My expiriences from 10 and up

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A strange error just happened posting, maintenance one popped up and I lost this post. I think I should carefully reword this in case it was not maintenance.

I feel there are different groups involved and basically just got a message that I can't post, that relates to my experiences, and how its not the same Vrill group.

Here we have a large number of sleepers, or people who are seen as co-creators of this negative world, not just because they are mind controlled to obey, but some intrinsic choices are made to endorse this system of law, and scarsity, something that isn't waking up by choice. So some of the things that happen here, are permitted, because there is free will, and this is a planet where lessons are taking place, non-the-less, there is not acceptance or embracing the negative by this other group, for they are beyond this level in their society and advanced. I can't say more now.

OK, to find out what I can say. In your childhood memories, of that "team" male and females, did they wear capes? Did you think of them as ETs or astrals?

Does the name or word (for its is both a star and a name) Rigel, mean something to you? You also show signs of having a compartment that you cant access the info much, and my other friend like you, though much more mature, sometimes similar information just pours out of him, (you know the one with the dragon association, and adromedan, and also atlantian memories).

With him, he wasn't exactly blocked, because if you asked the right question, or hit on an area related to a memory, it would dislodge, but not only would it come to him, but others as well, as if widening the information. So a long list of experimental questions, might help, but for some reason really feeling agitated now, so I think I've reached the limit of what I can ask here.

So and additional question, do you have any memories of the moon, the bases there, the groups there? When did miltia begin to combine activities there? Has that ended or has it increased? Those questions may pop something out.

edit to add: I just noticed a thread about maintenance error. Still have rethought adding what I had written in the first post.






[edit on 15-5-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Firstly they would not make proper contact after the hell you give people with real experiences . For now.

Secondly you doubt things too much as you demonstrated in many ways before.

Thirdly the way you approach things counts as well.

Fourthly it is also the way you ask for contact and the way you react towards them.

Fifthly The MOST IMPORTANT thing they will visit you and make contact when you are ready. Not when you think you are ready but when they think you are.

Things happen for a reason but first change must happen within you to let the truth in. Doubt at times clouds the truth and those that doubt mostly call real experiencing people delusional, crazy, mental illness also many other things. I been through it all the judgment that has been passed onto me for the last 1-2 years. Yet the funny things when you help people and they experience. So much changes in them and through the truth they see the purpose also the importance. Just by simply accepting and understanding one another inside can go such a long way.

For it is that light that grows within us and guides us towards the truth but importantly who we truly are. So I will say again there are no tricks, no lies, no hoax, no cult, no religion and no forcing. But simply pure love,light, understanding, help, acceptance and growth to realizing who we truly are as a human race. For that is my purpose to show to people and to help them in this world. My way is just to share experiences and give a helping hand also a nudge in the right direction to people. Who are awake, sleeping also still searching and thus that little help can go a long way.

If you have anythings against that shoot me then because I will do this as long as I am on this planet.

For Humanity
For ETs
For Angels
For Light
For Darkness
For the whole Universe and all others.

For we are all united as whole family of pure understanding and light within us all. Even though some are lost in the dark I will shine that Light and Love to my brothers also sisters for they are my family of Light. No matter who they are and for I will lay down my life for them just to assure that they will have a better future. This is who I am a messenger of Light and so are the others too. This is my Ninjutsu and this is the way I do it also the way I am.

Love and Light to all my brothers also sisters and friend for we are a INFINITE Family Of Light. For you are never alone and we feel each other with our hearts for we are in each others hearts. We will be together no matter what and thus we are family united under our infinite love.

Love and Light to all.

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Really good post, I don't read most of what he writes, if his opening begins by being too negative. Don't need any abuse, refuse to allow myself to experience it even. So my post was in answer to just his first few lines which set the feel of his whole answer.

So little yet so much to give, to love , to understand and to see.



[edit on 15-5-2010 by ShadowNinja]

Hey these two videos make me think of you last summer then this year:


Naruto, Animal I have become

and


Naruto Amv - Adam Lambert - What do you want from me

Great songs and great videos. I have to say I like Naruto. And Inuyasha too.

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My way is just to share experiences and give a helping hand also a nudge in the right direction to people

How do you know it's the right way?
Prove to me that your way is the only way.



1. It's unfortunate that you consider the whole of my person to be exemplified by my reactions to your sketchy claims; and your oft times unsupported hypotheses.

