My expiriences from 10 and up

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He's not a wickedly proclaimed psychic, he is having expreinces and sharing them, he has energy, but he is also searching and seeking for answers continually, in case you havn't noticed, and that is what its like waking up in this world, for those who question it all and especially for those with experiences, that leads to much questions and a core search for even more answers. I know it was 2 solid years of being pushed nonstop, and reaching out nonstop, and asking many questions and getting swayed by others, seeing things one way, then a more positive way until my energy recognition started recognizing certain people who had the next step, their light activated the right expansinon of memory or direction or thought.

He's an experiencer/seeker brave enough to not care what others think, he is hoping his experiences will help others who may be waking up, though when they connect to their Higher Selves, they're not going to have the same experiences. Not everyone has a testing ground like that.

His experiences remind me of others I've read about who go to this battle ground or something at night, and I am so glad I don't show up there. I would be telling them all to stop behaving like children and shining light. I tell him to set intentions before sleep to not go anywhere like that at night.

[edit on 14-5-2010 by Unity_99]

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Not exactly true. I do believe in extra-terrestrials, and all manner of religious, spiritual and theosophical things. It's a shame people don't read my early posts on this thread. I am quite lucid and clear when I mention I believe, and have had my own experiences.

Oh, well that's good to know. At least it doesn't seem completely loony to you, then.

As I asked Unity, why do religions and mankind's spirituality have to be extra-terrestrial in origin? Why can't man simply be a wondrous and mystifying species all on it's own? What makes us so illiterate that we had to have some kind of extra-terrestrial teach and instruct us?

I've always believed in mankind's inherent ability to do both great good and terrible evil without some external force being responsible for it.

For me, the reason why I feel strongly about that is because of how I'd felt at such a young age. It's not like I had watched movies that would imply things, and my family surely wasn't talking about it.

Well, why wouldn't they lend us a hand? If any of them are are good-hearted beings, I can see why they would want to let us in on a few things. And I happen to think that humans are wondrous! Honestly! I mean look at us.

I think maybe because we had our memories wiped, we lost some of our knowledge and abilities. Which would be why we would need instruction. It's a good question.

If you debated, and won, about religion being alien-orchestrated, then the people you debated must not have had a deep grasp or working knowledge of the religions you discussed. I love to debate about "god is an alien" and such. Sometime we should talk about it.

Do you have any evidence for 2012? I've had similar "prophecies" told to me - see my response to Unity - but never has anyone been able to verify the 2012 prophecies.

Lol. No they didn't know what they were talking about. They were only about 13 years old at the time, lol. Also, I never said I won any of these debates. Usually, I was just too annoyed by them that I would give them a dirty look and walk away. Doesn't really count as winning, lol.

You know, truthfully, how does one ever have proper "evidence" related to such a thing? But obviously there are people who have seen things. Seen visions. And a lot of them are very similar. Disasters, destruction, etc.

BTW, Have you ever heard of Dr. Dan Burisch? Before any of this, I had been watching an interview of him that's about five hours long in total. It's called something along the lines of "Dan Burisch Project Camelot Interviews" on YouTube. He's very believable. A retired microbiologist who used to work for Majestic which dealt with alien relations and such.

I found him pretty intriguing, but I notice now that a good amount of what he said, relates to what is being seen, or is already known. Such as major destruction, billions of people dying, the agenda of the Illuminati.

Please tell me, as close to step-by-step as you can, what you did to receive these visitations. I've been trying using the Unity/Shadow method for a while - as well as other UFOlogists approaches - and have had no luck. It took you 2 weeks, please tell me what you did and I'll see what I'm doing differently.

The main thing I think for me is just believing in it and trusting in it. Possibly if there is doubt in you about the subject then maybe things won't be shown to you. The first experience I had, I hadn't really done anything. Only just accepted the knowledge. And the night following that, I had been trying to communicate directly with them. I asked for the communication and wound up with someone in my room. After that I've just been listening directly to what Shadow and Unity have to say. Anyone can meditate and listen to calming music but for me I believe in my Star Family with all my heart.

Also Scribe, it looks like you have Shadow figured out all wrong. Wickedly proclaimed psychic? He's quite humble, and really just wants to help everyone. I'd take Unity's word on this one. Something tells me she might know him a tad better than you might, lol!

Wicked - adjective

5. Slang, Strikingly good, effective, or skillful: a wicked curve ball; a wicked imitation



Sorry, I sometimes forget I have a much deeper vocabulary then more people, and that I use lesser-known context of words. I'll try not to do this in the future.



Will respond in the morning, you all wrote a lot back.

~ Scribe

Much to do there is and the universe is kicking my butt in to go to New Zealand. Also Scribe you do not know about what I been through and seen with my family. Escaping them would be like paradise for me and yes I will miss them also keep them in my heart. But what matters most I am not influencing anything and the reason is I am being guided. So many pushes and shoves are being shown so I am gonna get the ball rolling as Unity says.

