coincidences, but I can't do that anymore. Because I know in my heart what I've experienced.

Lauren is proof of other things too.
Things you don't accept.
Don't be so quick to place the burden of proof on her.

She's told me she had alien encounters. And I accept that. She's told me of other encounters though, which you wouldn't accept

Not true. Neither Shadow nor Unity have ever told me that it's impossible to have spoken with my grandmothers. Actually, I told Shadow that while I was using these rods, I felt the energy of my grandmother. An overpowering sense of love.

The only other time I've definitely felt an energy and presence before was the incident with the peeping tom alien in my room, lol. Anyways, I received great encouragement from Shadow about this because he was proud that I could feel the presence and the energy. Neither of them have discredited this.

Don't try and pass the blame, Shadow.
You're the ringleader, step up and put your proof on display

I do sincerely believe I am proof of what they are saying. I think it's easier for me, because I'd had the intuition before hand. Therefore, I would naturally be the perfect tester for them. And obviously it's worked for me. Therefore, for you, you are more reluctant on this particular, specific belief, which I believe is why you haven't had experiences.


[edit on 20-5-2010 by LaurenVirgo]

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I dont beleive the same negative message others get. There may be things goign to happen, and it could be earthquakes and waves, who knows, but.....we are to be positive, and to hold light and shifts and changes and freedom from NWO and negative ETs over this planet, that is my message I feel strongly about it. And to wake up and try to get people more aware, loving , peace orieented, and independent from the grid, like able to grow food, provide some energy and be stronger, in any event.

I really think NWO is a big issue here there are so many bad things happening and in third world coutnries, and the Phillipines. Its not all about disasters no matter what.

I often experience my grandfather and now my grandmother watching over, by the way. Many people receive messages from their loved ones.

[edit on 20-5-2010 by Unity_99]

Nah I will stay and just ignore scribe whats the use.

Hahaha I just got a light going of inside my head

Need to make a video.

[edit on 21-5-2010 by ShadowNinja]

After seeing the torrent of 4+ page posts, I feel I should reiterate how important it is to keep this thread of discussion concise and to the point.

We're not writing a book here, and most of us don't have time to read such huge responses.

If ShadowNinja or his disciples have proof of any sort, just one proof will do, and that one proof should take no longer than a few paragraphs, maybe a video or photo or two. Not multiple pages of scattered topics.

BOTTOM LINE:

SN has made claims of authority, claims that directly challenge the knowledge and expertise of people well versed in various areas of study. For SN to be right and us to be wrong, I think its fair to ask for proof beyond someones personal experiences.

Example: The fact that someone got some happy, warm and fuzzy results out of SNs teachings is not proof enough to convince us to throw away all we know in favor of SNs Alien agenda theories.

reply to post by ac500


What proof do you want???

Do you have energy recognition???

Hmmm maybe you could try and do what I am asking people to do politely. Basically giving my technique a go and see what happens.

How about it???

Love and Light.

reply to post by ac500


Can you stop calling hinting me as a Gods Messenger and the people I helped are not my disciples cause the bottom line is.

This is not a religion and I do not go around ordering people that I helped how to live their life. I just merely nudge them how to wake up that is all.

So please stop making it a cult.

Also thanks you finally understand that this is not some old hoax novel or book. I really appreciate this.

Love and Light as always.

reply to post by ac500


Seriously, I don't recall him actually asking you to change your mind about anything, for its truly his sharing his experiences, and meant for those who are ready, have stirrings in them, nudges, for we are a team that comes down and each family member's light inspires us, at the right time, in the right moment, for those who truly want to.

You don't seem to be in that category, so please find another thread and reread my posts, because he shows great character and is only being truly + for sharing, however, a few of you are showing just how - your stripes are.

While he shares and allows others to see what exists out of the box, and encourages they look within themselves, and push the limits on their consciousness, if its not your thing, find something else that is.

But being a bully doesnt look good on you.

edit to add:

"I feel I should reiterate how important it is to keep this thread of discussion concise and to the point."

Really, its amazing how you expect SN to change the discussion topic and expects us to post short answers for him so he can be satisfied as a mere reader.
Unbelievable! Nope, go write your own thread up, but note you cant control others posts.

Maybe it should have said:

Please don't make long posts I don't have time being here trying to make you look like a fool because I have many other people I'm working on out there

And quit going on about all of your experiences and only discuss what I want and make it short.

Its not going to go that way,


[edit on 21-5-2010 by Unity_99]

Originally posted by Unity_99
Seriously, I don't recall him actually asking you to change your mind about anything, for its truly his sharing his experiences, and meant for those who are ready, have stirrings in them, nudges, for we are a team that comes down and each family member's light inspires us, at the right time, in the right moment, for those who truly want to.

See, this is a good example of the kind of negative, very dark attitude Ive been seeing in SN, you, etc. You realize, don't you, that by saying this, you're telling me, Wandering Scribe, woodwytch, etc. that we do not have stirrings, and we are not ready for this? If really know who these people are, maybe you'll realize the magnitude of how offensive and wrong this is.