My experience, guidance, and knowledge has been serving as a well spring for hundreds; while it is only you Shadow, and Unity as well, who see me as an "unenlightened cretin" because I choose to challenge your unsupported beliefs.

You get the hell, because you ask for it by being too stubborn to display anything other than your own opinion as die-hard fact; in the face of less-accepted theories with mountains of evidence.

Mirror, mirror on the wall... how shiny you are.

2. Doubt is essential to all manner of belief. A man who does not doubt believes in everything; and knows nothing for sure. True wisdom is not gained through blind, naive belief; but through tried and true understanding, and experience.

Your sagely side is hardly on display thus far into the post, Shadow.

3. I approach everything with an open, but skeptical, mind. You have a claim, I have an ear. I'd like to see what supports your claim, but if you refuse to submit any evidence, then I have no choice but to deny your unsupported claims. It's a simple, logical approach.

4. I ask for contact simply, and in a straight-forward manner. Here I am, come say hi to me. My "reaction" towards them is one of skeptical curiosity. When one finally says "hi" then the skepticism will fall away from that curiosity.

5. This point is a major cop-out, Shadow.

Unity clearly stated you were originally dark, evil and negative. Possibly suicidal and living in an abusive home. How is that the "appropriate" time and place to tell someone they're a demi-god?

You weren't "ready". You and Unity have even stated, numerous times on this thread, that you're not ready, but are just rolling with the punches as you make them up.

Things happen for a reason but first change must happen within you to let the truth in

Change has come, change has been, and I have changed. A truth, but possibly not the truth, has set it's seeds to fallow inside me. It is you who discards any experience not your own as "not the truth". The closed minds are your own, not mine.

Doubt at times clouds the truth and those that doubt mostly call real experiencing people delusional, crazy, mental illness also many other things

Doubt clouds no mind, it is what truly frees us. If we cannot doubt ourselves, we cannot know what is real, from what is a delusion. Without doubt, everything goes.

I been through it all the judgment that has been passed onto me for the last 1-2 years

I've had trials too. It's called life. I didn't need to invent aliens to make myself seem more masculine though. Simple human evil was all that I needed. Man is the worst this universe has to offer, we're the only sentient evil in the Universe.

Just by simply accepting and understanding one another inside can go such a long way

I understand what is "inside" you, Shadow. And I'm showing you another way. Drop the charade and make something of yourself through real trials and tribulations.

So I will say again there are no tricks, no lies, no hoax, no cult, no religion and no forcing

I beg to differ. You've got a message, which you believe is the only right way. That's a cult, and a religion, and it's a forceful motion to conform those around you.

Is it a lie, a hoax, or a trick? Possibly. I believe it to be so. But I wait ever-patient for you to prove to me otherwise.

simply pure love,light, understanding, help, acceptance and growth to realizing who we truly are as a human race

Humans are animals. We're nothing special. We're just a sack of meat and blood with an electrical charge running through our power cords. Some of us think on a higher level than others, some of us are better workers, better speakers, better listeners and more. Our individuality makes us unique, not our "alien ancestry" which does not exist.



Such a shame you think I'd shoot you for preaching your own message. Good sir, I may think you're full of $#!*, but I will defend to the death your right to say whatever you want.

Our crossed words are only of an intellectual and logical level. Not a soulful, brotherly level. I think your message is full of crap, but I'm pretty sure a cognizant, thinking, brain is buried somewhere in that skull of yours.

All the sins committed
In the three worlds
Will fade and disappear
Together with myself

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
Have you paid attention to Shadow and Unity on this thread when I was here the first time? They stole every religious experience they could (chakras, meditation, the Archangel Michael, and more) and attributed it to extra-terrestrial origins.

Forgive me if any of this is incoherent. I am drowsy as hell today. Saying that they're "stealing" anything seems to be a tad judgmental. What is meditation? It it is a way of making the mind still, calming yourself. It really isn't crazy considering what is trying to be accomplished. Which is gaining memories and becoming more connected to our Higher Selves, our Star Family, which is within us, because we are infinite.

As for the bit about the Archangel Michael, how do you know this is false?

That is what I am waiting for. Not necessarily on a global scale though.

Look at this thread alone, three people have "made contact" - you in just 2 weeks - I wouldn't need them to go on live television and say so. Just come and drop me a note. You know?