I help people and nothing more or else so if you are here to judge as I have been in so many occasions by skeptics like you. I been through the definition as humans say "Through hell and back". So I do not really care any more because skeptics are just people that do not experience a thing. Then they decide to go and destroy the real people who have experienced things. So what I see skeptics as little kids in the sand box who pray on the weaker kids with better toys. I just do not see the reason for it and I do realize why skeptics at times have no contact at all.

Instead of listening to the people with experiences they go ahead and try to destroy them or force them into things. But what I think they should do is open their hearts and minds to the people with strong contacts. So that they can be open minded without any doubt.

Doubt will get you nowhere my friend it will only cloud the truth within you and it will engulf you in its mist. Take Lauren for example in 1-2 weeks she had such strong contacts and experiences just by simply letting go of doubt.
The general sense of things as to why do we as human beings and ETs on this Earth. Do not realize that we need to wake up together and help each other.


I speak out because I belief that it can help people become more aware and understand to waking up to who they truly are. That is why I am here so no matter what I will never back down to some skeptic who prays on the experiences of others.

We are all as what you say special or what you call me a messenger. Because we all are every single one of us in this world we call Earth and it is merely the matter of waking up to who we are. So please this time around do not call me a Messiah or One special kid.

Love and Light to you Scribe

I do not even care if tomorrow was the day that I died. Because I know I have accomplished a lot in my life. I spoke out about my experiences showing people truth and helping them. I healed one or two people with minor problems and many many more things. I have done what some people would not do because they are too afraid to be judged as a loony. So I think people need to speak out about their experiences and thus if I left Earth tomorrow or today. I would know I built a small step for people to a better world that adds up to a stair case that will lead to a brighter future.

So I will always keep giving and share my experiences with people no matter what. I now realize I am being called to New Zealand for a reason so I will go and that is the things that I must do. Maybe someone is waiting for me there or I am meant to carry out something there. Everything is growth and a step closer to remembering also connecting. So when people at times see things as a normal dream or vision they forget about it. When they actually being guided to do something big.

Love and Light as always Scribe also a big HI and a warm hug.

Originally posted by ShadowNinja
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ok I am only going to describe the hand of the suit and if you will not understand it then I am sorry. So keep up with me for now and bare in mind I am only 17.

... [explanation] ...

So please bare in mind with me I am only 17 and in no way am I Toni Stark LOL

.

Sorry to break it to you... but that explanation is no more specific than the one you've given before. In fact even though you've included more words, you've made it more vague by not describing how a single thing interacts in the system.

Anyway as far as I'm concerned this is as good a proof as any (for me anyway) that your thread is not real.

Feel free to prove me wrong at any time, though, but until then I'm honestly not going to waste a lot more of my time on a thread that is a fiction.

Hmm over the time being sense you are more wiser then me in engineering I would like to ask if you could maybe part take in this. Help me with somethings eventually if I get stuck. But its your choice and not mine so entirely up to you mate.

Absolutely, I'm willing to keep an open mind. If you're not fabricating this and your special ability/knowledge to build an Iron Man suit is real - then this sounds like the perfect way for you to reclaim your credibility, and make some progress on this "suit".

Let me know how to collaborate, and we'll see how this goes. I would suggest starting at the power source. Once that is operational everything else is trivial, as you will have unlimited funding if you can develop a working power source of this class.

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Firstly Ouch the sharp pick into the temple hurt like hell.

Secondly will be working on it when I am in New Zeland right now do not have the right time. Sorry and yes I would love if you could take part in this project.

Will give you a run down later on when will find the time.

Things at home are just chaotic as if a war hit and I am in the middle of it.

Love and Light.

ShadowNinja, Just asking if you got my U2U.
I see and feel that you are having issues as of late, and I feel your pain (as well as everyone else). Connect to the Heart and release the Golden Glow, hey what's the worse that could happen?

Keep putting out the fires, and don't let anyone push thoughts into your head. But, don't forget to turn the diamond and look at the issue (any issue) from all views.

I'm sorry your family is getting strange, but at this time it would seem the dichotomy of "good" and "evil" is getting more distinct. Look at the conflict between different mindsets in the future, if you haven't seen them already.

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Sorry, found your post a few pages back. I will try the meditation.

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I dont intend to prove anything to you, about our infinite lives, but share all I know

Fair enough. I don't intend to believe a word of anyone's story without even the most minimal evidence of it's validity.

encourage everyone to do this: drop your credos, clear your mind, and seek within, without preconditioned beliefs

Creeds don't complement every belief system on the planet. An atheist has no creed, neither do the pagans, or the spiritualists. I'm afraid you're confusing mainstream theology with the whole of human spirituality.

This is an unfortunate, but all too common, beginners mistake. A little bit more reading about the plethora of human spirituality might give you a little more insight into just what people think and believe.

We're a quite diverse species. It's a shame you cannot see that.

though Love works as a belief, and sungaze alot. Do thank the energy and thank them for any contact or downloads

What exactly does one who believes in love believe in exactly? What is it you're espousing to have faith in when you believe in love?