So yes, I'm asking you what not to say. Im asking you to stop accusing us of being unenlightened because we don't believe in your claims, (to SN) to show us why we should believe him above other more substantial paranormal/ET theories, and to please do it in less than 500 pages.

And no Im not posting on any other internet forums at the moment, Im just busy and cant read volumes of tangential posts.

Thank you.

[edit on 21-5-2010 by ac500]

reply to post by ac500


There is no one posting anything dark here, except for you and one other. Twisting it around doesn't make you look more positive, it shows you're manipulative as well.

Obviously you're not going to immediately see the "darkness" in yourself if you haven't already.

Did you even read why I said that? Do you realize who you're telling is "unenlightened"?

I think I'm done here. I can only hope that rational people will see ShadowNinja's delusion for what it truly is, and that SN sees a mental doctor some time who helps him.

[edit on 21-5-2010 by ac500]

reply to post by ac500


mental doctor hahahaha nope I do not see one

You just made me laugh my bum off and reminded me of this guy I use to know. He came around eventually anyway

Hi Ac500,

reply to post by ac500

SN has made claims of authority, claims that directly challenge the knowledge and expertise of people well versed in various areas of study.

You mean to tell me that a 17 year old in the gray area of a conspiracy forum sharing his experiences did all that? Wow I'm amazed and more power to Shadow Ninja. I'm sure he is honored that so many would actually be so challenged by what he has to share and feel threatened by some of the content in his posts.

I mean some of you seem to be taking this so very seriously.

Perhaps someone should be asking themselves why and how could something posted by a 17 year old in a gray area of a conspiracy forum affect them so greatly? Does the problem lie within the words of a 17 year old sharing his experiences or those following along reading that seem to be disturbed and affected by the content of his posts?

If the intentions of someone were to simply disagree with what is being written then wouldn't they simply post their disagreement and be on their way?

If the intentions of someone were more than just a disagreement of the material being presented with another agenda then they probably wouldn't go away but would continue going after this 17 year old sharing his experiences in the gray area of a conspiracy forum.

For SN to be right and us to be wrong, I think its fair to ask for proof beyond someones personal experiences.

How many people out there believe in what you believe?

May 21, 2010, the human population of the world is estimated by the United States Census Bureau to be 6,822,200,000.


Take your pick,

How many out there believe in what you believe?

I think its fair to ask for proof beyond someones personal experiences.

Have fun seeking proof beyond people's personal beliefs and experiences out of the roughly 6.8 billion people in the world.

I'm sure you can find thousands of websites out there that are actually full blown websites that go against what you believe in. I'm sure there are at the very least hundreds of other ATS threads and posters on this site alone that go against what you believe in, yet here you are choosing to gang up on a 17 year old sharing his personal experiences in the gray area of a conspiracy forum.

From what I've observed it appears that Wandering Scribe has done nothing but flood this thread with negativity and here you are ac500. Does it make you feel good inside going after a 17 year old sharing his experiences in the gray area of a conspiracy forum? Do you get your kicks?

Do you have any other hobbies?

Example: The fact that someone got some happy, warm and fuzzy results out of SNs teachings is not proof enough to convince us.

Warm happy fuzzy feelings are always good things to have don't you think?
Let's take another look at the various beliefs/religions of the world, people are baptized and converted all the time over reading religious bibles/books, praying and receiving warm fuzzy feelings.

Some people go on intuition and go with the flow of those so called warm fuzzy feelings.

May 21, 2010, the human population of the world is estimated by the United States Census Bureau to be 6,822,200,000.


You minds well start working on dismantling each religion piece by piece. I'm sure they would love to hear from you and Scribe and the rest of everyone that is simply out to help people not fall for believing in something based merely on personal experiences, faith or warm fuzzy feelings.

My hat goes off to Shadow Ninja and I would tell him to follow his heart.

It's his life to live not someone else's and he must experience life and learn for himself in his own way. Regardless if Shadow Ninja is right or wrong he is on his own path and you are on your own path and if your path includes ganging up on a 17 year old sharing personal experiences in the gray area of a conspiracy forum so be it.

That's your choice, that's your energy signature.

What you put out to others you can only expect back because you're the one choosing to treat others in such a way and are ultimately asking for it.

The law of intention-thought attraction and consequence to action will answer.

"What you do unto others you've only done unto yourself."

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

If I was in Shadow Ninja's shoes I would not want to be treated the way some of you have disrespectfully and rudely treated him. Regardless if he is right or wrong or if he is at that age of believing in something different. Let a person believe what they want to believe and I'm not saying that Shadow Ninja is right or wrong, I'm merely saying let it be if you disagree.

From my observation Shadow Ninja has shown patience, tolerance, diligence and kindness being considerate of others when posting. That shows a lot about his true character and regardless if he is right or wrong in his own personal beliefs or not he has qualities to keep that more people could use in this world.

Shadow Ninja keep up the good spirit and it's very clear where your heart is my brother, Love & Light to you.


To the rest of everyone-1.
(Everyone-1 included no exceptions)
Love & Peace!
Best Wishes!
Best Dreams!

[edit on 21-5-2010 by ET_MAN]