If they're really in charge of everything, why is it too much to ask for them to say "Yeah, you're right, we're here and running things. Thanks for asking"?

Lol. Well, as Shadow said, it could be they feel you're not ready for it. Maybe you're not meant to have this confirmation yet. None of us can possibly know for sure what the intention would be behind holding back on you. But my experiences happened due to faith in this particular belief.

Panspermia is the belief that life originated somewhere else in the Universe, and crash-landed here on Earth on some kind of meteor which crashed into us.

Biogensis is the belief that life has been manufactured. As in, we're the creations of some god, or the product of some kind of cosmic magick.

Panspermic biogensis - a term I've coined - therefore, is a combination of the two. Some alien life-form created us somewhere else, and brought us here for whatever purpose they had.

Lol. Thanks for clearing that up.

So you're suggesting this alien race would have advanced interstellar travel and cloaking abilities? So advanced that the constant SETI radio-waves we're reverberating into the abyss of space don't somehow bounce off of their ship, or the meteor?

Again, this is a wild belief. I will however, patiently await my imminent demise.

No one needs a tour of the camp, just Google Earth it and show me it.

Well, what I'm basically saying is that they really can't be underestimated. We have yet to see the full extent of their knowledge, and for all we know, advanced interstellar travel and cloaking abilities isn't all that wild. Not to me at least. And ETs in general seem to know how to stay off the radar.

Google Earth? I'm not sure as to what the common visions of a location would be for this. But my first thought is that if someone is having a vision of these events taking place, I'm not sure it'd be so specific they'd be able to pinpoint it on Google Earth. Seems a bit much to ask.

The problem is that no one can be considered to have actually seen something, unless they can explain it in detail, and date it.

Okay, but why would all these visions be arising now? It really seems as though something big is around the corner. And they're visions. Visions. Not direct contact in which communication flows and questions can be answered. Things will not always be crystal clear. And there are dates for these things. I've heard that in the fall of 2011, there will be an occurrence and that in 2012, and years following, there will be as well.

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
Higher Self is a check. I've been developing my Higher Self (Body of Light, etc) for more than a decade now.

Family of Light, by another name. I believe in the Avatar-cum-Goddess who spared me and gave me my second chance. That's the closest to an "alien" family I've got.

I've had several missions here. I've failed and succeeded in varying degrees on all of those missions.

Past Lives (reincarnation as we call it) is a staple belief in my system of beliefs. So I do have that one for sure.

Regaining memories... I don't necessarily regain them myself, but I find the people whom I had once shared them with. And we make new memories.

Yes, but your belief system is a bit different though...It could be the specifics of what you're feeling and thinking.

I can understand some knee-jerk idiot not getting contact 'cause he's a smarmy skeptic just looking to embarrass others. It's unfortunate that those of us who are skeptical for other reasons are seemingly considered the same as them by your alien friends.

This thread is neither the time, nor place, for me to discuss the sacrificial nature of my life. But suffice it to say that "selfless" is an understatement to my disposition.

I wouldn't say that. No one is judging you or just filing you under any category. But I was just using this as an example that it requires more than just wanting for it. But obviously, you say you have been trying many things. But as I said before, it could be the specifics of what you feel and believe.

My whole point in being here is the "advancement of the people" by dispelling ignorance and seeking the truth.

Well, I'd be careful about saying that because claiming you're dispelling ignorance is almost...ignorant, lol.

Read her response to me earlier where she said that not just one, but two beings worked on her frontal lobe. The first doing so incorrectly, and the second physically altering it. If you mess up the frontal lobe, you alter the aspects I mentioned. Just go learn something about the frontal lobe and realize how easy it is to alter this lobe, and how frequently psychological disorders of this lobe occur because of things like being Trepanned and lobotomies.

I wasn't trying to be rude or offensive in my original response. Frontal lobe irregularities are very, very common. And all kinds of culturues and people cause them by experimenting with the frontal lobe without proper techniques.

Her ideas and beliefs are mostly borrowed or lifted from others. It's very, very easy for anyone to take the words of someone else, find importance in them, and spread a Gospel; regardless of their psychological state.

And then form the exact same belief system as many others? Until you do official testing on her, you can't say anything final this. I mean, really. Everything, absolutely everything is wrong? Including everything she has experienced with others?