Love cannot be a belief. It is an emotion, a hope, a feeling, and, some might argue, a state of being. It hardly constitutes a belief though.

My friend is very interesting, I recognized him, just from some posts, didn't know who he was at that time but was filled with joy that he was in the world... ...where i knew it was, front lobal right hand side, and I nearly passed out, and had to tell my one freind to stop right now, what are you doing

So this friend just walked into your house, touched you, healed you, spoke to you, and did all these mystical things? Have anyone who can back this up and tell me that they saw a stranger walk in and do all this to you? What must your husband have thought of someone else touching and doing all these things with you? Or your children?

The frontal lobe is responsible for motor functions, memory, language, problem solving, judgment and more. If there was something done to your frontal lobe, then I can easily see why you believe in these delusions and fantasies. Anything done to the frontal lobe by a non-qualified surgeon can cause all manner of perception, judgment and logic failures.

I think I am beginning to understand your condition more and more now.

He told that friend never to do such a thing, for if it had moved even the slightest I would have died. He does all of this while writing to you

First, you wouldn't have died if something had "moved" in the frontal lobe. You'd just have been mentally retarded. Phineas Gage and numerous others have survived such lobotomies. Their motor function and reasoning skills, and memory have just been disrupted.

Are you saying your "friend" is writing to me right now? As in s/he is a split personality of you? Adding this revelation to the disruption of your frontal lobe adds another layer of understanding to your psychological condition.



This whole section about "other abductees" is a meaningless attachment to this post. I have no interest in nameless "others" who have experienced all these things that you claim. As long as they remain unamed their testimony remains invalid.

The converstation then went on to, the new plane that was coming that now he was at 5 levels of consciousness and soon would be at hundreds of thousands of levels

From 5, to 100,000 is a lot of levels to just "be at" all of a sudden. How come 5 is so danged hard, but 100,000 is so darn easy? Seems kind of fishy.

he held nothing against them, he understood that they were trying to prepare for the shift, and would perish if they didn't, and was told they could aslo go home

So, what happens if this "shift" never comes? Do you, and all your Greys and guardians and Higher Selves come out and make a formal, world-wide apology for lying and cheating so many naive and gullible humans?

Let's play Devil's Advocate and say for a second that I am right, and there are no FEMA camps, no shift, no new consciousness... Do all of you come out then and apologize for the lies and fearmongoring?

If not, how come? If you were wrong, where's your humility then?

Then they talked in a cosmic langauge and he said he couldn't express himself on such a primitive keyboard

Earlier in this very post you said he talked to me on this "primitive" keyboard. Inconsistencies are fun.

This universe is a duality, a school, in structure. The choices we make are what we get graded on. There is a Beyond. In fact, we don't really leave it truly. I'm not going to write a whole bunch more here, but you can check out my threads under my profile

So NOW there is a duality... I see. What's changed between my last time on this thread, and now, that there is a duality now?

So graded on our choices... like Karma? Getting Hindu or Buddhist on us now eh?

Prove that there is a beyond, your words are as fallible as this "primitive" keyboard.

Of course you won't write more, you have nothing else. You have no solid beliefs and theories. Only fantasies you hope are never challenged.

So sad.

The energy has changed recently, things are going to occur, and no matter what happens, I'm going to see the shift occuring in the twinkling of an eye

If it doesn't, can I get you to fomally apologize to all of ATS for misleading us?

Its all about Love

Love doesn't start a warming fire.
Love cannot cure a disease.
Love won't stop a fired bullet.
Love doesn't feed the hungry.
Love is nothing but an emotion.
Emotions are just electrical impulses.

~ Wandering Scribe

He's not a wickedly proclaimed psychic, he is having expreinces and sharing them, he has energy, but he is also searching and seeking for answers continually, in case you havn't noticed, and that is what its like waking up in this world, for those who question it all and especially for those with experiences, that leads to much questions and a core search for even more answers

How do you know I haven't questioned the stability of our reality; seeking my own disciplinary motions to understand the underlying context of the mechanisms making us all breathe and sing?

How exactly do you know that I don't know?

Oh, right. You don't. You're just making assumptions because you're scared to death that you're just like everyone else.

I know it was 2 solid years of being pushed nonstop, and reaching out nonstop, and asking many questions and getting swayed by others, seeing things one way, then a more positive way until my energy recognition started recognizing certain people who had the next step, their light activated the right expansinon of memory or direction or thought

How do you know "who's right" and "who's wrong" for certain? What if - gasp! - the people you've trusted are really the bad guys? What if you're following Emperor Palpatine, and not Obi Wan Kenobi? What if your Yoda is really Darth Maul?

He's an experiencer/seeker brave enough to not care what others think, he is hoping his experiences will help others who may be waking up, though when they connect to their Higher Selves, they're not going to have the same experiences. Not everyone has a testing ground like that

This is a horrible approach to take towards this sensitive topic:



Shadow: I've had experiences! To the internet!
* posts his experiences *

Other Person: Hmmm, this sounds like what happened to me.
* posts his experiences *
* asks Shadow to demonstrate his experiences *

Shadow: I don't have to demonstrate anything.
* ignores requests *

Other person: but if I don't know you've really had these, how do I know you'll lead me the right way?
* makes request again *

Shadow: believe me because I said so
* ignore request *



Then just repeat that. How exactly is that the right way to teach anyone anything?

His experiences remind me of others I've read about who go to this battle ground or something at night, and I am so glad I don't show up there. I would be telling them all to stop behaving like children and shining light. I tell him to set intentions before sleep to not go anywhere like that at night

So you read about someone else venting their fantasies? Do you believe everything you read?

So these "other people" say they go to some battle ground, and you believe them just because they say so?

BUT, if you went to this battleground you'd immediately be so special that you could make them all stop by saying so?

This all sounds very delusional and illogical.

~ Wandering Scribe

Oh, well that's good to know. At least it doesn't seem completely loony to you, then

If it all seemed looney-tunes to me, I wouldn't bother seeking out forums where other people like me post their experiences. What is so unfortunate about a place like this is that anything get's accepted as the Gospel truth.

If these "aliens" are behind every human spiritual encounter ever - why have I never had a visitation, yet I've explored countless religions and their religious rites - along with all manner of spiritual concepts and exercises?

For me, the reason why I feel strongly about that is because of how I'd felt at such a young age. It's not like I had watched movies that would imply things, and my family surely wasn't talking about it

This is a fair answer. One of my current students has had Christian and Kemetic prophecy and "intuition" since his birth. All manner of things, from people/animals flocking to him, to his first words being "Jesus is coming back". I can appreciate someone thinking one way because they feel inclined.

Well, why wouldn't they lend us a hand? If any of them are are good-hearted beings, I can see why they would want to let us in on a few things. And I happen to think that humans are wondrous! Honestly! I mean look at us

The question is why it all needs to be them. Sure, Scientologists can lay claim to them - the entire belief structure there is based on Aliens. But the Buddhists, the Christians, the atheist, the Hindu, the spiritualist - there's no need for aliens to be behind it. Just good ol' fashioned human beings blazing their own trail.

As you said in the quote above - you felt one way. So why couldn't the Buddha's feelings, or Jesus feelings be just as valid as yours? If you believe it's aliens because of a feeling, they're just as valid to believe it's God, or mankind because of a feeling.

Why is your feeling above being challenged, but not theirs?

I think maybe because we had our memories wiped, we lost some of our knowledge and abilities. Which would be why we would need instruction. It's a good question

I have no qualms with letting the mind run free and imagine all kinds of possibilities. But, the problem comes with proof of these things. A lack-of-evidence-to-the-contrary does not mean your assumption is correct. You need evidence our memories have been wiped for your assumption to be valid.

Do you have any? Or is this just a personal belief you hold?

No they didn't know what they were talking about. They were only about 13 years old at the time, lol. Also, I never said I won any of these debates. Usually, I was just too annoyed by them that I would give them a dirty look and walk away. Doesn't really count as winning

Darn. I've been waiting for a long, long time for someone to have evidence of Panspermic Biogensis. I suppose my quest will have to endure longer now.

You know, truthfully, how does one ever have proper "evidence" related to such a thing? But obviously there are people who have seen things. Seen visions. And a lot of them are very similar. Disasters, destruction, etc

Shadow says a meteor will crash into Earth. You can't exactly hide a meteor in the vast expanses of space. Show me the meteor.

Shadow says there will be FEMA camps, already are. Show me a pic of a FEMA camp.

Nibiru is a planet heading straight for us, according to 2012ers. It's even harder to hide a planet than it is a meteor. Show me this renegade planet hurtling towards us.

Visions and prophecy are harder to prove, which is why they should be accepted less and less. Record down the prophecies and the dates they're set to occur. Then when they happen we'll tally them up and judge the seer.

Oh, you do know for visions and prophecies to be legitimate they have to include a date, right? Saying "there will be a natural disaster" is not a prophecy or a vision. It is stating the obvious. We live on Earth, there's a natural disaster every day, almost every hour. They need dates to be visions or prophecies.

I'll have to go check out Dan Burisch. If aliens, Majestic 12, visions, predictions of natural disaster and the Illuminati are involved though, then it's going to be tough to tie it all together, since many of those topics are exclusive, and not conjoined.

The main thing I think for me is just believing in it and trusting in it. Possibly if there is doubt in you about the subject then maybe things won't be shown to you. The first experience I had, I hadn't really done anything. Only just accepted the knowledge. And the night following that, I had been trying to communicate directly with them. I asked for the communication and wound up with someone in my room. After that I've just been listening directly to what Shadow and Unity have to say. Anyone can meditate and listen to calming music but for me I believe in my Star Family with all my heart

The problem is that I am a believer. Just as you have become. I believe in the existence of extra-terrestrial beings, and inter-dimensional beings, and religious beings, and all other manner of beings. So my belief contains no doubts. Yet my belief has never lead me to an encounter with Shadow and Unity's blend of alien inter-dimensional beings.