Love as an important element is a big part of Thelema and Qabala and Christianity and Hermetics. All of which significantly predate Unity.

Meditation is as old as India. India I believe is older than Unity.

Aliens are as old as Biblical times. Unless Unity is older than Jesus... well, you get the point.

Yes, aliens are old. Aliens have been around for a while. Obviously if aliens created us all, then the idea of love predates all of your examples. And no one here is trying to create a super religion, if that's at all what you're implying. This is what has been felt and seen.

Forgive me if any of this is incoherent. I am drowsy as hell today. Saying that they're "stealing" anything seems to be a tad judgmental. What is meditation

I know what meditation is, and is supposed to achieve. Which is not just internalized calm, but includes a whole host of other goals too. My problem is not that they use it. My problem is that neither Shadow nor Unity will accept that it is not extra-terrestrial in origin, but in fact belongs to the yogis, sages and scribes of India, China and Egypt.

As for the bit about the Archangel Michael, how do you know this is false

This I know, because as a student of history, anthropology, comparative religions, and world mythology we have traced the history of the Archangel Michael backwards through history. From Islam, to Bahai, to Christianity, to Judaism, to Chaldea where he was worshiped as a local deity by a cult-center.

None of us can possibly know for sure what the intention would be behind holding back on you. But my experiences happened due to faith in this particular belief

It's not a lack of faith that keeps them from me. I've worked and summoned all manner of things. So these aliens wouldn't hide because I "don't believe", because I believe in all manner of ethereal, inter-dimensional, and non-earthly beings.

Thanks for clearing that up

You're welcome.

Well, what I'm basically saying is that they really can't be underestimated... ...ETs in general seem to know how to stay off the radar

An ET can easily stay off the radar, they never, ever, seem to get picked up. Except by digital cameras and video cameras and SLR cameras and the human eye, and radars (yes, radars), and TV crews and all other manner of devices.

The only time they're ever "invisible" is when someone says that the occupants have come and given them some special mission, or enlightened them to something. I find that off and peculiar.

And, if somehow they could cloak themselves - good luck cloaking a solid mass of ice and rock (a meteor). Waves of every kind (radiated, electronic, magnetic, even liquid) would bounce off this giant mass.

Google Earth? I'm not sure as to what the common visions of a location would be for this... ...I'm not sure it'd be so specific they'd be able to pinpoint it on Google Earth

Naturally, everyone can see it if they believe in some great powerful being who can guide them from beyond the stars. But the instant that a regular old camera... or a satellite snapping pictures of every square inch of our country tries to find it - it becomes invisible.

Honestly, am I the only one who finds this to be the slightest bit strange?

Okay, but why would all these visions be arising now

Because people want to be important, and feel special. The same reason seers and prophets told Kings in ancient Greece that the gods spoke to them: so someone paid attention and made them feel special.

It really seems as though something big is around the corner

The Mormon Church has predicted - because of visions and signs from god - that the world would end almost once a decade. There used to be a list of every time they'd done so. Just because it "seems" like something should happen, doesn't mean it will.

And they're visions. Visions. Not direct contact in which communication flows and questions can be answered

Exactly. They're visions. If there's no communication, and no questions can be asked - how can you claim anything with certainty about them? You see some dead bodies, maybe it's a really bad car crash - not a meteor hitting us. You see fire from the sky and earth quakes - maybe a volcano erupted, not the end of the world.

Unless someone is feeding information, these visions cannot be deciphered. And if someone is feeding information, then they can be asked questions.

Things will not always be crystal clear

It's unfortunate none of the visions are ever clear. Only the directions for how to live our lives to avoid these unclear visions. Don't you find that interesting?

And there are dates for these things. I've heard that in the fall of 2011, there will be an occurrence and that in 2012, and years following, there will be as well

This is a start then. Now we can wait and see if these vague things (an occurrence in 2011, and something in 2012) come to be. Do you really find such vague prophecy to be worth living your life by?

If I said that in 2013 a thing would happen - would you change your way of life? No way, you'd want proof and an explanation of what that thing was, and when in 2013 it would happen.

It's that old double-standard again. Curse the skeptic for wanting more information, but if the skeptic plays the prophet just as well as the prophet plays god - curse him for his folly.



Anyway, hope you've seen something of my point in this message.