Such is where I cross words with them. If all it takes is belief, I have that. But their aliens remain absent.

Also Scribe, it looks like you have Shadow figured out all wrong. Wickedly proclaimed psychic? He's quite humble, and really just wants to help everyone. I'd take Unity's word on this one. Something tells me she might know him a tad better than you might

The big problem is that Unity admitted someone/something had given her a type of non-surgical frontal lobe lobotomy. Which means her perception, memory, language and judgmental skills have been compromised. She may know Shadow better than I, but how much of what she knows can be trusted if her grapefruit's been damaged?

All in all, you seem like the most logical and intelligent of the big 3 here. I hope you keep up on the postings. I'd like to hear more of what you say before you jump off the logic wagon into the looney bin.

~ Scribe

[edit on 14/5/10 by Wandering Scribe]

[edit on 14/5/10 by Wandering Scribe]

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe

If it all seemed looney-tunes to me, I wouldn't bother seeking out forums where other people like me post their experiences. What is so unfortunate about a place like this is that anything get's accepted as the Gospel truth.

If these "aliens" are behind every human spiritual encounter ever - why have I never had a visitation, yet I've explored countless religions and their religious rites - along with all manner of spiritual concepts and exercises?

Lol. Well, I doubt that people are saying everything that happens is ET work. I've had spiritual experiences that very clearly weren't aliens. They were loved ones who'd passed away. Although, according to what I believe about all of this, we're all considered aliens, lol.

The question is why it all needs to be them. Sure, Scientologists can lay claim to them - the entire belief structure there is based on Aliens. But the Buddhists, the Christians, the atheist, the Hindu, the spiritualist - there's no need for aliens to be behind it. Just good ol' fashioned human beings blazing their own trail.

As you said in the quote above - you felt one way. So why couldn't the Buddha's feelings, or Jesus feelings be just as valid as yours? If you believe it's aliens because of a feeling, they're just as valid to believe it's God, or mankind because of a feeling.

Why is your feeling above being challenged, but not theirs?

Well, in this case, the reason why it's them is because of those who have memories of being created by aliens. As for the feelings related to other religions, I really have no right to say their feelings are less valid than mine. If someone feels they truly know the truth, then I wouldn't really discourage them from following their heart. I just know what I've personally felt, and can't really judge anyone else who has had intuitive feelings.

I have no qualms with letting the mind run free and imagine all kinds of possibilities. But, the problem comes with proof of these things. A lack-of-evidence-to-the-contrary does not mean your assumption is correct. You need evidence our memories have been wiped for your assumption to be valid.

Do you have any? Or is this just a personal belief you hold?

I get you. It's a personal belief and there's not really going to be any proof to back me up, until an ET goes on the record and says "Yup, it's the truth."

Darn. I've been waiting for a long, long time for someone to have evidence of Panspermic Biogensis. I suppose my quest will have to endure longer now.

Haha, I have no clue what that even means, so all you'll get from me on that is "Wha...?"

Shadow says a meteor will crash into Earth. You can't exactly hide a meteor in the vast expanses of space. Show me the meteor.

Shadow says there will be FEMA camps, already are. Show me a pic of a FEMA camp.

Nibiru is a planet heading straight for us, according to 2012ers. It's even harder to hide a planet than it is a meteor. Show me this renegade planet hurtling towards us.

Oh, you do know for visions and prophecies to be legitimate they have to include a date, right?

Firstly if a meteor would be the work of aliens, I'm not sure they'd be keeping it in plain sight. Really the point is that I wouldn't underestimate anyone. And I doubt a FEMA camp would have a readily available 360 degree tour of it, lol. Nibiru...Really, I'm not into that. Not everyone believes that.

Also, I'm sure not all prophecies will show a calendar with a date circled in red. lol. I'm teasing. But as far as I've heard there is a timeline. You might consider it broad, but considering there are many things set to happen, I have also heard they won't all happen at once.

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
The problem is that I am a believer. Just as you have become. I believe in the existence of extra-terrestrial beings, and inter-dimensional beings, and religious beings, and all other manner of beings. So my belief contains no doubts. Yet my belief has never lead me to an encounter with Shadow and Unity's blend of alien inter-dimensional beings.

Such is where I cross words with them. If all it takes is belief, I have that. But their aliens remain absent.

No, I think you have to be more specific in your belief than just thinking "I believe in aliens." Do you believe in your Higher Self and Family of Light? Do you believe you have a mission to complete here? Do you believe you can gain your memories and that you've lived many past lives?

If not, then that could be why. Because there are many who believe in aliens and want contact, but they're not going to all get that. I've also been told that in order to gain these things, it can't be for selfish purposes such as just wanting to know. I doubt you're being selfish, but you have to want the advancement of our people as well.

The big problem is that Unity admitted someone/something had given her a type of non-surgical frontal lobe lobotomy. Which means her perception, memory, language and judgmental skills have been compromised. She may know Shadow better than I, but how much of what she knows can be trusted if her grapefruit's been damaged?

This woman has spent years and years working to gain her knowledge, if I'm correct. Since there is much talk of proof, what proof do you have that "her grapefruit's been damaged"? I guess there's a whole basket of damaged fruit then, since there are many others with her ideas. Guess they all happened to turn crazy and believe in the exact same thing. I certainly will not agree with you on this and discredit what she knows, because I believe she has worked very hard to get to where she is now.

All in all, you seem like the most logical and intelligent of the big 3 here. I hope you keep up on the postings. I'd like to hear more of what you say before you jump off the logic wagon into the looney bin.

I am definitely always going to be open to answering questions and discussing things, but in no way, shape or form am I more intelligent than either of these two. I have learned a lot from them. They are very intelligent, and putting aside any belief systems, they are a wise and caring set of people. Then again, maybe I'm in the looney bin

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The big problem is that Unity admitted someone/something had given her a type of non-surgical frontal lobe lobotomy. Which means her perception, memory, language and judgmental skills have been compromised. She may know Shadow better than I, but how much of what she knows can be trusted if her grapefruit's been damaged?

I'm so glad I ignore some of your posts and wait till others post first. I do not have nerves of steel.

This was a miracle, however it was done. Well maybe there is advanced science involved, but to me, it was very appreciated. That implant was very disturbing, it caused headaches, control, my face was numb, I knew it was there. My brother who can't remember his experiences as a child with me did know he and a driving partner had two hours missing time after seeing a ufo , and he tells me he know he had one there too.

Whatever occurred enabled me to think freely and even post without oppression and control. When my friend blasted it, I had no idea what he was doing, but suddenly I was nearly passing out and demanded he stop. He said he sensed it there. He did stop.

Later, walk in friend simply laid his hands on me, though he did something else and I felt really odd, so he came back and redid. It didn't remove it, but more happened which I will not mention, but sufficient to say for some time there was no greys around that I could detect,nor my son.

It was removed by my contacts, they said they had to remove one behind my eye, in August. My friend demanded I make them identify, when I could come downstairs. It was done in my bedroom and I was not able to leave my bed for nearly 2 hours. Something wet kept flowing and sticky in my hair, and ears, and my hands were not paralyzed, I wasn't in agony, but just pain a bit, I was drifting in and out of this, a kind of altered state, but I was able to reach up and felt this complete sticky wet flow but no red, and suddenly all gone, cleaned up. And my hand no longer could move.

What bothered me was that when they came, it was 3 of them, and I know who and what was said, but had no name on the one doing it, but knew him as family, like a family member, who I loved, without any concept of who he was. There was a huge splat, and I was completely sprayed when I laid down, and to this day that sound and splat, I didn't ask for this help and I would never ask again, very very suspicious about what that was.

When I got up I went for a stale coffee and wrote to my friend he was upset and demanded I identify or he would be there. I was told J'anus instantly. That was shocking, it was the first time I was answered.

No after affects, if anything, feeling better for the first time in years. The thing about the surgery during meditation, I don't really know if its in my room, or if thats masked.

For example, there was one in December, this year, that was gynecological, and very upsetting to me, as for some unexplained reason I suddenly had to go and meditate for 3-4 hours. And I was freezing, I lay under the covers, wearing a very warm sweater or housecoat, freezing, while this awful thing was occurring that had very litte pain, but I knew what was occurring, and felt partially a procedure, but most of it was in these "visions" that I couldnt get out of or end, and the thing was, I knew, remote sensed a craft over our house, and whenever I had that feeling, when I waited at night, there was a craft appearing. It felt like a hard cold surface, not my mattress. It was not comfortable and familiar, and all the visions took place on the craft in carefully constructed scenes with this man, and I kept saying no and trying to stop them and telling them how I disapproved of this, and she said it was necessary and very important and asked me to cooperate.

Very cold and reserved couple those two. I was asked if I wanted a daughter. I said, granddaughter, yes, but no dreams of another child.

Also, he very cooly said that humans were insects, and I said something along the line of this being an insult to insectoid ets, and also, if they really felt like this, then why would they waste time on humans, since we were obviously so boring, hinting that they should move along.

I almost feel his response here was to try and get a rise out of me, for he quipped back, "Some people really like insects, and can happily spend a whole lifetime studying them"

After this I was permitted a really hot bath to warm up as I was chilled to the bone, and for a brief half hour it was normal, and then for no reason that I can understand I simply had to go back and resume the meditation.

Don't really think they necessarily take place in your bed. This couple was the Taurus, nordic appearing ones we had seen crafts from alot, OR they were greys pretending to be them, which I can't be sure of, except that they don't usually come in pairs of male/females like this, and also, the couple is cool in the contact and the kind of tests they do, often mental gymnastics, testing your emotions or reactions to various scenes or stimilus, so I kind of supsect it may have been them. I received a message, during the following day, a postcard from the female that I had a daughter.