~ Scribe

Yes, but your belief system is a bit different though...It could be the specifics of what you're feeling and thinking

Understandable. However, if I need to believe exactly as Unity or Shadow do - how is that different from the cult mentality, or the religious mentality?

I wouldn't say that. No one is judging you or just filing you under any category.

I appreciate that you're not doing this. On this board though I have been called:

• Black Ops
• Evil Government Dark-Sider
• Zeta Reticulan alien
• Reptilian
• Some kind of Dark Energy sorcerer

And more. Unity and Shadow are very, very quick to jump on the "demonize our enemies" band wagon. So, thanks for not doing so. Shows a higher mental capacity in you, than in them.

Well, I'd be careful about saying that because claiming you're dispelling ignorance is almost...ignorant

Fair enough. I should rephrase that: I'm dispelling unproven claims, without substantiating evidence - in favor of uncovering little-know, but still provable claims with substantiating evidence.

And then form the exact same belief system as many others... ...Everything, absolutely everything is wrong? Including everything she has experienced with others

Not that "everything" is wrong. There are legitimate things in the beliefs being presented: alien life could exist, meditation is healthy for you, spiritual activities are fulfilling, etc.

Where I draw the line is that her and Shadow attempt to direct people a particular way - utilizing these techniques to further their own agendas.

As for group experiences: mob-mentality is a common shared-delusion. However, not being a psychologist I won't diagnose anything beyond obvious aspects (like Trepannation and intentional non-surgical frontal lobe alterations being dangerous).

Yes, aliens are old. Aliens have been around for a while

First off, mankind - Homo Sapiens - as a species are 10 million years old. That's million. Not thousand, hundred, hundred-thousand, but million. Who says we're not just as old as some alien form of life?

Obviously if aliens created us all, then the idea of love predates all of your examples

Back to the point though - Love is an emotion, a chemical response to the action of nurturing. Nurturing is an evolutionary action that sustained our species. By nurturing - loving - important offspring we furthered out species. By neglecting to nurture - love - unworthy offspring we removed negative traits from the gene pool.

As I said, love is a chemical response to an evolutionary action. It is only as old as the evolutionary actions of maternal caring and paternal protection are.

And no one here is trying to create a super religion, if that's at all what you're implying. This is what has been felt and seen

I am aware that a "super religion" is not the designated goal. But, the inclusion of religious practices and icons, mixed with the guided teachings and dogmatic principles to live by in order to attain these unearthly rewards, coupled with beliefs, supernatural forces and unsubstantiated mythological hierarchies and cosmologies Unity and Shadow have created a cult/religious belief system whether they wanted to, or not.

~ Scribe

I jumped to calling you those things on the way of your actions also after realizing what you truly think humans are. If you think we are a raw peace of meat and nothing special then my friend you have a long way to go. As you quoted before so no returning there and you have a long way to go sense one of your true colors showed.

Im here to help and do what is right also what I came here to do as my assignments, tasks, missions and tests. This is why I am here to teach and show the true ways of who we are also help people wake up. Yet most of the time you turn my claims of help into a driven 17 year old warlock hunt. Wanting to burn me down because Im different. The delusional and crazy also religious claims are always hinted at me in most of your posts. Even though I clearly am not and have stated many times before as well. So I guess you have not changed one bit and thus many questions are answered here. Are you here to pray on a 17 year old who has strong contacts and experiences??? OR
Are you here to listen and learn maybe even realize with you skeptic mind that you are wrong??

You want my proof around 2 people on my thread and many off are real true walking proof and if this is not enough to finally convince you. Then there is no reason for me to help you because you will take a long long time to change. Even though I must accept you as a brother of Light I will but I shall be patient and wait for you on the fence to pull you over. When you will be ready and I shall be waiting take your time no rush. We have infinite amount of time and yet at the same time you must decide.

Will you keep playing these crazy blame games or will you mature enough and become the true you like you were around 10 000 years ago. Cause now you are just a mere child that needs to start growing up.

Love and Light as always my friend I will wait for you on the fence to give you the helping hand to climb over.

Big hug and a warm hello.

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SO you saying a religious belief system me and Unity created. Firstly did you hit your head with a bible when you got up today

Secondly so if ETs teach you their ways of love, light, understanding and caring for others also everything around us. Is it a belief system??? ETs do no have religion my friend so how in this day and age can you say its a religion.