[edit on 14-5-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by Skada


Hahaha yeh I did and I wrote you a small tip on the previous page

thanks for the support.

reply to post by LaurenVirgo

Well, I doubt that people are saying everything that happens is ET work. I've had spiritual experiences that very clearly weren't aliens. They were loved ones who'd passed away. Although, according to what I believe about all of this, we're all considered aliens

Have you paid attention to Shadow and Unity on this thread when I was here the first time? They stole every religious experience they could (chakras, meditation, the Archangel Michael, and more) and attributed it to extra-terrestrial origins.

Panspermia is, by definition, what you believe. Panspermia is the belief that life originated outside of our planet's closed system, and crash-landed here on a meteor or something similar to it millenniums ago.

Well, in this case, the reason why it's them is because of those who have memories of being created by aliens. As for the feelings related to other religions, I really have no right to say their feelings are less valid than mine

This is logical, I can appreciate and support this. If you've been birthed, raised and dropped here by aliens, that's fair enough. And if you also except there are other possibilities for other people, I like you even more.

If someone feels they truly know the truth, then I wouldn't really discourage them from following their heart. I just know what I've personally felt, and can't really judge anyone else who has had intuitive feelings

I approve of this wholly.

I get you. It's a personal belief and there's not really going to be any proof to back me up, until an ET goes on the record and says "Yup, it's the truth"

That is what I am waiting for. Not necessarily on a global scale though.

Look at this thread alone, three people have "made contact" - you in just 2 weeks - I wouldn't need them to go on live television and say so. Just come and drop me a note. You know?

If they're really in charge of everything, why is it too much to ask for them to say "Yeah, you're right, we're here and running things. Thanks for asking"?

Haha, I have no clue what that even means, so all you'll get from me on that is "Wha...?"

Panspermia is the belief that life originated somewhere else in the Universe, and crash-landed here on Earth on some kind of meteor which crashed into us.

Biogensis is the belief that life has been manufactured. As in, we're the creations of some god, or the product of some kind of cosmic magick.

Panspermic biogensis - a term I've coined - therefore, is a combination of the two. Some alien life-form created us somewhere else, and brought us here for whatever purpose they had.

Firstly if a meteor would be the work of aliens, I'm not sure they'd be keeping it in plain sight. Really the point is that I wouldn't underestimate anyone. And I doubt a FEMA camp would have a readily available 360 degree tour of it, lol. Nibiru...Really, I'm not into that. Not everyone believes that

So you're suggesting this alien race would have advanced interstellar travel and cloaking abilities? So advanced that the constant SETI radio-waves we're reverberating into the abyss of space don't somehow bounce off of their ship, or the meteor?

Again, this is a wild belief. I will however, patiently await my imminent demise.

No one needs a tour of the camp, just Google Earth it and show me it.

as far as I've heard there is a timeline. You might consider it broad, but considering there are many things set to happen, I have also heard they won't all happen at once

The problem is that no one can be considered to have actually seen something, unless they can explain it in detail, and date it. Otherwise, I'll give you all the predictions you'll need for the rest of your life. Before you die:

• There will be an unimportant president
• 25 more wars, at the least, will occur
• Every year at least 5 disasters will occur
• Seasonal differences will continue to seemingly fluctuate
• Every decade one major viral strain will have a break-out
• Approximately the entire population of Earth will die
• Approximately the entire population of the Earth will be born

Want me to make some more predictions for you? Oh wait, let me also tell you that I've seen all of that in various visions this year. And my personal extra-terrestrial guide showed me it too.

Joking aside, I do have a guide, but she's not an alien. And her prophecies have been true every time, which makes her 100% more accurate than Shadow Ninja.



I'll respond to your second message next. I just wanted to say that I enjoy talking with you. You've got enough sense and reason to make discussion worthwhile. Thank you for being cool.

~ Wandering Scribe

reply to post by LaurenVirgo

No, I think you have to be more specific in your belief than just thinking "I believe in aliens." Do you believe in your Higher Self and Family of Light? Do you believe you have a mission to complete here? Do you believe you can gain your memories and that you've lived many past lives?

Higher Self is a check. I've been developing my Higher Self (Body of Light, etc) for more than a decade now.

Family of Light, by another name. I believe in the Avatar-cum-Goddess who spared me and gave me my second chance. That's the closest to an "alien" family I've got.

I've had several missions here. I've failed and succeeded in varying degrees on all of those missions.

Past Lives (reincarnation as we call it) is a staple belief in my system of beliefs. So I do have that one for sure.

Regaining memories... I don't necessarily regain them myself, but I find the people whom I had once shared them with. And we make new memories.

If not, then that could be why. Because there are many who believe in aliens and want contact, but they're not going to all get that. I've also been told that in order to gain these things, it can't be for selfish purposes such as just wanting to know. I doubt you're being selfish, but you have to want the advancement of our people as well

I can understand some knee-jerk idiot not getting contact 'cause he's a smarmy skeptic just looking to embarrass others. It's unfortunate that those of us who are skeptical for other reasons are seemingly considered the same as them by your alien friends.

This thread is neither the time, nor place, for me to discuss the sacrificial nature of my life. But suffice it to say that "selfless" is an understatement to my disposition.

My whole point in being here is the "advancement of the people" by dispelling ignorance and seeking the truth.

This woman has spent years and years working to gain her knowledge, if I'm correct. Since there is much talk of proof, what proof do you have that "her grapefruit's been damaged"?

Read her response to me earlier where she said that not just one, but two beings worked on her frontal lobe. The first doing so incorrectly, and the second physically altering it. If you mess up the frontal lobe, you alter the aspects I mentioned. Just go learn something about the frontal lobe and realize how easy it is to alter this lobe, and how frequently psychological disorders of this lobe occur because of things like being Trepanned and lobotomies.

I wasn't trying to be rude or offensive in my original response. Frontal lobe irregularities are very, very common. And all kinds of culturues and people cause them by experimenting with the frontal lobe without proper techniques.

I guess there's a whole basket of damaged fruit then, since there are many others with her ideas. Guess they all happened to turn crazy and believe in the exact same thing. I certainly will not agree with you on this and discredit what she knows, because I believe she has worked very hard to get to where she is now

I didn't quite say this. Her ideas and beliefs are mostly borrowed or lifted from others. It's very, very easy for anyone to take the words of someone else, find importance in them, and spread a Gospel; regardless of their psychological state.

Love as an important element is a big part of Thelema and Qabala and Christianity and Hermetics. All of which significantly predate Unity.

Meditation is as old as India. India I believe is older than Unity.

Aliens are as old as Biblical times. Unless Unity is older than Jesus... well, you get the point.

I am definitely always going to be open to answering questions and discussing things, but in no way, shape or form am I more intelligent than either of these two. I have learned a lot from them. They are very intelligent, and putting aside any belief systems, they are a wise and caring set of people. Then again, maybe I'm in the looney bin

I'm glad you'll always be open to discussion. I enjoy discussions.

On the contrary, I consider you to be miles beyond Unity and Shadows scope of the world.

We can always learn something from someone lesser than us. I learned to climb trees by watching a neighborhood cat leap from limb to limb. The cat wasn't smart enough to not run under a moving car though.

Caring people don't necessarily dictate a good soul. Mother Teresa was considered wise and caring, so much so that she was made a saint. Yet, her "caring" treatment centers were really just run down hostels where the sick were taken to agonizingly die. The money donated was shipped off to the Vatican, and thousands of people died because Teresa's caring nature said suffering was essential to savior.

All in all, tread carefully near those who proclaim wisdom beyond their years, and messages of truth and caring beyond your immediate comprehension.

~ Wandering Scribe

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These sensationalist accounts are better served for writing a fiction novel about the horrors of an alien abduction mystery.

They don't serve you too well on this thread.

In fact, all they really do is show me you're in-the-know on popular culture's way of viewing extra-terrestrial encounters.

Maybe next time you shouldn't focus so much on "all the grim particulars" of alien encounters you've had. Why not put all the effort you spend detailing them materializing and visiting you at odd hours - to do disgusting tests - instead finding some evidence of their having visited you?

You said that the one identified itself when your friend demanded it do so.

What happened to such spontaneous cooperation? Are your alien friends just afraid of me, or something? Why won't they sound off like they've got a pair when I ask for their visualization?



I'm just going to be flat-out honest with you: every time you post a graphic account of aliens abducting and experimenting on you, I read it, sit for a moment at my keyboard and debate whether to respond to it at all.

Part of me hesitates every time because I know these responses encourage you to keep fabricating these accounts.

So, sooner or later I'll quit feeding your fantasies. But not tonight, tonight you get a response.

~ Wandering Scribe

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Sensationalist? Nontheless absolutely true. Thats the thing, these things are happening to real people, some of them are far worse than mine, they get graphics and wake up to terrible surgeries being performed. I have always had protection, so that is never what is felt. And the abductions from childhood, I don't want to remember the blanks between the scenes that are recalled.

With the lifelong things we, thats my family both childhood and my children, have gone through, I've been very fortunate, and horrified with what others have shared with me. If thats whats under the blanks in my memory, I don't want to know. Its actually one of the reasons for not investigating a regressionist. I toy with it off and on. I don't want to know whats under the screened memories either, like the ones I just wrote about, when something surgical is taking place, but I'm experiencing something else. The screened one is better.

I've always had some protection too, but then my experiences are not just with greys, also nordics. And the whole Vrill aspect, or negatives I find confusing. Based on some of the experiences others have shared, and the underground bases and even murders, harvesting of people, even the greys that have been involved do not seem to be that group, they're not on that level, despite the base from childhood that gave me nightmares and where I don't want to regress my memories to. That base was Vrill, it was a coalition between greys, others??? and human militia, ie. what I call nazis. In the late 60s. Yet, the greys involved with me, where not the same type as the ones that are involved with the most negative cases. And, I feel somewhat different about the overall goal, as if there is much going on that we don't know about, with a long term plan that has to do with freeing this planet. Though that could be programmed.

Even my son has memories that are of more gentle greys, and when Lowki made a humorous comment in his thread, my son leaned over and read it, and just looked surprised. He said that sounded like a grey. That was my impression too.