Thirdly can I please slap you silly and pour some cold water on you to wake you up.

You really need to understand we are all not human none of us are and those that are already have advanced greatly in dimensional plains of life.

Honestly sometimes you remind me of a guy I know that said we are alone in the universe. I just slapped palmed my face going "Oh My Goodness".

Mate open your eyes wider and think that I, Unity also many others are telling the truth. So now you are wondering why you do not get contact.

Let us take Lauren for example she advanced so quickly just by simply accepting things. While you do not and look in a skeptical way at everything thus doubt you are. You need to let go and at least try to chill also go with the flow. Instead of your strict skeptic way of tensing up and judging everything that has happened to you also other people as well. Just relax and take your time. Baby steps and then walking and then flying my friend. You are not even crawling yet and you ask why they do not contact you. Take a chill pill and go with the flow.

Lauren knows what I mean about the relax/ chill part

Love and Light mate and remember always here to help you climb over the fence to give a helping hand

Amazing I found something about my people Finally and thus the teachings also knowledge I been giving to people on ATS. Time for people to wake up.





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Part 2 is the most amazing one some one close to me spoke through the woman. The one that spoke through her name is El'ia'na she is a close friend from my home.

[edit on 16-5-2010 by ShadowNinja]

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I jumped to calling you those things on the way of your actions also after realizing what you truly think humans are

Humans are part of the animal kingdom. Homo Sapien is our species. We're just animals with a slightly larger brain, capable of completing a few more higher-reasoning tasks.

If you think we are a raw peace of meat and nothing special then my friend you have a long way to go

Walk up the Alps with nothing but the shirt on your back and live for a month. Dive into the ocean without scuba gear, submerge several clicks and stay down for an hour. Leap from a skyscraper and try to fly. Walk/run on top of water. You can't do any of those.

Want to know what can do all of that? Animals. Other "not a human" animals, which you so begrudgingly degrade since "humans are the special ones". You have a lot to learn about Homo Sapiens and our abilities, compared to those of "animals".

As you quoted before so no returning there and you have a long way to go sense one of your true colors showed

This confuses me, please elaborate on what you mean here.

The delusional and crazy also religious claims are always hinted at me in most of your posts. Even though I clearly am not and have stated many times before as well

Let's play a fun game of find where Shadow makes religious claims. I bet I can find at least 2 in this very post.

I'm here to help and do what is right

This is why I am here to teach and show the true ways of who we are also help people wake up

1, and 2. Here you go Shadow, religious scripture quoted for your benfit:

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - Jesus Christ. John 14:6

My "religion/cult" senses are tingling.

Yet most of the time you turn my claims of help into a driven 17 year old warlock hunt

I only hunt down liars, scam artists, con men and cheapskates. If you feel like my wrath is coming down on you, it's probably because some part of your spiel here is dishonest.

So I guess you have not changed one bit and thus many questions are answered here

Consistency is just as vital to healthy living as spontaneity. If I changed every single thing about myself, every time I did anything, I would be a dishonest person. Instead, I have values, morals, beliefs, ethics and characteristics I stick to adamantly.

Perhaps you should reconsider yourself, since you change everything up all the time. No consistency in you, or your stories. It's unfortunate that you believe such is the road to truth.

Are you here to pray on a 17 year old who has strong contacts and experiences

I'm here to uncover the truth.

Are you here to listen and learn maybe even realize with you skeptic mind that you are wrong

My skeptical mind requires proof of all your claims. Once supplied my mind would change.

You want my proof around 2 people on my thread and many off are real true walking proof and if this is not enough to finally convince you. Then there is no reason for me to help you because you will take a long long time to change

Someone's story about having been visited by aliens is not proof. No offense Lauren or Unity. Proof is you, showing the aliens for all the world to see whenever they see fit.

If 2 people saying they had experiences constituted proof - Shadow, you should get Lauren and Unity, go to the white house and demand that Washington acknowledge the existence of the Elohim race.

Why haven't you done this? After all, "proof" to you means anyone else with just as ridiculous a story as your own. Again, no offense intended Lauren or Unity.

Will you keep playing these crazy blame games or will you mature enough and become the true you like you were around 10 000 years ago

I have blamed no one, at any time, in this entire thread.

Here is a list of all the people and things you, Unity, and others on this thread have blamed:

• Zeta Reticulans
• Greys
• Black Ops
• The Government
• Organized religion
• Cults and religious sects
• The Occult
• The New World Order
• FEMA
• Musicians
• Evil Government Dark-siders
• The Knights Templar
• Government Surveillance Units
• Dark Magicians

Probably more that I have forgotten too. But, proof to the point - you play the blame game at least once a day. While I sit here and wait for the mature reality to take form in you. The mature reality being: show me the aliens, admit you're lying, or show me proof of any one of your claims.



You shouldn't discard a child's intelligence so readily. Just because we're young does not mean we're not up-to-par, or better than those generations beyond us. Ageism is a sad, sad thing.

Ever seen a 70 year old man try to use a computer? How about a 20 year old kid? Yeah, something funny happens when you look at that example. The elderly know less and less.

You just keep waiting on that fence, Shadow. I won't be climbing over it, I'll be tearing it down to let the whole world see what's really waiting behind it.

~ Scribe

reply to post by ShadowNinja


1. Nah, when I woke up yeaterday I read a bit more of a novel, at a bowl of cereal for breakfast, went to work, came home and tore apart your posting.

2. I'm not even going to bother this time. I've shown you the "supernatural power" you idolize. I've shown you the "our way or the highway" mentality you apply to your teachings. I've shown you the icons, idols, rites and practices you've lifted from religious doctrine.

Your eyes are tightly sealed shut, as are your ears. This is not my problem.

3. Finally accepted you can't prove your claims, eh? Going to resort to violence and bullying now I see.

You really need to understand we are all not human none of us are and those that are already have advanced greatly in dimensional plains of life

And you need to prove this beyond all reasonable doubt.

Honestly sometimes you remind me of a guy I know that said we are alone in the universe. I just slapped palmed my face going "Oh My Goodness"

Except I don't believe we're alone in the Universe. So invalid point is invalid.

Mate open your eyes wider and think that I, Unity also many others are telling the truth. So now you are wondering why you do not get contact

Put yourself in my shoes. I've tried doing what you claim will work. It doesn't. So I ask you to show me that it does, since it didn't for me. You don't even try to help.

You're quite the pitiful "guide", since you won't demonstrate your methods work when a student tries and get's no results.

Here, I'll be the teacher now:

ShadowNinja, did you know that if you hold your hand in an open flame for 20 minutes, it won't get burned if you stand on your left foot only?

Now, you go stand on your left foot and burn your hand. When you come back and say that it didn't work, instead of showing you it does, I'll just say "that's because the evil government dark-siders have corrupted your mind, and you need to just try harder"

Wouldn't you be upset?

Let us take Lauren for example she advanced so quickly just by simply accepting things. While you do not and look in a skeptical way at everything thus doubt you are. You need to let go and at least try to chill also go with the flow

Read my posts with her. I did try your method, with an honest intent. It didn't work.



I concede though. You're a liar, and a scam artist, and a pitiful cult-leaders-in-the-making. So the only hope for you is prison time when someone finally get's themselves killed trying to contact these non-existent aliens through more and more extreme means.

personally i think your rather crazy, you honestly think you can make a ball of energy like in dragon ball z (thats the only anime i can think of since im much too old for that), considering your icon is of dragon ball z, i think you may just be a bit too much into the whole anime thing. it's a cartoon.

Wow, lots happening here since the return of Wandering Scribe! Glad I stopped by. Now listen ShadowNinja, as a lifelong fan of subjects like this, there is nobody who would like to believe that such things are real more than me. However mate, after reading through some of the comments from you and others, I have to ask about a couple of things again.

Originally posted by ShadowNinja
reply to post by Wandering Scribe

 

You really need to understand we are all not human none of us are and those that are already have advanced greatly in dimensional plains of life.

I'm totally confused here. First you say that we are ALL not human and then say basically that those of who are human have advanced ... Which is it. Are you saying that all the 'humans' here on Earth are not really human. This is just 'crazy' in it's entirity. Please tell me WHY would beings who are tens or hundreds of thousands of years old all be here on Earth trapped in Human bodies, not knowing who they are, what they can do or why they are here. THIS is advanced intelligence. hmmmmm

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by ShadowNinja

 

Put yourself in my shoes. I've tried doing what you claim will work. It doesn't. So I ask you to show me that it does, since it didn't for me. You don't even try to help.

You're quite the pitiful "guide", since you won't demonstrate your methods work when a student tries and get's no results.

Here, I'll be the teacher now:

ShadowNinja, did you know that if you hold your hand in an open flame for 20 minutes, it won't get burned if you stand on your left foot only?

Now, you go stand on your left foot and burn your hand. When you come back and say that it didn't work, instead of showing you it does, I'll just say "that's because the evil government dark-siders have corrupted your mind, and you need to just try harder"

Wouldn't you be upset?

In my opinion the is the best example of ShadowNinja's teaching method. He has told me and some others who posted here looking for help that we should just relax, listen to music, meditate, be open to love and light etc in the most generic terms imaginable. Then when no results are obtained, he and his 'followers' just say to be patient and try harder. The teacher blaming the student for not trying hard enough or not being ready instead of offering SPECIFIC instructions on how to succeed = TOTAL FAIL.

ShadowNinja do you have a normal life? I mean do you go to school, have a part time job? Are you planning for your 'future' on this Earth as a normal human or will your super powers suddenly kick in and you won't have any need for money, eating etc. I'm not asking just to be an arse but I'm really fascinated by this. Once you are awakened what do you do then? If you find out and awaken to the fact that you are an Elohim, what then? Do you just sit around and meditate about love and light all day? How can you ever be content again knowing that you are of some 'super race'? Working at McDonald's just won't have the same attraction will it?

Well, just wondering. I don't expect any real, coherent answers but what the heck??

edited for spelling

[edit on 16/5/10 by AidanK]

reply to post by AidanK


It works, thats the thing, I on my other thread had u2u's thanking me for this. Though, this is actually the difference in those seeking and any information, sharing that people do, in this case online. And while no ones experiencers are the same, there still are a variety of ways to go within and connect. The method I do is zen mind, easy, natural, uses music and hemisync, and nature and sungazing and doesnt require special training or breathing. Others have different methods. Though the one I compiled tends to work overall.

Skeptics who come on with a negative agenda are not seekers, do they even understand what yearning for a wonderful equal world without starvation, homelessness, wars, money, and banks is? Do they know or feel a need to raise their frequency and recognize this occurring? People who are spirtually, metaphysically, intuitvely, philisophically even, positive and sensitives, recognize the feelings of higher vibrations, experience rushes and ringing in their ears in meditation, notice that joy, happiness and kindness does this to them as well, and look to feel inspired by other people sharing. They actually activate themselves from others shining their lights and experiences, and we kind of do this as a team, which is why write and share our experiences.

Those who come onto these kind of threads, to put them down, call them delusional, accuse them of religions and the entire very routine, very overdone and repeated campaign to stomp out the way to freedom, either because they're working for controllers, or because they're not free inside themselves are not usually the same kind of people who are seeking and experiencing, and nudging others.

Again, its up to you to seek, its also up to you to go within your own hearts, or while sungazing, and ask some questions of your Higher Self, Family of Light, Creator, and that is to show you whatever blocks you have to progression, to ask how to love more, to over come self, materialism or any number of things, how to lend a helping hand and do the work you came to do, in additon to Who am I? and Why am I here? And be happy, show gratitude. Keep a journal.



[edit on 16-5-2010 by Unity_99]

Welcome back, AidanK, you've been missed during your absence. Glad to see you've caught up on the hip happenings 'round here.

Shadow and Unity are up to their usual tricks: deceiving the gullible masses with double-talk and generalizations.

A few people have popped in and out to check out the validity of Shadow and Unity's statements (ac500, among others).

Currently, we're attempting to test the validity of Unity and Shadow's chosen techniques for contacting the extra-terrestrial Star Family, a family which we're all somehow a part of.

Myself, and some other members, have experimented with the music-listening, sun-gazing, meditation and general fluff that Unity has posted. Surprisingly, opposite results have been garnered.

Some of us have enjoyed some good music, the nice weather and some good calming sensations - while a minute group of us have made contact with something.

Surprisingly (or not) none of us have developed psychic powers like Shadow said we could.

None of us have had constant alien abductions and tests like Unity has.

And, unsurprisingly, none of us have been stormed, monitored, kidnapped and assaulted by the Black Ops, or the invisible, evil government surveillance Dark-siders.



Welcome back to the thread, and I hope you enjoy your stay in Cloud Cuckoo Land.